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#1
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2024, 11:03:56 AMRight, I've been thinking about this for a long time and would like your honest opinions. I know there is quite a few soccer men on here too so the topic is "Warm-ups".
GAA warm-up are so long and intense, I've been part of them and you're bollixed after the warm-up. I get the theory that as soon as that size 5 is thrown in you're ready to do battle and you have your 2nd wind etc etc.
Soccer warm-ups are a lot less frantic and seem to be half and three quarter pace with stretching and basically limbering up.
I know there is so much data out there for both sides so why the two complete different warm-ups?. I know they're different sports and different types of running and more impact etc etc but do we GAA players do too excessive warm-ups?. I think we do

I've long thought that having the same intensity one size fits all warm-up for every single player can't possibly be the best way - it's really puzzling when you see starters and subs going at the same pace given most of the subs aren't going to be called into action and for those who are called into action it's likely to be an hour before they get on the field.






#2
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 16, 2024, 08:21:00 PMArmagh still 3rd favorites for the All Ireland ahead of Donegal.


Would have though Donegal would have leap frogged them after this weekend.

15/2 versus 8/1 so not a huge pile between them.

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 2/1
Armagh 15/2
Donegal 8/1
Galway 14/1
Mayo 14/1
Derry 18/1
Tyrone 25/1
Cork 80/1
Roscommon 80/1
Monaghan 100/1
Louth 200/1
Cavan 1000/1
#3
QuoteColm O'Rourke is to seek another three years as Meath senior football boss with the Royal legend keen to remain in the hot seat for five years at a "minimum".

Progress has been slow for O'Rourke, who led Meath to Tailteann Cup success last year, having finally gotten his chance to take the reins with his native county and they exited the All-Ireland SFC after today's three-point loss to Monaghan.

Having finished with no points from three games in the group series, O'Rourke insists that time will be needed if they are to come anywhere close to soaring as they did in his own playing days.

O'Rourke initially signed up for three years at the helm - with a review after the second season - and he feels that good things are around the corner for an inexperienced squad that will only get "better and better and better".

"Well, I think it's going to take several years to build a team here, so I think it might take five years. So I think I'll go to the county board and ask them to give me five years as a minimum thing," O'Rourke said today.

"Because I think it's going to take certainly two or three years. We will be better next year, we'll be in contention for promotion from the second division (of the League) and then by the following year, we'll be in contention with all the big teams so it's a job of work.

"I'd be happy to stay with them, they're a great group of fellas, they're very committed and very dedicated. All they need is time and patience and kindness. I'm confident in them because they have a huge commitment.

"They all want to better themselves, their commitment to training and their dedication and discipline is just first class, as good as any other Meath team I've seen, so I think if we have patience with them they will significantly improve."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/its-going-to-take-time-colm-orourke-aims-for-three-more-years-with-meath/a1451225390.html

Neck like a jockey's bollox.
He knows there's no way RTE are letting him back in the building.
#4
Quote from: statto on June 15, 2024, 08:22:21 PMDerry need put out of their misery absolutely awful display.

Real vibe of a team just waiting to be done.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
June 15, 2024, 07:34:55 PM
Fermanagh were 0-8 to 0-2 up at HT against Antrim.

Antrim won it 1-11 to Fermanagh 0-11.

Fermanagh kicked a fair few wides.

No wind factor.
#6
Cork Tyrone lively enough - decent pace to it - both defences looking a bit shaky. Could well go down to the wire.

Sounds like an ideal start for Donegal.
#7
Quote from: tiempo on June 12, 2024, 12:04:27 PMWho Sir Roger Casement was won't be lost on the Tories, the last thing they're doing in their death knell is sending tens of millions towards infrastructure with the name of someone executed for high treason, they'd rather Labour do it so they can sit in opposition and call it out

I would be surprised if a significant percentage of the Tories would actually have any idea who Casement was.
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2024, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 12, 2024, 11:31:44 AMThe Ulster Council seemed sure of the money a few weeks ago?! What has happened?

https://x.com/mcgeehanstephen/status/1794269504782110948?s=46&t=CPMqYDyBX5OxJavXiPzZVQ

Rishi called a General Election and got CHH off the hook
#8
Quote from: p3427977 on June 12, 2024, 11:59:12 AMThe ROI will pull their funding now you'd think or drastically reduce it? I'd hope not but can see that happening.

There's no chance they will completely pull their funding but I could see them saying that it will have to be revised down with the Euros off the table. It's one thing putting in €50 million when the total cost was going to be £308 million. If the budget is reduced to £200 million, I can definitely see some civil servant in Dublin going we agreed to pay 1/6 of the cost not a 1/4, especially if the five Euro games are switched to the somewhere outside Ireland.

If as likely there is a delay to this - there might be a new bunch in charge in Dublin by the time funding is required.
If SF do get in power in Dublin (which I wouldn't say is that likely) I just can't see them increasing the £50million figure
Increasing a direct transfer of money to the North would be a very sticky political issue for them in South and the fact that the Euros would be gone from the equation would lead to all the other parties kicking up a fuss about paying more and getting less (with the Euros gone) I can't see it flying politically (really can't see any coalition partners agreeing to it -as it would give so much to the opposition)  I would say it would mean the odds of the €50million being reduced would be somewhat less under SF but I really wouldn't rate their chances of getting power next time around in the Republic that likely.
#9
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2024, 11:46:36 AMCould jarlath  not  just be putting the pressure on the  Brits here?

As in, they  promised the money would be found , and it's clearly not coming.  And at  the same time , taking the focus away from the GAA having to find  more money .

The thing is there are no Brits to put the pressure on.
The individual politicians who made those promises have left town so those promises are worth nothing.
The civil servants can't do anything without the political sign-off.
The lads who will be arriving in are a completely different set of individuals and by the time they take over they will legitimately and honestly be saying - the lads before us promised you money, on the basis that the stadium would be ready to host games for the Euros - there's no potential for that now so we're going to have to revise the amount we can provide. While Labour are better than the Tories, there's no chance there's going to be a blank cheque/all costs covered to completion promise when the Euros are off the table. They are still likely to contribute a significant amount of money (in the multi millions) but there's a significant difference between being told we'll chip in with £100 million (or something of that ilk) versus we'll pay you whatever it takes to get this project done.

Given the litany of failures/f**k-up and screw-ups in this project since inception is anyone surprised that the people in Ulster GAA got sold down the river by trusing the political promises of the Tories? 
#10
Quote from: giveherlong on June 12, 2024, 11:31:44 AMThe Ulster Council seemed sure of the money a few weeks ago?! What has happened?

https://x.com/mcgeehanstephen/status/1794269504782110948?s=46&t=CPMqYDyBX5OxJavXiPzZVQ

I'd be shocked if the Tories heading for the hills wasn't a big part of it. I'd imagine that the civil servants legally needed the politicans sign-off for the actual funds/blank cheque and the Tories didn't do that before exiting stage left. The timelines on the project were so tight already in terms of the UEFA rules that by the time Labour get someone in place that it will more than likely be too late.

The issue now is what sort of capacity stadium can be built with whatever funds Ulster GAA can get their hands on when Labour take over. Not having to comply with the UEFA requirements and deadlines should save a bit on the costs front but I would guess that capacity will have to be scaled back a good bit as I can't see Labour supplying a blank cheque promise to cover all the cost when the Euros are no longer on the table.

If I had to guess I would say that something around the 25k/28k size is the likeliest outcome at the moment.
Even something of that size is going to cost many millions - getting rid of the Euro requirements the current capacity would probably still probably cost somewhere around the £250 million mark based on £308 million figure being anyway realistic [the Euro requirements being dumped probably won't knock £58 million off the cost - but I would have say the the £308 estimate was at the higher end of the scale) so I can see Ulster GAA looking at carrying serious debt and paying serious interest for a good few decades to come.
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
June 10, 2024, 08:40:06 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 10, 2024, 12:26:58 AM
Quote from: SHEEDY on June 09, 2024, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 09, 2024, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: statto on June 09, 2024, 01:08:00 PMNew York ahead again Laois at HT 1-06 to 8 points and full value for it.

Laois win by four points. Just three points for New York 2nd half did they run out of juice? 
New York will be kicking themselves, the game was there for them, they hit some really bad wides in the second half, missed a glorious goal chance when the match was level and then Laois scored a goal of their own in the next attack.
They definitely seemed to run out of steam in last 15 minutes.

Should have scored or laid off the ball to the unmarked player.



Nightmarish miss - in addition to being off target he didn't even get a decent contact on the kick and it skewed away completely.
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: AFL Invasion
June 05, 2024, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 05, 2024, 05:38:39 PMNot the most suitable time to be holding trials. Players should be allowed to focus fully on their championship matches.

I don't think the AFL teams care all that much about the championship matches.

It's not as if there's any obligation on the players to attend the trials.
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: AFL Invasion
June 05, 2024, 05:35:05 PM
QuoteKerry, Roscommon and Tyrone prospects all on AFL radar

It is understood Kerry U20 defender Charlie Keating, who helped his side to the All-Ireland final, is on the radar of Carlton and has already met with club representatives

WED, 05 JUN, 2024 - 14:48
MAURICE BROSNAN

Prospects from Kerry, Roscommon and Tyrone are attracting interest from AFL clubs as another offseason of Irish signings approaches.

It is understood Kerry U20 defender Charlie Keating, who helped his side to the All-Ireland final, is on the radar of Carlton and has already met with club representatives. Keating was named Munster U20 Player of the Year this season.

Man of the Match in the decider, Eoin McElholm, is another notable talent. McElholm was invited to Melbourne last October with Down's Odhran Murdock, Galway's James McLaughlin and Cork's Conor Corbett for two weeks to visit AFL clubs and test alongside Australian prospects. He is one of four players to join the senior setup after their recent success.

Meanwhile, The Irish Examiner also understands Carlton scouts met with Roscommon forward Daire Cregg. The rising Boyle star kicked 0-9 in the Sigerson Cup final for UCD and scored 0-4 in his last two games against Dublin and Mayo in the Sam Maguire SFC series.

It comes amidst a wave of renewed interest in Irish players. Kerry's Rob Monahan, Longford's Matt Duffy, Cork's Liam O'Connell and Monaghan's Karl Gallagher all made the move in the recent offseason. Brisbane Lions representatives are currently in the country meeting with players. A trial session is scheduled to take place in Dublin this week with a host of young players invited to partake.

It was reported last December that the AFL was due to cease funding for talent camps in Ireland. However, in March clubs were informed at the AFL's headquarters in Melbourne that the funding was back on.

In April, Carlton sent a crew that included the club boss Nick Austin, national recruiting manager Mick Agresta, footy director and club legend Greg Williams to Dublin. AFLW boss Ash Naulty also made the trip. Geelong AFLW coach Dan Lowther also travelled to meet current and future players.

9News reported that Carlton had launched a three-year strategic plan to draft players through non-traditional means. Ireland is set to be a big part of that $400,000 per year investment.

There are currently 13 Irish players in the AFL.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41409974.html?utm_source=irishexaminer&utm_campaign=41409974&utm_medium=sportnewsletter
#14
Quote from: armaghniac on June 04, 2024, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 04, 2024, 02:59:33 PMSunday June 16th

Portlaoise, 3pm: Kerry v Louth

Breffni Park, 3pm: Monaghan v Meath (GAAGO)

Monaghan and Meath getting it handy.

Powers that be wanted to make it as easy as possible for those supporters who do travel given both teams's results this year I'd imagine.

Bit disappointed that the Kerry v Louth game isn't being shown on GAAGo - was interested to see if Louth could make it as difficult for Kerry as they did for Dublin, especially given how easy they had it against Monaghan and Meath.
#15
Quote from: Snapchap on June 03, 2024, 02:56:15 PMTaliteann Cup clash of Waterford V Longford had an attendance figure of 75. That's not a typo.

Know a father of one of the players on the Waterford panel. He was at it yesterday.
Last time I was talking to him he did say the Tailteann cup has improved things in terms of players being willing to commit to football and the regular games. However in Waterford their footballers are fighing a battle in terms of the Waterford County Board. A lot of them wish they could do a Kilkenny and not compete in football at all.

Count me in as another who thinks a three-tier championship would make much more sense but I fear that the GAA politics of getting it passed would be close to almost impossible any time soon.