A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[Rossfan]

What are "shires of Roscommon"??
Syfīn - you might take a look at the first preference figures in the Stormont Elections thread.

[tiempo]

What are "shires of Roscommon"??
Syfīn - you might take a look at the first preference figures in the Stormont Elections thread.

We've been through this lad - a demilitarised zone for quislings.

[Rossfan]

And you expect us to join with insulting extremist arseholes

[tiempo]

And you expect us to join with insulting extremist arseholes

Yeah I know mad isn't it - you wouldn't be seen dead with 900,000 Unionsits about the place!!

Happy enough down about the shires like. Nice and demilitarised.

Good for rearing families and the like.

[Owen Brannigan]

A really classy act - speaking to a virtually empty European parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39269305?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_news_ni&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=northern_ireland

[Franko]

A really classy act - speaking to a virtually empty European parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39269305?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_news_ni&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=northern_ireland

An idiot of the highest order.

[armaghniac]

A really classy act - speaking to a virtually empty European parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39269305?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_news_ni&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=northern_ireland

SF in the North has a talent deficit. There are half a dozen SF people in the 26 counties who are pretty effective, and above anyone in the wee 6.

[LeoMc]

And you expect us to join with insulting extremist arseholes

I think you are arguing with Martinas speech writer there!

[heganboy]

Export Statistics for N.Ireland

Total sales by companies in Northern Ireland (NI) were estimated to be worth £66.7 billion in 2015

Sales within NI - £43.7 billion
.
Sales to Great Britain (GB) - £13.8 billion.

External sales (sales to markets outside NI) - £23.0 billion (34.4% of total sales).

Exports (sales outside the UK) - £9.1 billion.

Exports to the Republic of Ireland (RoI) - £3.4 billion.

Exports to the Rest of the EU (RoEU, excluding RoI) - £1.9 billion. 

Exports to the Rest of the World (RoW) - £3.8 billion.

Source?

I hate to point out the obvious but £98.4 Billion is the actual total of those numbers not £ 66.7 billion...

[armaghniac]

Export Statistics for N.Ireland

Total sales by companies in Northern Ireland (NI) were estimated to be worth £66.7 billion in 2015

Sales within NI - £43.7 billion
.
Sales to Great Britain (GB) - £13.8 billion.

External sales (sales to markets outside NI) - £23.0 billion (34.4% of total sales).

Exports (sales outside the UK) - £9.1 billion.

Exports to the Republic of Ireland (RoI) - £3.4 billion.

Exports to the Rest of the EU (RoEU, excluding RoI) - £1.9 billion. 

Exports to the Rest of the World (RoW) - £3.8 billion.

Source?

I hate to point out the obvious but £98.4 Billion is the actual total of those numbers not £ 66.7 billion...

No doubt because some of them are components of the other? There are only two figures to add, inside NI £43.7 and outside NI £23.

[Applesisapples]

If there ever is a UI it will be a political decision between the uk and the ROI, which no doubt will involve the Uk and possibly the EU underwriting the economy to a point that it can stand alone, this will have long term benefits and savings for the UK. I have not seen a serious independent report on the economic case for a UI. All these calls for a poll at the moment are premature as a majority of nationalists remain unconvinced. The whining belligerent speech by Martina Anderson in the European Parliament will achieve nothing except confirming that she is a fool.

[AhNowRef]

If Brexit does end up being a "complete" disaster it may entice a lot of middle of the road Nationalist voters and pragmatic Unionist voters in NI to take a side....

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/brexit-drives-registration-of-100-000-uk-firms-in-ireland-1.2985509

[armaghniac]

If there ever is a UI it will be a political decision between the uk and the ROI, which no doubt will involve the Uk and possibly the EU underwriting the economy to a point that it can stand alone, this will have long term benefits and savings for the UK. I have not seen a serious independent report on the economic case for a UI. All these calls for a poll at the moment are premature as a majority of nationalists remain unconvinced. The whining belligerent speech by Martina Anderson in the European Parliament will achieve nothing except confirming that she is a fool.

The problem is that SF can call for a border poll, but they have zero capacity to put forward an economic model for unification that people can believe in. There certainly is a case for the UK giving a good deal, but I would be worried that any discussion will be concerned with not giving Scotland a good deal, or a precedent for one, rather than behaving reasonably and responsibly in relation to NI.

[Owen Brannigan]

Export Statistics for N.Ireland

Total sales by companies in Northern Ireland (NI) were estimated to be worth £66.7 billion in 2015

Sales within NI - £43.7 billion
.
Sales to Great Britain (GB) - £13.8 billion.

External sales (sales to markets outside NI) - £23.0 billion (34.4% of total sales).

Exports (sales outside the UK) - £9.1 billion.

Exports to the Republic of Ireland (RoI) - £3.4 billion.

Exports to the Rest of the EU (RoEU, excluding RoI) - £1.9 billion. 

Exports to the Rest of the World (RoW) - £3.8 billion.

Source?

I hate to point out the obvious but £98.4 Billion is the actual total of those numbers not £ 66.7 billion...

https://www.economy-ni.gov.uk/articles/broad-economy-exports

[Owen Brannigan]

How about this presentation of the data to make it clearer?

Total sales by companies in Northern Ireland (NI) were estimated to be worth £66.7 billion in 2015

Sales within NI - £43.7 billion
.
External sales (Outside NI) - £23.0 billion (34.4% of total sales) = 13.8 bn (GB) + £9.1 bn (Outside UK)

Sales to Great Britain (GB) - £13.8 billion (20.7% of sales)



Exports (outside the UK) - £9.1 bn = £3.8 bn (RoW) + £3.4 (RoI) + £1.9 bn (RoEU)

Consisting of:

Exports to the Rest of the World (RoW) - £3.8 billion (5.7% of sales)

Exports to the Republic of Ireland (RoI) - £3.4 billion (5.1% of sales)

Exports to the Rest of the EU (RoEU, excluding RoI) - £1.9 billion (2.8% of sales)