The Palestine thread

[Ball DeBeaver]

The glaringly obvious difference is that Israel does not go out of it's way to kill civilians. Yes they have killed civilians, and that is a tragedy, but civilians are not the target. When Israel finds that soldiers have deliberately targeted or killed civilians, then those soldiers are brought to justice. They don't get any wage, never mind one that's four times that of a policeman.




Palestinians deliberately target Israeli civilians. No if's but's and's or maybe's. That's murder, every single time, not just the odd mistake. Then they get rewarded for it. Sickos.

Read your post again. The disproportionate amount of dead civilian Palestinians is either down to Israel not going out of their way to kill them, or rogue soldiers, who are brought to justice. This makes it ok.

However the disproportionately small number of casualties on the other side is 'no if's (sic) but's (sic) and's (sic) or maybe's (sic)' is 'Palestinians deliberately targeting Israeli civilians'.

There is a hell of a difference between deliberately killing someone who has done you no harm, and killing someone by mistake while trying to target someone that had attacked you. No matter what the numbers are.

[muppet]

There is a hell of a difference between deliberately killing someone who has done you no harm, and killing someone by mistake while trying to target someone that had attacked you. No matter what the numbers are.

If you blow up a building, you are deliberately killing EVERYONE in it. This applies not matter where you are from or how twisted your ideology.

[seafoid]

The glaringly obvious difference is that Israel does not go out of it's way to kill civilians. Yes they have killed civilians, and that is a tragedy, but civilians are not the target. When Israel finds that soldiers have deliberately targeted or killed civilians, then those soldiers are brought to justice. They don't get any wage, never mind one that's four times that of a policeman.




Palestinians deliberately target Israeli civilians. No if's but's and's or maybe's. That's murder, every single time, not just the odd mistake. Then they get rewarded for it. Sickos.

Read your post again. The disproportionate amount of dead civilian Palestinians is either down to Israel not going out of their way to kill them, or rogue soldiers, who are brought to justice. This makes it ok.

However the disproportionately small number of casualties on the other side is 'no if's (sic) but's (sic) and's (sic) or maybe's (sic)' is 'Palestinians deliberately targeting Israeli civilians'.

There is a hell of a difference between deliberately killing someone who has done you no harm, and killing someone by mistake while trying to target someone that had attacked you. No matter what the numbers are.

That argument is bollocks. Shoot to kill does what it says on the tin. IDF soldiers are taught that Palestinians are vermin and act accordingly. IDF discipline is a joke. Some Jew says Israel does not target civlilians.  The number of kids shot in the head says otherwise. Zionism is a deluded ideology with no respect for human rights.

[give her dixie]

Teachers Union of Ireland calls for Academic Boycott of Israel in unanimous vote; first academic union in Europe to do so


At its Annual Congress on Thursday 4th April 2013, the Teachers' Union of Ireland (TUI) became the first academic union in Europe to endorse the Palestinian call for an academic boycott of Israel. The motion, which refers to Israel as an "apartheid state", calls for "all members to cease all cultural and academic collaboration with Israel, including the exchange of scientists, students and academic personalities, as well as all cooperation in research programmes" was passed by a unanimous vote during today's morning session.

The motion further calls on the Irish Congress of Trade Unions to "step up its campaign for boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against the apartheid state of Israel until it lifts its illegal siege of Gaza and its illegal occupation of the West Bank, and agrees to abide by International law and all UN Resolutions against it", and on the TUI to conduct an awareness campaign amongst members on the need for BDS. The motion was a composite motion proposed by the TUI Executive Committee and TUI Dublin Colleges Branch. It was presented by Jim Roche, a lecturer in the DIT School of Architecture and member of the TUI Dublin Colleges Union branch, and seconded by Gerry Quinn, Vice President of the TUI.

Speaking after the successful passage of the motion, Jim Roche said: "I am very pleased that this motion was passed with such support by TUI members, especially coming the day after Israeli occupation forces shot and killed two Palestinian teenagers in the West Bank yesterday. BDS is a noble non-violent method of resisting Israeli militarism, occupation and apartheid, and there is no question that Israel is implementing apartheid policies against the Palestinians. Indeed, many veterans of the anti-apartheid struggle in South Africa have said that it's worse than what was experienced there."

Mr. Roche pointed to the desperate situation of Palestinian education under occupation saying that: "Palestinians are struggling for the right to education under extremely difficult conditions. They are eager for it, as shown by the large numbers of students in third level education inside and outside the occupied Palestinian territories. Education has always been a target of the Israeli occupation, seeing forced closures of universities, disruption under checkpoint, closure and curfew regimes, and arrests, beatings and killing of both students and teachers. Sometimes, such as during the 2008-09 attack on Gaza, educational institutions have been militarily attacked. In fact I have just returned from a solidarity visit to Gaza where I had the opportunity to hear first-hand from Palestinian educators and students about their difficulties. The unanimous passage of this motion that shows that the Palestinian struggle for freedom, of which academic freedom is a key part, resonates with TUI members and sends a strong message of solidarity to their counterparts in Palestine"

Mr. Roche concluded: "We proposed this motion as we believe that, as with South Africa, the trade union movement has a vital role to play in helping apply pressure to end Israeli apartheid and occupation. I am proud that the TUI has taken a clear stand, and now support a full academic boycott of Israel in line with the Palestinian call for BDS".

http://www.ipsc.ie/press-releases/teachers-union-of-ireland-calls-for-academic-boycott-of-israel-in-unanimous-vote-first-academic-union-in-europe-to-do-so

[Ball DeBeaver]

The glaringly obvious difference is that Israel does not go out of it's way to kill civilians. Yes they have killed civilians, and that is a tragedy, but civilians are not the target. When Israel finds that soldiers have deliberately targeted or killed civilians, then those soldiers are brought to justice. They don't get any wage, never mind one that's four times that of a policeman.




Palestinians deliberately target Israeli civilians. No if's but's and's or maybe's. That's murder, every single time, not just the odd mistake. Then they get rewarded for it. Sickos.

Read your post again. The disproportionate amount of dead civilian Palestinians is either down to Israel not going out of their way to kill them, or rogue soldiers, who are brought to justice. This makes it ok.

However the disproportionately small number of casualties on the other side is 'no if's (sic) but's (sic) and's (sic) or maybe's (sic)' is 'Palestinians deliberately targeting Israeli civilians'.

There is a hell of a difference between deliberately killing someone who has done you no harm, and killing someone by mistake while trying to target someone that had attacked you. No matter what the numbers are.

That argument is bollocks. Shoot to kill does what it says on the tin. IDF soldiers are taught that Palestinians are vermin and act accordingly. IDF discipline is a joke. Some Jew says Israel does not target civlilians.  The number of kids shot in the head says otherwise. Zionism is a deluded ideology with no respect for human rights.

Have you ever seen what palestinian kids are taught? Hamas actually have schools in terrorism for kids of primary school age.

INDOCTRINATING MUSLIM CHILDREN TO HATE JEWS

The Palestinian Authority (PA) set up its own educational system in 1994, shortly after the Oslo Accords had been signed (in September 1993).  Prior to the Six Day War (June 1967), the schools of the West Bank and Gaza Strip used Jordanian and Egyptian textbooks, which the Israeli government censored after achieving sovereignty over those territories, due to the extreme anti-Israel and anti-Jewish language of these texts.  However, in 1994 the PA's new Ministry of Education reintroduced the uncensored Jordanian and Egyptian texts, full of belligerent and anti-Semitic expressions.  In response to international criticism, the Ministry undertook the creation of a new set of textbooks, gradually phasing them in from kindergarten through high school, while slowly phasing out the objectionable Jordanian and Egyptian texts.

Much has been written to expose, or to defend, the Palestinian Authority's new textbooks.  Critics accuse the PA of misusing public funds from donor nations to support hate-education; of violating international legal norms with the virulence of that education; of inflicting catastrophic psychological damage on young children; and of preparing the next generation for more hatred, more terrorism, more war. Critics acknowledge that the new textbooks are an improvement over their predecessors. But the books still contain misleading, inaccurate, biased, selective and distorted history; they contain confusing and inaccurate maps that show "Palestine" as all of Israel,[ii] with Israeli cities like Tel Aviv replaced by Arab towns; and they exclude almost all of Jewish history from discussion about the Middle East. This biased education seems to have the goal of raising a generation of Palestinian children who will strive to carry on the terror war if their parents do not achieve victory in their own lifetimes.[iii]

Defensive assessments of these new textbooks assert the polar opposite,[iv] arguing that the new textbooks are fine, that the detractors are misled or misdirected by right-wing Zionist prejudices, and that the PA should be congratulated on the way that its new Education Ministry has handled the difficult job of teaching Palestinian nationhood and history while under siege.

Interestingly, some of these very supportive reports, perhaps inadvertently, validate some of the negative assessments. Professor Nathan Brown, in a generally very positive assessment of the PA textbooks, notes that concepts of civil behavior such as peace, tolerance, and dialogue are important themes, but there is "not a single reference to tolerating Jews or Israelis." PA textbooks contain lessons that value peace, pluralism, forgiveness, integrity, and tolerance in historical and present-day contexts; but there are "no references...to these values regarding Jews, Judaism, or the state of Israel."  In short, PA textbooks continue to "...do little to support peace and avoid sensitive issues connected with peace."[v]

The Israel/Palestine Center for Research and information (IPCRI) offers perhaps the most dispassionate, comprehensive and detailed examination of the PA textbooks.  On the basis of its in-depth analysis of the entire sequence of textbooks as introduced into classroom use over the past 15 years, the IPCRI studies discern a clear pattern.  The PA textbooks started out overtly anti-Israel with skewed and falsified history, incitement to violence, and the exaltation of martyrdom.  Over the years they have been moderated, with the most vitriolic hate-teach expunged; but they still reflect some bias and imbalance.

It seems plausible to suggest that the textbooks were cleaned up under international pressure: U.S. threats from to defund the PA, reports such as those coming from the UK's Taxpayers' Alliance [vi] urging that no UK money be used to fund "hate education," and European Union threats to cut aid.  But the desire to imprint on the next generation the need to continue the terror war against Israel is still very much alive; and that brings us to two additional aspects of PA education that must be explored. 

First, educators acknowledge that much teaching occurs beyond the textbooks and outside of the classroom. Under the leadership of the PA, incitement and hate-teach occur in the classrooms and on TV and radio.

Classroom incitement has been thoroughly documented[vii], as has hate-teach and hate-preach on PA TV and radio, where Jews and Israelis are represented as demonic figures. And the need to wipe Israel off the map is a frequent theme in the eulogies of suicide bombers, martyrs whose deaths in terror attacks intending mass murder endear them to Allah.  The goal seems to be to create a seething, raging population of young people far more interested in wiping Israel off the earth's face than in achieving peaceful coexistence.[viii]

PA and Hamas television and radio promotes these hateful values in programs that are produced for children of all ages, from pre-school through high school. For example, a Hamas weekly program starred a Palestinian version of Mickey Mouse, Farfur, who told children to pray until there was "world leadership under Islamic leadership" and in the meantime to oppose the "oppressive invading Zionist occupation." The Farfar character was ultimately beaten to death by an enraged Israeli "settler," and was replaced by an intrepid young bee who conveyed the same message to the preschool viewers. Similar messages are encouraged in the classroom with supplementary material and teacher-guided self-expression that encourage martyrdom and glorify terrorism and terrorists.

So while defenders point out the improvements in the textbooks, they ignore the fact that incitement and hatred and martyrdom are still very much a part of the education process for Palestinian children from early childhood onward.

Second, the role of Hamas in West Bank education is generally unnoticed, but is crucial for an understanding of the impact of PA education on Arab youth.  Since 2007 Hamas has shared power with Fatah in the West Bank, and the coalition agreement of 2006 puts Hamas in control of the Ministry of Education.  Over the last few years, the Minister of Education has moved Hamas loyalists into key positions in the education system. The Hamas teachers' union includes some 18,000 teachers in West Bank private and public schools. As of 2011, the latest textbooks clearly demonstrated Hamas influence.[ix]

New textbooks may appear more moderate, but the classroom environment, the old hate-filled textbooks, TV, radio and the Hamas stranglehold on the Education Ministry all promise more Jew-hatred, more Israel-hatred, and endless exhortation to children's suicidal martyrdom. Hamas uses its own children as political pawns; they are encouraged to participate in violent demonstrations, taught the virtues of mass murder, and exhorted to die a martyr's death. All this is done in clear violation of the Geneva Convention.

Do the Palestinian Authority textbooks inspire children to mass murder and suicidal martyrdom?  The accurate answer right now may be: not as much as they used to. But if Hamas has its way, it will not be long before they do again. Meanwhile, other resources do exactly that, in the Palestinian classroom, media, and society.

The text above is adapted from "Child Abuse As Public Policy in the Palestinian Authority," by David Meir-Levi (September 13, 2011).

[muppet]

That is the nature of injustice BDB.

Inflict it brutally and expect some negative feedback.

[Ball DeBeaver]

That is the nature of injustice BDB.

Inflict it brutally and expect some negative feedback.

Ahhhh, that's all right then. It's just "negative feedback." Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[seafoid]

You mean the system that pays convicted child murderers more than policemen

There are other child killers, who have killed a lot more, and who are paid a hell of a lot more. But you are completely blind to the disproportionate death toll between the two.

You are blind to who the targets are between the two. I have yet to hear about Israel paying convicted murderers any wage.

Do IDF soldiers work for nothing? It is hilarious that jews in uniform who kill can cite war but any palestinian who kills a jew becomes a murderer. Make up your mind. And when is the last time an israeli death squad killed a jew for a crime committed?

[seafoid]

That hamas education link is bullshit . Israeli pr is built on the notion that the palestinians are savages.

[Ball DeBeaver]

You mean the system that pays convicted child murderers more than policemen

There are other child killers, who have killed a lot more, and who are paid a hell of a lot more. But you are completely blind to the disproportionate death toll between the two.

You are blind to who the targets are between the two. I have yet to hear about Israel paying convicted murderers any wage.

Do IDF soldiers work for nothing? It is hilarious that jews in uniform who kill can cite war but any palestinian who kills a jew becomes a murderer. Make up your mind. And when is the last time an israeli death squad killed a jew for a crime committed?

If the palestinians were to attack an IDF target and mistakenly kill a civilian in crossfire or whatever, then they would have a defence against a charge of murder.
How many palestinians have PA/Hamas convicted for killing Israeli civilians? I'll give you a clue, it's less than one.

[Itchy]

Suicide bombings stopped because of better security not because hamas developed morals. If they had morals they wouldn't be firing missiles into civilian areas, would they?

suicide bombing stopped because of a number of factors . Mass peaceful demos are what israel  fears most since it has zero moral legitimacy . Israel needs the rockets .

So hamas are just doing Israel a favour by targeting civilians. You're the worst type of friend Palestinians need.

[muppet]

That is the nature of injustice BDB.

Inflict it brutally and expect some negative feedback.

Ahhhh, that's all right then. It's just "negative feedback." Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Yip. It isn't even an eye for an eye.

[seafoid]

Suicide bombings stopped because of better security not because hamas developed morals. If they had morals they wouldn't be firing missiles into civilian areas, would they?

suicide bombing stopped because of a number of factors . Mass peaceful demos are what israel  fears most since it has zero moral legitimacy . Israel needs the rockets .

So hamas are just doing Israel a favour by targeting civilians. You're the worst type of friend Palestinians need.

Look at how israel justifies every attack on Gaza , Itchy. It is always about rockets. It always follows an Israeli media campaign. It is all a game for Israel. Anyway if there were no rockets nothing would change. Israel wants all of the land. Has done since 1948.

[Ball DeBeaver]

That hamas education link is bullshit . Israeli pr is built on the notion that the palestinians are savages.

Oh OK then. How many other links would you like?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=etDb5tXPawc

"Palestinian" children taught to hate Jews and Christians, PA TV rebroadcasts: Christians and Jews are "inferior" and "despised" "Our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail"


PA children taught to hate
Jews and Christians


PA TV rebroadcasts:
Christians and Jews are "inferior" and "despised"
"Our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail"


by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik, PMW

Palestinian Authority TV chose to rebroadcast a program featuring a little girl reciting a hate poem targeting Jews and Christians as "inferior and smaller, more cowardly and despised." It was broadcast in May and again this month.

In addition, Palestinian Media Watch reported last month that in April, PA TV broadcast a young girl reciting a poem that included the words: "Our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail." One month later, PA TV broadcast an even younger girl reciting the poem with the same hate speech, adding that the child had already recited it at the opening of a Palestinian exhibition of educational tools.

Click to view latest broadcast of "Satan with a tail"-poem
Click to view first broadcast of "Satan with a tail"-poem

Palestinian Media Watch has documented that hate speech and demonization of Israel and Jews is common in the PA and the structures under its control.

The following are the transcripts of the poems recited on PA TV:


Jews and Christians as "inferior and smaller, more cowardly and despised"


PA TV host: "You are going to recite a poem, which also teaches us responsibility and belonging."
Girl: "... The occupier stole my land and my grandfathers' land...
Where is your sword, Khaled (Arab warrior)?
Where is your courage, Saladin (Muslim conqueror)?
But no one answered me.
Where is my weapon? I found it - a stone. I took it and threw it at the enemies of destiny. I taught the world that the Muslim in the name of Allah cannot be defeated...
They challenge us with the White House, and we challenge them with the [Islamic] awakening and the Kaaba [in Mecca]. They aren't stronger than Khosrau and Caesar (rulers of Persian and Byzantine Empires).
They [Christians and Jews] are inferior and smaller, more cowardly and despised. They are remnants of the [Christian] crusaders and Khaibar (i.e., Jewish village destroyed by Muslims in 629)...
Oh Muslims of the world: Awaken, you have slept too long.
Your fathers and your sons are being massacred, your Al-Aqsa [Mosque] is defiled and destroyed."
Host: "Bravo! Applause for our friend Lara."

[PA TV (Fatah), May 11 and June 2, 2012]

"Our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail." (1)


Host: "Lina, how did you participate in the exhibition [of educational tools]?"
Lina: "I recited a poem."
Host: "A poem."
Co-host: "Lina opened the exhibition."
Lina: "When I was young, I was taught that Arabness is my honor...
and that our lands extend from one end to the other,
and that our wars were for the Al-Aqsa Mosque,
and that our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail..."

[PA TV (Fatah), May 8, 2012]


"Our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail." (2)


Host: "Laila, what do you want to recite next?"
Laila: "When I was young I was taught that Arabness is my honor...
and that our lands extend from one end to the other,
and that our wars were for the Al-Aqsa Mosque,
and that our enemy, Zion, is Satan with a tail...
Our division is by your hands [Arab rulers]. May your hands be cut off.
We are fed up with our division, while all people are uniting."
Host: "Bravo, bravo, bravo."

[PA TV (Fatah), April 7, 2012]

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Teaching Hatred of Israel and Jews in the New Palestinian Authority Schoolbooks
Itamar Marcus

This paper was an annexe to a submission made to the UK Parliament's Select Defence Committee.

One of the most meaningful gauges of the integrity of a peace process and its likelihood for success is the degree to which the peace partners educate towards peace.

It is for this reason that the entire Palestinian Authority (PA) education apparatus, both formal and informal, has been such a dismal disappointment. Instead of seizing the opportunity to educate the future generations to live with Israel in peace, the PA has done everything in its power to teach hatred to young minds.

To conceal this, the Palestinian Authority has been spreading two falsehoods about the schoolbooks that have unfortunately succeeded in deflecting international pressure for change.

PA Foreign Minister Nebil Shaath recently answered complaints about the schoolbooks, saying that the PA has spent five years rewriting the books, implying that the problems have been eliminated. Then he added that Israel used the same old Jordanian books for educating the local Arab population for 30 years, and therefore has no valid complaint against the PA. Many European governments have come to the PA's defense, citing these arguments.

The first truth about the PA schoolbooks is that both new and old include anti-Semitic messages, de-legitimize Israel's existence and incite to hatred and violence. Anti Semitism, for example, is found openly in the new 6th grade book "Reading the Koran", as children read about Allah's warning to the Jews that because of their evil Allah will kill them:

"...Oh you who are Jews... long for death if you are truthful... for the death from which you flee, that will surely overtake you... "
In other sections, they learn of Jews being expelled from their homes by Allah, and in another Jews are said to be like donkeys:

"Those [Jews] who were charged with the Torah, but did not observe it, are like a donkey carrying books... " [Reading the Koran, grade 6. p.20, 23, 78].
This religious-based anti-Semitism is the most dangerous, as children are taught that hating Jews is God's choice. And while not intending any criticizing of Islam, it is very grave that although Islam has positive traditions regarding Jews, the PA educators selected only hateful religious traditions for inclusion in their schoolbooks.

The new PA schoolbooks teach that Israel has no right to exist, de-legitimizing Israel as a foreign occupier, like colonial Britain.

"Colonialism: Palestine faced the British occupation after the First World War in 1917, and the Israeli occupation in 1948" [National Education, sixth grade, p. 16].
Since all of Israel is taught to be "occupied territory", all of Israel's cities, regions and natural resources are taught to be part of "Palestine". For example:

"Among the famous rocks of southern Palestine are the rocks of Beersheba and the Negev," and "Palestine's Water Sources - ... The most important is the Sea of Galilee." [Our Beautiful Language, grade 6, Part A, p. 64, National Education, sixth grade, pp. 9-10]
Although, the Negev, Beersheba and the Sea of Galilee are part of the State of Israel since its creation in 1948 PA children are taught these are "Palestine". Continuing this ideology a book is cited dedicated to

"...Palestinians, so that they would remember their stolen homeland and work for its salvation..." and it is referring, not to the disputed territories, but all of Israel [Our Beautiful Language, sixth grade, Part A, p. 112].
Educating children not to recognize Israel's existence is cemented through tens of maps in the schoolbooks in which Palestine encompass all of Israel. Israel does not exist on any map, within any borders. The PA defense of its schoolbook map -- that since there are no final borders the map is not portraying modern Palestine but Mandatory Palestine -- is an insult to our intelligence. Are we expected to believe that when Palestinian children see the map called "Palestine" in all their schoolbooks, they imagine Britain a half a century ago? And when Beersheba is called "Palestine", the children are picturing Biblical history?

Another new book teaches what must be done for "occupied Palestine" and the stolen homeland:

"Islam encourages this [love of homeland] and established the defense of it as an obligatory commandment for every Muslim if even a centimeter of his land is stolen. I, a Palestinian Muslim, love my country Palestine..." [Islamic Education, sixth grade, Part A, p. 68]
The complete and total message Palestinian children are taught is that Jews, according to Allah, are like "donkeys"; Israel is a colonial occupier who stole their land; the cities, lakes and deserts of Israel are "occupied Palestine"; and they, the children, have an obligation to liberate it even if a centimeter is stolen.

All the above messages are found in new schoolbooks written and published by the PA since 2000. The first claim, that new PA books have fixed the problems, is thus flagrantly untrue.

However, half of the books still in use by the PA schools are books they republish under the symbol of their own Ministry of Education, that were written by Jordan. These books include the following hate promotion:

"One must beware of the Jews, for they are treacherous and disloyal." [Islamic Education for Ninth Grade p. 79, these and below from CMIP report]

"I learn from this lesson: I believe that the Jews are the enemies of the Prophets and the believers."[Islamic Education, Part Two, for Fourth Grade p. 67]

"Remember: The final and inevitable result will be the victory of the Muslims over the Jews."[Our Arabic Language for Fifth Grade p. 67]

"The clearest examples of racist belief and racial discrimination in the world are Nazism and Zionism. "[The New History of the Arabs and the World, p. 123]

The continued inclusion of these hate teachings in the PA school system, is inexcusable. The PA justification that they were written by Jordan is of no importance. The child learning that "Jews are the enemies of the Prophets and the believers" learns that hatred of Jews is God's will, regardless of who the writer was.

The second PA claim, that Israel used the same old books is a falsehood. Indeed, Israel did use Jordanian books to educate the local Arab population. However, Israel reprinted the books without the hate education. In fact, Jordan registered a complaint to the UN charging that Israel's changing the schoolbooks was a violation of international law, but the UN checked what Israel had done and approved it. The PA has put back into the old Jordanian books all the hate education that Israel had removed.

Moreover, as early as three years ago, foreign governments offered money to the PA to reprint these old books without the hateful material. The PA turned down the money and refused to reprint them using a variety of arguments. These hateful Jordanian books are republished today, unedited by the PA by choice, and the PA must stop passing responsibility onto others for the hate content.

Finally, it should be stressed that all the new books cited here were written during the most optimistic periods of the peace process, before the violence began in September 2000. They are not a reflection of the war, but the hatred they have taught, is a paramount contributing factor to the war.

The PA is planting the seeds of the next war in their youth, and it is incumbent upon those European governments who give political and financial support to the PA, to demand the immediate expunging of all hate material from PA schoolbooks. Indeed, the simple step of conditioning all aid to the Palestinians on the elimination of hatred from their schoolbooks would be one of the most important steps that could be taken to promote peace in the Middle East today.


http://www.eufunding.org.uk/Textbooks/Marcus.html

[Ball DeBeaver]

Suicide bombings stopped because of better security not because hamas developed morals. If they had morals they wouldn't be firing missiles into civilian areas, would they?

suicide bombing stopped because of a number of factors . Mass peaceful demos are what israel  fears most since it has zero moral legitimacy . Israel needs the rockets .

So hamas are just doing Israel a favour by targeting civilians. You're the worst type of friend Palestinians need.

Look at how israel justifies every attack on Gaza , Itchy. It is always about rockets. It always follows an Israeli media campaign. It is all a game for Israel. Anyway if there were no rockets nothing would change. Israel wants all of the land. Has done since 1948.

Have you seen the PA text books that show palestine as all the land between the sea and Jordan? Who wants all the land?


Palestinians hid true intentions from Obama




Tuesday, April 02, 2013 |  Israel Today Staff   


In a telling example of just how genuine, or, rather, how false, Israel's peace partners in the Palestinian Authority are, a monument that replaces the entirety of the land of Israel with a State of Palestine was hastily removed from Bethlehem before US President Barack Obama visited a little over a week ago.

Obama had gone to Bethlehem ostensibly to pray for peace at the birthplace of Jesus.

The offending monument was replaced with a statue of a dove, giving the impression that the Palestinian Authority, too, wants nothing but peace with its neighbors.

But the temporarily replaced monument tells the truth. The Palestinian Authority ultimately desires the removal of Israel from the map of the Middle East.

The monument, dubbed "The State Monument," commemorates last November's successul bid for non-member state status at the UN and "the outbreak of the glorious revolution," a reference to the first PLO terrorist attack against Israel in 1965.

The monument switch was revealed by Palestinian Media Watch, which cited a Palestinian newspaper report showing that local Bethlehem residents were not pleased by what they saw as a cowardly ploy to avoid upsetting Obama.

This was not an isolated incident. Those familiar with the Middle East conflict will already know that Palestinian and other Arab leaders regularly use very moderate sounding rhetoric when referring to Israel in English, but then turn around and say something completely opposite to their own people in Arabic.

Likewise, Palestinian school textbooks continue to erase the State of Israel from all maps, a violation of peace terms that Obama and many other Western leaders have repeatedly called out, to no avail.


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