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seafoid

#1816
July 15, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
Viral meningitis has been reported in 3 UN shelters in Gaza. Israel destroyed the sewage system the last time it killed masses of people in the strip. The UN says the zone will be unliveable by 2020. I don't think Israel has done any long term thinking on its punitive policies.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

#1819
July 15, 2014, 11:50:08 PM
I was flicking round facebook earlier to find a photo put up by a 50+ year old, supposedly educated, man posting a photo saying "i stand with israel" and also putting a comment of "they didn't start it" :-\

Staggering really some people's perceptions of the world.

theskull1

#1820
July 16, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2014, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 15, 2014, 08:16:59 PM
http://israelsoccupation.blogspot.sg/2014/06/2014-australian-documentary-exposes.html

Thanks for that, truly shocking stuff.

Shocking yet not shocking. Systematic is what it is. The power of religion to do bad in the world. One seriously fcuked up place
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

armaghniac

#1821
July 16, 2014, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 16, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
Shocking yet not shocking. Systematic is what it is. The power of religion to do bad in the world. One seriously fcuked up place

This is shocking stuff. But it is cheap shot to bring religion into it. This is an ethnic conflict,  the soldiers might well be non religious and the child too.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

moysider

#1823
July 16, 2014, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 10, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
It is hard to know which are worse, the Israeli leadership who are positively medieval in their thinking and bloodlust, or the Palestinian traitors who think launching useless rockets at Israel is a good idea.

Damning evidence today of kids on a beach being deliberately targeted from gunboats off-shore.

In the video you can see kids running along a beach after a shell has explodes. One is wearing a distinctive green t-shirt. Another shell goes off. Next thing t-shirt boy of @10 is being carried limp into an ambulance. WTF.

Now that is not a war crime - there is no war. That is just murder. Israel says that they will hold an investigation. What a joke. It s simple ethnic cleansing. Yeah Hamas give them an excuse and boy do they take it. There will be a ceasefire but these hostilities will drive more Palistinians out. The next bouts will drive more out until the area is cleansed. Targeting the kids is the oldest trick in the book. Not only do you take out a potential adversary 10 years down the road you also take out all the potential kids and grandkids etc. they would have. Not only is it murder, it is planned and systematic. And they will continue to get away with it because of their own dreadful experiences in Europe ( which leaves them beyond reproach to an extent) and because the no US administration can afford to reel them in.

93-DY-SAM

#1824
July 16, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
Absolutely sickening and heart breaking stuff on the news earlier tonight. What's happening in Gaza and the West Bank is a disgrace. How is this going unchallenged in wider political circles? The loss of any life in this is awful but when it's vastly one sided and made up of a considerable number of children it's completely unacceptable.

moysider

#1825
July 17, 2014, 01:29:03 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 16, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
Absolutely sickening and heart breaking stuff on the news earlier tonight. What's happening in Gaza and the West Bank is a disgrace. How is this going unchallenged in wider political circles? The loss of any life in this is awful but when it's vastly one sided and made up of a considerable number of children it's completely unacceptable.

There are US carriers in the Med. that would have been aware/monitoring  that child-shoot earlier. The killers will be the heroes in the tradition of Begin, Moshe Dayan, Sharon and now Netanyahu ( who was a genuine brave war hero in his youth but has no choice now but to put a face on this killing of children)

The reality is unfortunately that the only way that the State of Israel can exist is by this type of campaign and being ahead as regards firepower. Talks of peace is a joke.

seafoid

#1826
July 17, 2014, 09:34:52 AM
Quote from: moysider on July 17, 2014, 01:29:03 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 16, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
Absolutely sickening and heart breaking stuff on the news earlier tonight. What's happening in Gaza and the West Bank is a disgrace. How is this going unchallenged in wider political circles? The loss of any life in this is awful but when it's vastly one sided and made up of a considerable number of children it's completely unacceptable.

There are US carriers in the Med. that would have been aware/monitoring  that child-shoot earlier. The killers will be the heroes in the tradition of Begin, Moshe Dayan, Sharon and now Netanyahu ( who was a genuine brave war hero in his youth but has no choice now but to put a face on this killing of children)

The reality is unfortunately that the only way that the State of Israel can exist is by this type of campaign and being ahead as regards firepower. Talks of peace is a joke.
Netanyahu's brother was the hero, Moysider. He was killed rescuing hostages at Entebbe . Netanyahu is a mouth and an unreformable bigot.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

#1827
July 17, 2014, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 16, 2014, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 16, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
Shocking yet not shocking. Systematic is what it is. The power of religion to do bad in the world. One seriously fcuked up place

This is shocking stuff. But it is cheap shot to bring religion into it. This is an ethnic conflict,  the soldiers might well be non religious and the child too.

You don't think religion has anything to do with it? How does an ethnic conflict start?

Anyways its fecking shocking and it seems the more the Israeli's do the less is done by their main backers. The dimwits can't see the knock on effect its having with hatred shown to American's by various terrorist groups
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

#1828
July 17, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
Here's Netanyahu age 28 explaining his personal philosophy. He became prime minister and implemented it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvK01XAvF8

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.603599
"Day after day, month after month, throughout the years of his government, Netanyahu has never missed an opportunity to speak of Palestinians as monsters, lacking morals and infinitely brutal. Not a week has gone by without him frightening us with warnings that they are rising up against us to murder us. So we cannot talk with them about an agreement, about peace, about life, because they are simply inhuman, they're not human beings. "

It's so easy to kill monsters . And so enjoyable.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

#1829
July 17, 2014, 12:16:40 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 16, 2014, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 10, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
It is hard to know which are worse, the Israeli leadership who are positively medieval in their thinking and bloodlust, or the Palestinian traitors who think launching useless rockets at Israel is a good idea.

Damning evidence today of kids on a beach being deliberately targeted from gunboats off-shore.

In the video you can see kids running along a beach after a shell has explodes. One is wearing a distinctive green t-shirt. Another shell goes off. Next thing t-shirt boy of @10 is being carried limp into an ambulance. WTF.

Now that is not a war crime - there is no war. That is just murder. Israel says that they will hold an investigation. What a joke. It s simple ethnic cleansing. Yeah Hamas give them an excuse and boy do they take it. There will be a ceasefire but these hostilities will drive more Palistinians out. The next bouts will drive more out until the area is cleansed. Targeting the kids is the oldest trick in the book. Not only do you take out a potential adversary 10 years down the road you also take out all the potential kids and grandkids etc. they would have. Not only is it murder, it is planned and systematic. And they will continue to get away with it because of their own dreadful experiences in Europe ( which leaves them beyond reproach to an extent) and because the no US administration can afford to reel them in.

Why don't the European Union or the European powers step in ? The only thing that will stop escalations like this for an external force with a bigger stick than the Israelies to step in and keep the peace. If its not going to be the US then who will it be ?

Why do Europeans feel they have no obligations to solve this problem ? and I mean real obligations not simply wailing about what the US should do.

The state of Israel probably would not exist were it not for the extreme anti-Semitism that came to ahead with the holocaust in Europe. The map of the middle east was drawn by European powers. Europe has a debt to pay yet they seem oblivious to their role in all of this.





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