A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[trailer]

I see on the RTÉ News a big investment in Derry/Strabane of around £1Billion.
Includes €500m from the Taoiseach's Shared Island Unit.

Angela won't like that.

Is it the City deal you're on about? £250m
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-56176160

[An Watcher]

Did I hear £50 million for Strabane Town centre? Tremendous news. Not before time.

[Main Street]

Not bad considering he's a langer.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1364864367121022977

'Outstanding physical and comedic performer' - The Scotsman
'Marxist, terrorist-supporting sc**bag' - Some lad on Twitter.

[Angelo]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

[Applesisapples]

This is a good argument and outlines why most in the catholic community, even those unconvinced about unity have no allegiance to the 6 county state. A major OG by unionism.

[johnnycool]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

Pretty much spot on from my perspective (other perspectives are valid too) in so much Unionism over the last number of years are struggling to come to terms with the fact they're not in the majority as they once were and a lot of that is indeed to do with their own intransigence and ignorance as much as shifting demographics and the emergence of Alliance to fill the middle ground.

That same middle ground is where any referendum on a UI will be won and lost, something the Shinners need to be acutely aware of and some of their more vocal members will put that middle ground off them and subsequently the thought of a UI.

A UI will almost certainly see the end of the duopoly of FF and FG and they'll obviously want to preserve that for their usual selfish interests for as long as possible.

I think the 2021 consensus currently being rolled out at the minute is going to tell us a tale.

[Rossfan]

Did you mean Census?
You're absolutely right when you say the "middle ground" will decide the issue.
As for Political parties in the future All Ireland entity....
As well as FF/FG I think SF will have no reason for existence either and will likely split into 2 or 3.

[clonadmad]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

[Angelo]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

That's a typical entitled free state Ireland viewpoint

We don't want to leave our rotten state to join your rotten state.

We need a new Ireland, that consigns the bigotry of unionism of the political gangsterism of FFG to the dustbin.

That's why partitionists like you just don't get it.

[clonadmad]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

That's a typical entitled free state Ireland viewpoint

We don't want to leave our rotten state to join your rotten state.

We need a new Ireland, that consigns the bigotry of unionism of the political gangsterism of FFG to the dustbin.

That's why partitionists like you just don't get it.

You hate us

That's fairly obvious

I really don't understand then why you want to join us in a UI

Are there many more like you up there?

Because if there are,you are doing the job of preventing a UI better than any DUPer or Loyalist could ever do

Completely self defeating in your attitude of hectoring and insulting those of us in the south who might vote for a UI

[Angelo]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

That's a typical entitled free state Ireland viewpoint

We don't want to leave our rotten state to join your rotten state.

We need a new Ireland, that consigns the bigotry of unionism of the political gangsterism of FFG to the dustbin.

That's why partitionists like you just don't get it.

You hate us

That's fairly obvious

I really don't understand then why you want to join us in a UI

Are there many more like you up there?

Because if there are,you are the doing the job better of preventing a UI than any DUPer or Loyalist could ever do

Completely self defeating in your attitude of hectoring and insulting those of us in the south who might vote for a UI

Hate ye? No. I think that's projection from you, it's your deep rooted hatred of northern natioanlists. You see it in the establishment treatment of a political party with its base roots in the north.

You see routinely in the Dail, we saw a few weeks ago in a scurrilous attack from Micheal Martin on victims of the troubles. He was asked a question on behalf of a group of relatives of victims of the troubles, this groups contained victims from all divides, he was asked if he would act on it in his position as head of the free state. Rather than addressing the needs of victims of the troubles, he had not even read the letter, he decided to attack the messenger, a person who was a bereaved relative of the troubles and I think tells you all you need to know of the hatred free staters like yourself have on the troubles.

I do think the free state should be utterly ashamed of their inaction and their treatment of northern nationalists.

The article above is something you should take the time to read, it shows the kind of backward thinking you engage in.

[general_lee]

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

The politicians have a funny way of showing it. Micheal Martin couldn't come across more indifferent if he tried. For someone who is leader of a party that purports to be Republican, he seems more concerned about SF (and therefore delaying a UI) than he does about promoting reunification of this country. It confirms the impression many people in the north have about FF and FG, all they care about is power - much like the DUP.

[sid waddell]

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

The politicians have a funny way of showing it. Micheal Martin couldn't come across more indifferent if he tried. For someone who is leader of a party that purports to be Republican, he seems more concerned about SF (and therefore delaying a UI) than he does about promoting reunification of this country. It confirms the impression many people in the north have about FF and FG, all they care about is power - much like the DUP.

A united Ireland is very much a fringe issue in the Republic - at best

It is a total non-issue at election time

The Republic voted to give up its territorial claim over the North in 1998

And so too did Nationalists in the North vote for it to do so

[johnnycool]

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

Opinion polls are one thing and I don't doubt that there's a desire among the population for a UI but that same enthusiasm isn't shown by either FF or FG leadership throughout history and especially that great leader in place now.

[Rossfan]

https://www.thejournal.ie/brexit-permanently-changed-northern-ireland-5376526-Mar2021/