Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

Started by toby47, March 14, 2019, 11:29:54 AM

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Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

Lionel Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo

Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 04, 2023, 10:40:13 PMDefinitely deservedly 2010.
Sneijder and Xavi/Iniesta all more deserving imo

seafoid

The Ballon d'Or is like a concentrated version of the all Stars. The winners of the all Ireland get the most all stars. when the winners are confined to a very small number of teams the same people win year after year.
So 15 years or whatever of Messi and Ronaldo ignores all the other good players during that time
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Armagh18

That's because they've been the best in the world for close to 15 years. Other players like R9 and Ronaldinho and even Suarez maybe hit similar heights for a season or two but no one in history has ever or will ever come close to doing it so well for so long. Ronaldos 07/08 season at United, Messi's performances against United in the champions league finals, his 91 goal year in 2012, Ronaldos stats for the 3 in a row champions league. All unbelievable. 

The way Haalands going he may eventually hit the goal records but ability wise he's miles away. The other great players get named in FIFA world XI's although they were usually named moreso on reputation than actual performance

Wildweasel74

Been the best in the world over a long period, should have no basis, on best player on a yearly basis, both players have awards which should they shouldn't got, in certain years, the make up of who selects the players is all wrong, plus a top 5 is enough to select from, as top 10 spreads votes out too much.

Armagh18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 06, 2023, 12:28:45 PMBeen the best in the world over a long period, should have no basis, on best player on a yearly basis, both players have awards which should they shouldn't got, in certain years, the make up of who selects the players is all wrong, plus a top 5 is enough to select from, as top 10 spreads votes out too much.
Not sure any of Ronaldos could be argued against. Maybe 2013 Ribety had a case but Ronaldos stats were  miles ahead. 2010, 2019, 2021 and 2023 for Messi all abit iffy for me.

From the Bunker

Individual awards in team sports can always be controversial.

Ireland and Northern Ireland voted for Messi.