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What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

With tax rates as they are? You'll not be getting rich on it put it that way.

For the integrity of the competition, the game should go ahead in Corrigan Park.

The Leinster counties (laois Kildare Meath in particular) sacraficed home advantage to the Dubs for the short term pay day and in the process destroyed their provincial championship.

If some Armagh supporters miss out that's simply tough luck. They should be compensated accordingly and let the competition progress.

Agreed.

Give them the price of a ticket for the next game or whatever and televise it.

Are the  Health and safety requirements for league games  different  to those for championship games?

Does it depend on size of crowd?

The ground has a certified safe capacity.

If you exceed it during a friendly, your in violation of the same health and safety requirements as exist if it were an All Ireland final.

So no - H&S requirements do not change.

OK, so why are Antrim allowed  to play NFL games in Corrigan Park, but  not a championship game?

Because Leitrim do not take as big a crowd as Armagh.

Yes,  but by that  logic , the All Ireland final should be moved to Wembley  or the Nou Camp , because clearly Croke Park isn't big enough  to cater for the  ticket demands

Logic!?
The GAA don't own those stadia and the playing pitches are too small.

Anyway doesn't Croke Park hold as much as Wembley?

Wembley is a few k more think it's around 90. Croker 4th in Europe after Nou Camp, Bernabeau and Wembley I think.

Any daft point

See Love/Hate is to come back next year, wonder what road they go with it. Apparently Netflix not rte are making it. Rumours toe rag McGregor is in it though which would spoilt it...

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Can see the two sides to the argument.  Understand Antrim wanting to get any advantage and they're right to remind people that they drew the home venue.  But having said that, it's also reasonable to expect that any county with home advantage should be able to host say 10,000 supporters minimum.  Is there another county in Ulster that couldn't host that number or more?  Corrigan park is not fit to host county championship matches - it just isn't. It's a decent club ground and that's its limit.  It's a sorry state of affairs that Antrim doesn't have a county standard facility fit for the 21st century but that's another discussion. 

It is not Antrim's fault they don't have a stadium. They had one of the largest outside of Clones and the Ulster Council made a complete bollox of it. That's where the blame lies. Wouldn't matter what Ulster county they played, Corrigan Park wouldn't be big enough. Everyone knew Antrims situation for years before any draw so it's hardly a surprise.

Some of the stuff from Armagh fans on Facebook about this is laughable. Wouldn't matter if Antrim could accommodate 10k they'd still complain it wasn't big enough. Waiting on a campaign to get the game moved to Croke Park. Not even sure that's big enough given all these supporters that are going to be going. Maybe Jarlath will write a strongly worded email.

Easy to threaten that you won't play in a competition that you've got f all chance of winning.

Anyone  think the Antrim players would be taking this stance if they were realistic contenders for the Anglo Celt.

Probably not but that doesn't make them any less right.

Whoever you want to blame for the Casement shitshow it is certainly not the Antrim players.

Stupid question but what did Antrim do for home draws in previous years? Is it only the fact that Armagh have so many season ticket holders?

£55k, where you getting this lol

An experienced teacher at top of pay scale with 1 Allowance would earn £48 500 Gross at the minute.

Jesus thats not great is it by the time the tax man bends you over and does his thing

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

Sure it goes to extra time and penalties

Penalties is now gone under new rules. 

Good man Jarlath lol

You're after coming on yesterday and calling a fella a nonce.... Some craic.

[NoSorry, home advantage must be forfeited]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

Just to be clear here boss, although I'm Armagh, I'm siding with the Antrim players/management in this case.

But if this goes ahead in Corrigan, what I think is most likely to happen is Armagh will get most season tickets fulfilled and Antrim will get a few hundred ...For a home game!!!
That's near more unfair on Antrim supporters than anyone else.

I'm a season ticket holder and I don't feel entitled at all for this game, if I miss out so be it, I understand the reasons.
But the wider issue isn't addressed and it shouldn't be coming to this - I'm sure you would have to agree with that?

Wider issue being build Casement?

The season ticket cap isnt overly high I don't think, what does Corrigan hold?

Why did I bother replying. 2 WUM's. (Actually most likely 1 replying to himself)

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

Did Louth kick up a fuss or were they happy enough?

Players should be the priority and wherever they want to play is where it should be played as they have home advantage imo.

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out