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Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

I believe they don't allow temporary seating for the Euros which would mean the Hill end would be empty.

The main point is U.K./Ireland bid submitted Casement Park so the British government should do the honouable thing and pay up. It's not as if the Euros won't be contributing to their economy. Heaton Harris is playing to the bigots of the world with his we won't pay if it costs too much. They committed to hosting and committed to this stadium so get the wallet out.
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Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.
#3
Derry v Dublin - Draw
Mayo v Roscommon - Roscommon
Kerry v Tyrone - Kerry
Monaghan v Galway - Draw

Fermanagh v Armagh - Armagh
Cavan v Meath - Cavan
Donegal v Louth - Donegal
Cork v Kildare - Cork

Limerick v Clare - Clare
Antrim v Westmeath - Antrim
Down v Sligo - Down
Offaly v Wicklow - Offaly

Carlow v Wexford - Carlow
Laois v London - Laois
Tipperary v Waterford - Tipperary
Longford v Leitrim - Draw
#4
Someone iconic - Bowie, Elvis, Dylan, Cohen, Queen, Stones?
#5
Quote from: lurganblue on February 28, 2024, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 28, 2024, 10:44:35 AMI find it very strange that  Norn Iron  still play GSTQ/K at all , considering Wales and Scotland are very comfortable belting out their own  anthems

What is their alternative?  Ive heard Oh Danny Boy mentioned. It would put ya to sleep and sure they cant even agree on the name of it.

I had heard your man John Laverty journalist who was discussing Casement the other night once propose Be Thou My Vision. It's a hymn of Irish origin. Or as we used to sing in our house when the old black and white Ferguson broke down: F#%€ that Television, the scourge of our heart...
#6
Same attitude that stopped a university in Derry in the 60s. Can't now be having the best stadium in the North in West Belfast run by the GAA. Can't have Irish language signs. Cant't extend the Wild Atlantic Way to the Causeway Coast. Can't have same EU rules for milk in North and South. Can't even talk about an all-island economy. We've a command paper now to prove it doesn't even exist. The most apt line in Cahair's great article is that from a media perspective everything in North must be from a Unionist viewpoint. They must give permission and that permission won't be extended to anything that looks like the greening of the North.
#7
Quote from: Orior on February 23, 2024, 06:17:39 PMOn Wednesday, Stephen Nolan had three people on his television show discussing Casement Park. None of the three were in any way associated GAA. Indeed, one of the three was from the TUV (not Jim Alister) and had to keep reading his notes before talking.

On Thursday evening Mark Carruthers also discussed Casement Park and had commentators including one actual gaelic football journalist.



Caruthers had a much higher quality discussion with even the former DUP minister Simon Hamilton spoke in favour. Nolan not happy until he is ramping up the sectarianism. BBC has a lot to answer for.
#9
Tyrone v Mayo  - Draw
Dublin v Kerry - Draw
Galway v Derry - Derry
Roscommon v Monaghan - Roscommon

Fermanagh v Cork - Fermanagh
Louth v Cavan  - Draw
Meath v Kildare - Meath
Armagh v Donegal - Armagh

Down v Offaly - Down
Clare v Wicklow - Clare
Sligo v Antrim - Sligo
Westmeath v Limerick - Westmeath

Wexford v Waterford -Wexford
Longford v London - Longford
Carlow v Leitrim - Leitrim
Tipperary v Laois - Laois
#10
I imagine Casement will have no problem attracting American football games. Yanks will have no trouble spinning that as some kind of post-conflict Belfast Bowl or the Good Friday Peace Agreement Showdown. Even with a smaller capacity, if these games generate 147 million for Dublin then they will be very lucrative for Belfast too.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/08/25/american-football-dublin-welcomes-largest-number-of-americans-to-travel-abroad-for-sporting-event/
#11
To host an event like the Euros, governments have to invest. London spent £14 billion in the Olympics. If each game brought about 30,000 visitors to Belfast area (going with assumption North haven't a hope in hell of qualifying) , and each spent £500 (which is conservative) that's £75 million into the local economy. With concerts, American football one offs like Aviva, Ulster finals, it will well pay for itself.
#12
Most famous globally: Boyle's Chris O'Dowd, he played minor goalie for Ros back in the day.
#13
Quote from: Dreadnought on February 21, 2024, 09:39:41 AM
Quote from: weareros on February 20, 2024, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on February 20, 2024, 05:29:35 PMIt's not Leo's money.

It's not but at least his government has been generating surpluses to be in a position to do so. There's not one vote for Irish gov in 26 for any of this. This €800m is on top of €50m already signed off on for Magee, paying to keep North in Erasmus, €10m to fund nursing places, €200m contribution to EU peace fund, and of course a lot of work to keep North in EU customs union which provides free access to lucrative EU market for farmers and business while 26 is a net contributor not to mention letting EU raid our seas for the privilege. And I was and am a strong supporter of Dublin funding Casement as can be seen earlier in this thread.
I'd disagree there. The 600m on roads will benefit the people of Donegal and such who will use that road. While in a roundabout way the 50m for Casement will benefit the 3 Ulster counties not in the North. h emay get a few votes on the back of it

It will great for the whole country to have a top class GAA stadium in Belfast and a safe motorway connecting Derry to Dublin. I doubt it's a vote winner in 26 but you never know. I wouldn't think Clones will be too happy if Ulster Finals move on a permanent basis to Belfast. That's revenue shift for local business.
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Quote from: Derryman forever on February 20, 2024, 05:29:35 PMIt's not Leo's money.

It's not but at least his government has been generating surpluses to be in a position to do so. There's not one vote for Irish gov in 26 for any of this. This €800m is on top of €50m already signed off on for Magee, paying to keep North in Erasmus, €10m to fund nursing places, €200m contribution to EU peace fund, and of course a lot of work to keep North in EU customs union which provides free access to lucrative EU market for farmers and business while 26 is a net contributor not to mention letting EU raid our seas for the privilege. And I was and am a strong supporter of Dublin funding Casement as can be seen earlier in this thread.
#15
That should soften some coughs.