The State Of Gaelic Football

Started by ONeill, March 28, 2015, 10:00:31 PM

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muppet

Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

That is easy.

The referee will bring the oldest member of his own club, get him to wear a green jacket and watch the game through a giant, Waterford made, magnifying glass. Anytime time a point is scored from outside the 40 metre line this official will, as dramatically as possible, wave two fingers at the referee. The ref will then acknowledge that two points have been scored, instead of one, by waving two fingers at both benches.
MWWSI 2017

BluestackBoy

Quote from: INDIANA on April 17, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Are you from the North?

What's that got to do with anything?
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

Jinxy

Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Hawkeye.
Seriously, we're not talking about tiny margins here, it's pretty obvious where someone is relative to the 45m line when they kick a ball, for example.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

BluestackBoy

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Hawkeye.
All very well for Croke Park, not much use anywhere else.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

BennyHarp

#409
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 18, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 17, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Are you from the North?

What's that got to do with anything?

He's got loads of friends who are from the North, he probably just wants to ask if you know any of them!
That was never a square ball!!

BluestackBoy

Quote from: BennyHarp on April 18, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 18, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 17, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Are you from the North?

What's that got to do with anything?

Yes got loads of friends who are from the North, he probably just wants to ask if you know any of them!
Fair enough so, I should have spotted that myself.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

BluestackBoy

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Hawkeye.
Seriously, we're not talking about tiny margins here, it's pretty obvious where someone is relative to the 45m line when they kick a ball, for example.

I don't think it is that obvious, certainly not to the referee who will in all likliehood not be standing on the 45 to adjudicate.
Not all referees are county standard & levels of fitness in some cases are questionable!!

On top of that how does the referee let people know what is a one or two pointer? Will we have arm waving or lifting of the left knee or a buck lep??

For entertainment alone it might be worth a go!!
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

Jinxy

He does the special '2 point shuffle'.
In my head, it looks a bit like the moon walk.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

BluestackBoy

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2015, 05:43:31 PM
He does the special '2 point shuffle'.
In my head, it looks a bit like the moon walk.

Haha, how about a few steps from the "Siege of Ennis"?
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

armaghniac

The sideline has existed since the start of the GAA and people seem able to see which side of the line people are on.It isn't that hard.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

BluestackBoy

Quote from: armaghniac on April 18, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
The sideline has existed since the start of the GAA and people seem able to see which side of the line people are on.It isn't that hard.
Only because we have linesmen!!
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

INDIANA

Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 18, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 17, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Are you from the North?

What's that got to do with anything?

Would explain why you shoot down every alternative offered here

BluestackBoy

Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2015, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 18, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 17, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on April 17, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 17, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 17, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
I'd change the pitch markings by adding a line at 40m.
Any score kicked from outside that is worth 2 points.
Would encourage long-range kicking and force defences to push up.
Plenty of lads out there who can kick scores from that distance as we saw last weekend.
Very good idea, Jinxy
Whose going to adjudicate whether the player is inside or outside the line? What about the marginal calls where the player stars the kick outside the 40 but finishes the kick on or inside the line?
A recipe for mayhem & more abuse for officials.

Are you from the North?

What's that got to do with anything?

Would explain why you shoot down every alternative offered here

Every alternative!!!!!  That's a laugh. This is the only rule change option I have criticised on this thread for the reasons given.

A little anti Northern bias on display in your post but as it happens I am from the North, Donegal to be precise.

I don't think there is a lot wrong with the game as it stands as last weeks league semis & today's U21 semis show. There are a couple of small changes I would make however.

1 Ban pass backs to the keeper.
2 Stop keepers coming out to take free kicks.
3 Take all kickouts from the 21 yd line & make them go to the 50 yd line.

All easy to police & would not alter the nature of the game.

I would also consider banning the handpass entirely in favour of closed fist passing which would I think cut down on it's use.
I would also consider penalising teams who foul a lot by awarding 14 yd frees once a certain number of fouls have been committed in each half.

One thing I do strongly believe is that any changes must be easy to police. Life for the officials is difficult enough as it is.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

BennyHarp

So Colm's rule changes that he teased us about last weekend...

"A few simple rule changes then. A goalkeeper must kick the ball out beyond a certain point: 45 metres is too far but a dotted line at 35 would suffice. A maximum of three handpasses in a row and no back passing to the goalkeeper. I would add in too that a black card in the last quarter of a game should mean no substitution as players don't mind taking a player down to protect a lead and a fresh player comes on anyway."
That was never a square ball!!

BluestackBoy

Quote from: BennyHarp on April 19, 2015, 11:28:16 PM
So Colm's rule changes that he teased us about last weekend...

"A few simple rule changes then. A goalkeeper must kick the ball out beyond a certain point: 45 metres is too far but a dotted line at 35 would suffice. A maximum of three handpasses in a row and no back passing to the goalkeeper. I would add in too that a black card in the last quarter of a game should mean no substitution as players don't mind taking a player down to protect a lead and a fresh player comes on anyway."

Good idea, effective & easy to implement.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.