The Palestine thread

[imtommygunn]

So wullie fraser and co countered the palestinian protest in belfast today by protestin with israeli flags

[whitey]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

[muppet]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

[give her dixie]

This is what we are dealing with.......


Expel Palestinians, populate Gaza with Jews, says Knesset deputy speaker

Israel must attack Gaza even more mercilessly, expel the population and resettle the territory with Jews, the deputy speaker of Israel's parliament, the Knesset, has said.

Moshe Feiglin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's ruling Likud Party, makes the call in an article for the Israeli news website Arutz Sheva.

Feiglin demands that Israel launch attacks "throughout Gaza with the IDF's [Israeli army's] maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal."
Force Gaza population out

"After the IDF completes the 'softening' of the targets with its firepower, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations," Feiglin writes in one of several calls for outright war crimes.

Following the reconquest, Israel's army "will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrongdoing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave," Feiglin writes.

"Gaza is part of our land"

"Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever," Feiglin concludes. "Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel."

Feiglin has a long history of incitement. Last week he expelled Arab members of the Knesset who dared to criticize Israel's ongoing slaughter in Gaza and called for Israel to cut off power to dialysis patients there.

As of now, ninety percent of Gaza is without electricity, journalist Mohammed Omer reports, and most Palestinians in Gaza are getting as little as two hours of electricity per day.

Death toll climbs relentlessly

More than 100 Palestinians have been killed in the last 48 hours as Israel continues its indiscriminate attacks on Palestinians throughout the occupied Gaza Strip by land, sea and air.

By Saturday afternoon in Gaza, the thirteenth day of Israel's current bombardment and invasion of the coastal territory, 339 people, the vast majority civilians, had been killed in total and 2,500 injured.

Tens of thousands have fled their homes, primarily in the north and east of Gaza, seeking shelter from the Israeli assault in United Nations-run schools.
Genocidal demands

Feiglin's call for the destruction of the Palestinian community in Gaza has some resonance.

Just a day before Feiglin's article, Rabbi Ben Packer made a similar demand, calling the current assault "an opportunity for Israel to achieve a victory – to move the border" by conquering northern Gaza.

Packer is the director of "Heritage House," a settlement in occupied East Jerusalem that houses so-called "lone soldiers," men recruited from overseas to join the Israeli occupation forces.

Israel's former settlers in Gaza, evacuated in 2005, would be given the first opportunity to "settle in the regained territory," Packer said.

Packer, a settler from the United States and volunteer in the Israeli army, previously served as the "Rabbi on Campus" at the University of North Carolina and Duke University.

Calls like Feiglin's and Packer's for genocidal-scale violence against Palestinians are being heard with ever more frequency from Israeli leaders.

A call for genocide of the Palestinians by Ayelet Shaked, a rising star in Israel's Habeyit Hayehudi (Jewish Home) party, part of the government, received global notoriety after The Electronic Intifada translated and exposed it earlier this month.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/expel-palestinians-populate-gaza-jews-says-knesset-deputy-speaker

Link to Original article:  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326

[seafoid]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

Hamas are as scum as the mayo men who were thrown into that blowhole in downpatrick head in 1798. 1798 was stupid too. The redcoats killed a lot of people in reprisal. It would have been better to do nothing and die in the famine. Gaza should just accept apartheid and eventual ethnic cleansing. Israel is psychotic now and will never allow a palestinian state.

[JimStynes]

Has Israel got any supporters in here apart from Sheehy?

What do you consider Israel "support" as opposed to simply taking a stand against the classical anti-Semitic stance ?

If someone states that Israel is guilty of war crimes, that they should obey UN directives, that points out the Religious extremism of the settlers, that states continuously that they should withdraw to the 1967 borders, that supports military strikes (by a neutral force) against
Israel, that has called numerous times for a buffer force that will hit the Israelies as a hard as they hit the Palestinians....

If the only concession that is requested is the security of the jewish people so that they do not face a second attempt at extermination then you tell me, JimStynes, you p***k, what you mean by an Israel "supporter".

I look forward to your response...if you have the guts.

I was asking an honest question as I am only in and out of this thread and you reply with insults. You and Willie must have been getting awfully wound up at those Palestinian Peace protests today.

[muppet]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

Hamas are as scum as the mayo men who were thrown into that blowhole in downpatrick head in 1798. 1798 was stupid too. The redcoats killed a lot of people in reprisal. It would have been better to do nothing and die in the famine. Gaza should just accept apartheid and eventual ethnic cleansing. Israel is psychotic now and will never allow a palestinian state.

Not accepting apartheid does not automatically mean firing useless rockets at the ethnic cleansers.

[give her dixie]

Click on this link as it is a live stream coming out of Gaza. They are pounding the shit out of the place right now

http://www.aa.com.tr/live1/gaza-live.html

[JimStynes]

Click on this link as it is a live stream coming out of Gaza. They are pounding the shit out of the place right now

http://www.aa.com.tr/live1/gaza-live.html

Was that you in Lurgan today GHD? Saw a few Israel supporters turned up as well!!

[give her dixie]

T'was me all right. The young boy in the car playing the flute band music wasn't long speeding off when he saw a few lads heading over......

Great turnout for such short notice

[seafoid]

Muppet

Normal channels are broken. Israel doesn't recognise either international law or the geneva conventions in gaza. The americans won't do anything because of all the jewish money that sponsors the politicians. Gaza is tired of being shafted. Israel will not tolerate a Palestinian state.
If they do nothing the siege continues.
What would you do?

[whitey]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

Well I haven't seen the Israelis behead anyone for holding hands in public or who coerce preteen so to becoming suicide bombers with the promise of 35 virginia or whatever

There were 2 cease fires this week which would have given Hamas an out, but instead they choose war-fvckin losers

[seafoid]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas ar



http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

Well I haven't seen the Israelis behead anyone for holding hands in public or who coerce preteen so to becoming suicide bombers with the promise of 35 virginia or whatever

There were 2 cease fires this week which would have given Hamas an out, but instead they choose war-fvckin losers

Israel is hardly civilised, whitey, they just have more sophisticated weapons.

[muppet]

Whats so fvcking annoying about this thread is the simplistic "Israelis are bad, Palestinian are innocent victims" undertone to most anti Israeli statements.

Extreme Islam is Incompatible which western democracy and that's what Hamas are


http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-new-islamist-law-causes-fury-in-palestine-1.1309704


Hamas are murdering scumbags who DO in fact launch missiles from schools and hospitals-THAT IS A FACT.

The Israelis aren't much better in their response, but save me the perennial victim hood act

But yet somehow better?

Hamas and their terrorist predecessors in palestine are scum. They trigger a reaction they know will kill their own people. They are beneath contempt.

But to suggest the people who are so easily provoked into slaughtering the proverbial fish in a barrel are somehow better is about as twisted logic as you can get.

To my mind, the Israeli leadership are the 21st century's first real monsters.

Well I haven't seen the Israelis behead anyone for holding hands in public or who coerce preteen so to becoming suicide bombers with the promise of 35 virginia or whatever

There were 2 cease fires this week which would have given Hamas an out, but instead they choose war-fvckin losers

You are arguing for their slaughter on religious grounds?

[muppet]

Muppet

Normal channels are broken. Israel doesn't recognise either international law or the geneva conventions in gaza. The americans won't do anything because of all the jewish money that sponsors the politicians. Gaza is tired of being shafted. Israel will not tolerate a Palestinian state.
If they do nothing the siege continues.
What would you do?

If you are arguing for Hamas firing rockets, which achieves absolutely nothing strategically or militarily, but has an horrific downside, then we will have to agree to disagree. You will not persuade me that there is any merit in it.