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[like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit]

but sure by that measurement, wanting to know what others think of you because you're insecure, the whole of feckin' ireland is subject to cultural cringe and the whole of practically every country that ever existed is too. people may ask you proudly, what do you think of us?... but answer them in a way that's not gushing with positivity and they take it hard. there's nearly always an element of insecurity about folk, otherwise they can be egotistical arseholes. so people take it hard, because it's a natural response, like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit. a load of old bollocks, but sure that doesn't stop the eejit who generalises now does it?

oh, so Nordies think Kerry people are thick as shit 

This is the kind of abuse we have taken from you Nordies for years...and then you get all precious when you get a response. Hypocrites !

you're so predictable... there you go stereotyping "nordie" people (as you call us) and me as having certain thoughts about kerry people. i can only speak for myself, as i'm merely from donegal, and in now way am representative of everyone from donegal, or those you consider to be "nordies" either, but i don't think kerry people are thick as shit. i think you're an ignoramus because you're rude and deliberately offensive, like a true troll, but that's different from thinking you're thick. you're just throw insults at people and when you're taken up on your shitty behaviour you cry foul.

i find your accusation hypocritical if i'm being honest, coming from you who loves to stereotype tyrone people or those you deem as "nordie" people. but if i must clarify my position for you, fair enough... the point i made that you didn't get was that generalisations, including those about people from your own county, or anywhere else for that matter, are a load of old bollocks, i.e, that these generalisations/stereotypes are not a truthful representation of the complexity and diversity of a social group.

so, just to clear things up for you, i think you're rude and ignorant and i don't think people from kerry are thick as shit. does that help you in any way?

The root of all the Kerry v  Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is  why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not  our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.

The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.

I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.

rather than guess what you mean, could you explain to me this strong hint of tyrone cultural cringe? and what do the aussies have to do with it?

Oh, you are from Tyrone again are you ? I thought you were a Donegal man.
The link below explains the concept of cultural cringe. It is not specific to Aussies but they are well known for it hence the reason I likened Tyrone people to Aussies. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe#Australia

Jesus, do they teach ye anything up there.

but sure by that measurement, wanting to know what others think of you because you're insecure, the whole of feckin' ireland is subject to cultural cringe and the whole of practically every country that ever existed is too. people may ask you proudly, what do you think of us?... but answer them in a way that's not gushing with positivity and they take it hard. there's nearly always an element of insecurity about folk, otherwise they can be egotistical arseholes. so people take it hard, because it's a natural response, like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit. a load of old bollocks, but sure that doesn't stop the eejit who generalises now does it?   

The root of all the Kerry v  Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is  why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not  our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.

The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.

I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.

rather than guess what you mean, could you explain to me this strong hint of tyrone cultural cringe? and what do the aussies have to do with it? 

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Miliband is heading to a new job in New York so I would guess he was gonna quit the post anyway but has taken the opportunity to score some cheap points.

i never knew it was possible to score some cheap points on a fascist, but if you say so.

i'm just laughing here at the prospect of the sunderland dressing room and how different it's going to be now with di canio instead of mon. those poor players, exactly the daily kick up the arse those underperforming spoilt primadonnas deserve? there'll be fireworks that's a guarantee with di canio.

Apparently there was a shortlist of 4.

Balotelli was contracted and Maradona was considered too much of a dope.

Olly hasn't commented yet.

di canio is right up there though. instead of being passionate, i'm more of the opinion that he's more, well, i wouldn't even say he's passive aggressive, he's just aggressive. very little tact. wonder what kind of a contract he got. i suppose they'll just use him for staying up and then go with somebody else. who knows. sunderland are dead to me now.

He got a 2.5 year contract

2.5 is about right. any less and he probabbly wouldn't have gone. sunderland are a car about to end up in a brick wall somewhere. it remains to be seen exactly where it's going to end up.

i'm just laughing here at the prospect of the sunderland dressing room and how different it's going to be now with di canio instead of mon. those poor players, exactly the daily kick up the arse those underperforming spoilt primadonnas deserve? there'll be fireworks that's a guarantee with di canio.

Apparently there was a shortlist of 4.

Balotelli was contracted and Maradona was considered too much of a dope.

Olly hasn't commented yet.

di canio is right up there though. instead of being passionate, i'm more of the opinion that he's more, well, i wouldn't even say he's passive aggressive, he's just aggressive. very little tact. wonder what kind of a contract he got. i suppose they'll just use him for staying up and then go with somebody else. who knows. sunderland are dead to me now.

oh, even more interesting, david milliband resigns as a director on account of di canio's fascist politics. never knew milliband was a sunderland fan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/31/paolo-di-canio-sunderland-talks-manager

i'm just laughing here at the prospect of the sunderland dressing room and how different it's going to be now with di canio instead of mon. those poor players, exactly the daily kick up the arse those underperforming spoilt primadonnas deserve? there'll be fireworks that's a guarantee with di canio.

well, di canio it is!

he'll probably keep them up, secure a champions league spot next season, as well as winning the fa cup, starting an era of black cats dominance that makes us all go Martin who? in 5 years time.

now, where did i leave that lsd, my good friend my little pony wants some. 

shows the desperate measures clubs will go to to stay up.

more often yhannot they dont though.
If you were a manager of a Cship side, why would you want to go up.Every year at leaat 2 of them get sacked.

look at the history :-

Nigel Adkins, Brian mcDermott, Neil Warnock, Bily Davies, Mick McCarthy etc etc

Whats the chances of Malky McKay being sacked by xmas ? (all ifs and buts included)

i've always thought sunderland had a premiership squad, but they'll be very lucky to escape the drop this time. if they go down, they might end up like wolves, in freefall. hope they don't, always had a soft spot for them. shame it hasn't worked out because o'neill clearly was passionate about them and vice versa. they're turning into a manager killer club.

shows the desperate measures clubs will go to to stay up.

dennis rodman has it under control.

I'm off the grog for the foreseeable, so I wish yis would all feck off and delete this thread 

nothing too serious i hope.