Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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LeoMc

Quote from: time ticking away on December 01, 2023, 08:35:41 PMMaybe he just wants someone to have wee chats with
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?
Big difference is Ricey needed McIver has he was away with cavan. Horse same Louth. Moortown don't need Conway. Chris Lawn more than capable of doing it on his own.
Anyone who trys to tell me that a manager can't manage and coach at the same time is wrong. Yes he will definitely need help and split the training up but at the end of the day to many people complicate it

And Jody needed Peter?

intheknowhow

Quote from: LeoMc on December 02, 2023, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: time ticking away on December 01, 2023, 08:35:41 PMMaybe he just wants someone to have wee chats with
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?
Big difference is Ricey needed McIver has he was away with cavan. Horse same Louth. Moortown don't need Conway. Chris Lawn more than capable of doing it on his own.
Anyone who trys to tell me that a manager can't manage and coach at the same time is wrong. Yes he will definitely need help and split the training up but at the end of the day to many people complicate it

And Jody needed Peter?

It's totally possible but if you want to create the right structure. All the top winning clubs have a manager and coach

Take_her_back_ref

There are very few examples, certainly in modern day football, of the same man managing and coaching a team. I've never come across it too often in club football. It would be a poor decision from a club to let one man do both roles. Two very different roles and I haven't seen many men who are good at both.

square_ball

News of another tragedy in the Kildress club this evening. Thoughts and prayers to them.


clarshack

Quote from: square_ball on December 02, 2023, 08:06:52 PMNews of another tragedy in the Kildress club this evening. Thoughts and prayers to them.



Terrible news. Sympathies to the Kildress club.

redzone

Colly Mccullagh,Nigel Seaney,Jody Gormley all won championships recently combining both. Anyway who cares.
Terrible news in Kildress. RIP

Mikhailov

Quote from: redzone on December 02, 2023, 08:53:05 PMColly Mccullagh,Nigel Seaney,Jody Gormley all won championships recently combining both. Anyway who cares.
Terrible news in Kildress. RIP

Are you serious?

McCullagh had Ricey & McIver in his backroom team
Seaney had Jody in his team last year
Jody had Peter McGinnity this year

Mikhailov

Terrible news from Kildress, tragic stuff altogether. RIP

redzone

Quote from: Mikhailov on December 02, 2023, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 02, 2023, 08:53:05 PMColly Mccullagh,Nigel Seaney,Jody Gormley all won championships recently combining both. Anyway who cares.
Terrible news in Kildress. RIP

Are you serious?

McCullagh had Ricey & McIver in his backroom team
Seaney had Jody in his team last year
Jody had Peter McGinnity this year
What part do u not get. All 3 of them managers were heavily involved in the on field coaching of there team. The initial argument was u can't coach and manage at the same time. There is three championship winners who have.
Sure u can whoever u want in ure backroom team. That's got nothing to with the arguement

sensethetone

Quote from: clarshack on December 02, 2023, 08:12:11 PM
Quote from: square_ball on December 02, 2023, 08:06:52 PMNews of another tragedy in the Kildress club this evening. Thoughts and prayers to them.



Terrible news. Sympathies to the Kildress club.

RIP Mattie..

intheknowhow

Quote from: redzone on December 02, 2023, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 02, 2023, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 02, 2023, 08:53:05 PMColly Mccullagh,Nigel Seaney,Jody Gormley all won championships recently combining both. Anyway who cares.
Terrible news in Kildress. RIP

Are you serious?

McCullagh had Ricey & McIver in his backroom team
Seaney had Jody in his team last year
Jody had Peter McGinnity this year
What part do u not get. All 3 of them managers were heavily involved in the on field coaching of there team. The initial argument was u can't coach and manage at the same time. There is three championship winners who have.
Sure u can whoever u want in ure backroom team. That's got nothing to with the arguement

Yes but they had coaches with them

You can't have 1 man managing and doing the coaching and a few selectors knocking about.

Stan

Different men approach things differently - its about getting the balance right about responsibilities, a single voice that people can listen to, understand and ultimately respect.
Depending on how realistic the changes of success are for each team, more 1-2-1 coaching might be needed, involving other 'coaches'
Some of the university teams have management teams of up on 10 people.

Mickey Harte doesn't go beyond a few trusted people.

the days of one man looking after both the coaching and management are long gone

snowy2hunt

anyone here when youth age groups will be starting   . I was told last night that Minor & U14 will be out first in March and U16 in july . Some Minor & u14 grades are only just finished . Dont know why they would  change it up this  year

Onthe40

if that's the case, its just another continuation of the muppet show that's up in garvaghy,,, and they'll probably confirm the week before the first age group are out like last year
makes no sense with tyrone minors out in march and likely one of the local schools still in Mcrory/hogan..


is this to coincide with other counties?


WT4E

Still doesn't feel real.

In my time on this board I've had lots of opinions and craic but the day has come where I never thought I'd be typing something so hard.

Matty has left us.

On occasion I was accused of being Matty and when he would read posters saying that him and I would laugh – that was the type of lad he was he took it all in his stride.

He would read this board and text do you see what they are talking about now! 😊 Write you something on there for the craic.

The Tones have lost their Star
A family has lost such a good Lad
A girlfriend has lost the love of her life from they where 15
And I've lost my best friend!

RIP Matty! Til we meet again!!!