Almost 2000 pubs closed since 2005

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0823/1401131-pub-closures/

[seafoid]

One of those things about Irish life like Cork hurling all Irelands and Mass attendance that would have been hard to predict in 2005.

[bennydorano]

Hard to have a lot of sympathy for pubs, it's been coming a long time and is 20 odd years in the making, they loved to see the budget putting up price of pints by 2p so they could slap 10p on it by tea time the same day. A lot more to it than that obviously but it's something that always stuck in my mind.

[Eamonnca1]

Could this be related?

https://trinitynews.ie/2021/12/deja-brew-the-growth-of-irelands-coffee-industry/

[Milltown Row2]

Can we please blame it on climate change? Or neoliberalism

[AustinPowers]

Could this be related?

https://trinitynews.ie/2021/12/deja-brew-the-growth-of-irelands-coffee-industry/

I'd imagine it is

This coffee  craze baffles me.  I can't recall the last time I   Bought a  take away coffee (or tea),  nainly because the price is  ridiculous  and it tastes like  dish water .  I'm not even  sure  all these people who are drinking  these coffees, are even enjoying   it. It's nearly to  be seen drinking coffee.

[mrdeeds]

I see one of Healy Raes saying drugs maybe a factor too. Can't say I disagree.

[Tony Baloney]

I see one of Healy Raes saying drugs maybe a factor too. Can't say I disagree.

They should campaign to allow people to get pissed and drive home

[thewobbler]

In no particular order:

1. Smoking ban.
2. Drink driving ban.
3. Disparity of pricing between on trade and off trade.
4. Cost of insurance
5. Cost of musical entertainment.
6. Health campaigns and health awareness.
7. Subsequent generations endeavouring not be like their alcoholic fathers.
8. Rising costs of living
9. People preferring to go on holidays
10. Drugs, tied into on-trade pricing, providing an alternative night out.
11. Drugs, leading to rowdier and louder drinking environments.
12. Commercialisation of pubs / super pubs wiping out competition.
13. Relaxation of opening hours, creating a longer working week for the same money.
14.  Satellite TV, computer games, etc providing alternative entertainment.
15. The unfashionable costs of satellite TV for pubs. And almost every pub must engage.
16. Diageo (and other manufacturers) being run by accountants whose solution to every problem is to increase the price of draught beer.
17. The service industry providing so many more career opportunities for what once were natural publicans.
18. For a long time too much competition. I'm not sure when it was that Ireland exploded from a pub in every village to a street of pubs in every village. But it happened and it was too many.

[armaghniac]

Alcohol consumption peaked in Ireland in 2007 or so, and people wised up a bit. There were too many pubs in most country places, Crossmaglen boasted 14 at one point. One became a pizzeria, which is progress of a sort.

[seafoid]

The fall in pubs was around 20% which was only 3% in Dublin. It seems to be a rural shakedown. The rural economy is weaker and less able to support jobs. Pubs survived previous economic crises in the 50s,70s, 80s .  Maybe the drinking patterns of women played a role as well. And car availability.  Easier to drive to an off licence. Alcoholism levels probably haven't fallen by 20% . Some trends are harder to shift.

[Hoof Hearted]

Alcohol consumption peaked in Ireland in 2007 or so, and people wised up a bit. There were too many pubs in most country places, Crossmaglen boasted 14 at one point. One became a pizzeria, which is progress of a sort.

Draperstown similar, only one opened now

[sensethetone]

Alcohol consumption peaked in Ireland in 2007 or so, and people wised up a bit. There were too many pubs in most country places, Crossmaglen boasted 14 at one point. One became a pizzeria, which is progress of a sort.

Draperstown similar, only one opened now

You wouldn't want to get barred from there.

[seafoid]

Alcohol consumption peaked in Ireland in 2007 or so, and people wised up a bit. There were too many pubs in most country places, Crossmaglen boasted 14 at one point. One became a pizzeria, which is progress of a sort.

Draperstown similar, only one opened now

Any other pubs in 'Screen'??

[seafoid]

Rising living standards and education probably played a role too.
There was a generational shift in rural areas and there would have been more employment options than running a pub compared to the 80s. I remember
a family who came back from England, ran a pub and after 5 years went back to England mid 80s. Ann Lovett's father ran a series of  pubs in Longford in the 80s. There wasn't much money in the business at the time.