The Palestine thread

[Sidney]

Hamas use woman and children as human shields.The civilian death toll they are engineering is
part of a grotesque tactical play to garner international intervention(which will never happen) and to provoke a reaction from the murderously out of control Muslim world.
  Hamas have the blood of their own people on their hands.

  Israel has the right to defend herself.

Must try harder.

Next.

[seafoid]

This is self defence . Get a chair out and watch the carnage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?_r=0

[Sidney]

Family members staying together in one room to ensure nobody is left behind if the Israelis shell the building.
The level of hatred Israel has for Gaza is infathomable.

unreal

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

That is the tip of the iceberg. The comments they are coming out with on social media is beyond the pale. They are enjoying this genocide like it was a spot. Maybe that is what this is.....

I am blocking people flat out on my facebook and twitter sites. The vile replies I get to reporting on deaths is way beyond any sense of respect for humanity

Even the hasbara zombies on comment sites can't help but disguise their actual pleasure at the suffering of the people of Gaza once they get bored of constantly repeating the same stock propaganda phrases they are paid to write, over and over and over and over and over again. Internet trolling can clearly be as boring a job as any,

[seafoid]

Israel runs the occupation like a Dublin drugs gang. Anyone who dares defy the people in charge has to be destroyed.
And if it kills enough civilians they'll rise up or something and get rid of Hamas.
But don't dare say Israel kills civilians deliberately. That would be anti-Semitic.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.606315

According to Palestinian sources 11 people were killed and 25 wounded in the bombing of the Siam family house in north-west Rafah, according . Among the dead are seven children and two women. Palestinians also say that number of dead in the Abu Jama'a family compound in Khan Yunis rose to 25.

[LeoMc]

This is self defence . Get a chair out and watch the carnage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?_r=0

From the same article:

Explaining that he has also previously witnessed Palestinians cheering news of bombings that killed Israelis, Mr. Sorensen said that in a war, "this is what happens." Civilians and fighters on both sides, he said, "go through a process of dehumanizing the enemy."

I would not categorize all Israelis as being like those on that hillside there were thousands protesting against the slaughter in Tel Aviv and Haifa. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183092#.U8z1FD95Fw0

[seafoid]

This is self defence . Get a chair out and watch the carnage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?_r=0

From the same article:

Explaining that he has also previously witnessed Palestinians cheering news of bombings that killed Israelis, Mr. Sorensen said that in a war, "this is what happens." Civilians and fighters on both sides, he said, "go through a process of dehumanizing the enemy."

I would not categorize all Israelis as being like those on that hillside there were thousands protesting against the slaughter in Tel Aviv and Haifa. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183092#.U8z1FD95Fw0

So many Israelis serve in the system that is slowly strangling Gaza. I don't know how Israel is going to survive long term given how it operates. 

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/07/19/deprivation-gaza-strip/6HybezDQv6N0lGzsVWoB4N/story.html

Another way to understand the impact of the Israeli blockade is this: In 2000, UNRWA (the UN agency responsible for Palestine refugees) was feeding 80,000 people in the Gaza Strip; today it feeds over 830,000 people. Yet, UNRWA's food aid to almost half the population is now under threat as some international donors such as Canada have inexplicably defunded UNRWA or fund at levels that do not meet Gaza's burgeoning need. Without an increase in financial support to cover a $22 million shortfall, UNRWA may have to eliminate its food distributions by the end of 2014. If this happens there should be no doubt that Palestinians in Gaza will face starvation for the first time in their history, and the violence that will ensue from their deepened agony and abandonment will be calamitous.
The profound deprivation that has long defined life in Gaza is intensifying. Israel is deliberately targeting and bombing civilian infrastructure with the aim of ensuring Gaza's continued decay. Even before Israel's ground invasion, water and sewage treatment facilities in 18 different locations sustained damage, and presently, 900,000 people — half of Gaza's total population — have no access to water. Fifty percent of sewage pumping and wastewater treatment systems are no longer operational, largely affecting Northern Gaza, Gaza city and Rafah. Damaged pipelines have resulted in the mixing of sewage and water, raising the risk of water borne diseases, a serious public health hazard. Several power lines have also been disabled by bombardments, leaving 80 percent of the population with only four hours of electricity a day, and critically disrupting the delivery of basic services, especially in hospitals.

[Mike Sheehy]

Israel has the right to defend herself.

Only the intellectually challenged could think this is a valid argument for genocide.

Please dig deeper than Fox News for an angle.

What would be your response to the Hamas shelling Muppet ? Is there an appropriate, proportionate military response..? Or do you advocate that no military response at all is the appropriate response ?

[seafoid]

Israel has the right to defend herself.

Only the intellectually challenged could think this is a valid argument for genocide.

Please dig deeper than Fox News for an angle.

What would be your response to the Hamas shelling Muppet ? Is there an appropriate, proportionate military response..? Or do you advocate that no military response at all is the appropriate response ?

International law, Sheehy. Israel is insane.
The appropriate military response to the Gaza situation is to lift the siege.
If Israel doesn't and Gazan society collapses everybody around the world is going to hate Israel, with justification.
And you'll be very, very  lonely.

[Mike Sheehy]

Israel has the right to defend herself.

Only the intellectually challenged could think this is a valid argument for genocide.

Please dig deeper than Fox News for an angle.

What would be your response to the Hamas shelling Muppet ? Is there an appropriate, proportionate military response..? Or do you advocate that no military response at all is the appropriate response ?

International law, Sheehy. Israel is insane.
The appropriate military response to the Gaza situation is to lift the siege.
If Israel doesn't and Gazan society collapses everybody around the world is going to hate Israel, with justification.
And you'll be very, very  lonely.

I wasn't asking you Goebbels.

International law also applies to Hamas. The collapse of Gazan society is directly attributable to Hamas and it is a collapse fully aided and abetted  by anti-Semitic propagandists like you.

[seafoid]

Israel has the right to defend herself.

Only the intellectually challenged could think this is a valid argument for genocide.

Please dig deeper than Fox News for an angle.

What would be your response to the Hamas shelling Muppet ? Is there an appropriate, proportionate military response..? Or do you advocate that no military response at all is the appropriate response ?

International law, Sheehy. Israel is insane.
The appropriate military response to the Gaza situation is to lift the siege.
If Israel doesn't and Gazan society collapses everybody around the world is going to hate Israel, with justification.
And you'll be very, very  lonely.

I wasn't asking you Goebbels.

International law also applies to Hamas. The collapse of Gazan society is directly attributable to Hamas and it is a collapse fully aided and abetted  by anti-Semitic propagandists like you.

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You should be signed off by a psychiatrist to post on the board.

Just wait until Gaza collapses and people understand Zionism.
Israel runs the siege, not anyone else.
And blaming Hamas for a system run by Israeli Jews won't wash when it breaks down.
Zionism is a sick ideology. 

[Mike Sheehy]

You have called for the destruction of Israel. You have said that jews don't "belong" in Palestine because they wear sunglasses and eat burgers and you have this strange obsession with the price of drinks in S&M clubs in Tel aviv 

You are an absolute nutjub and you tell me I need a psychiatrist.

Priceless

[seafoid]

It's the expectation that Israel can use the sympathy derived from the Holocaust to persecute the Palestinians. And anyone who disagrees is an anti Semite.   

As if emulating the Nazis is somehow Jewish.

[Mike Sheehy]

It's the expectation that Israel can use the sympathy derived from the Holocaust to persecute the Palestinians. And anyone who disagrees is an anti Semite.   

As if emulating the Nazis is somehow Jewish.

No, it is the expectation that justifiable sympathy for the Palestinian should not be used to perpetuate a second holocaust. Apparently anyone who disagrees is a Zionist.

[seafoid]

It's the expectation that Israel can use the sympathy derived from the Holocaust to persecute the Palestinians. And anyone who disagrees is an anti Semite.   

As if emulating the Nazis is somehow Jewish.

No, it is the expectation that justifiable sympathy for the Palestinian should not be used to perpetuate a second holocaust. Apparently anyone who disagrees is a Zionist.

The idea that the current strategy is viable long term is a complete fantasy. 
Israel will just end up sanctioned and poor and the best people will leave.

Jews get on fine elsewhere without killing Palestinians for sport. 
And what Israel is doing to Gaza constitutes a plan for genocide.

[Myles Na G.]

This is self defence . Get a chair out and watch the carnage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?_r=0

It's not a whole heap different from people on this side of the planet, with little understanding of the facts or issues,  taking sides in the dispute and getting outraged on behalf of one side or the other, like spectators at a Celtic v Rangers match.