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Title: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2023, 01:41:27 PM
Who will survive ?
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2023, 01:53:51 PM
Roscommon
Galway
Mayowestros
Dublin
Derry
Kerry
Armagh
Tyrone.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: RedHand88 on May 27, 2023, 09:49:52 PM
Tell me Im mad for thinking Cork will get a result against Kerry and qualify.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 27, 2023, 11:34:07 PM
Def a mad Tyrone man, there are many lol
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: David McKeown on May 28, 2023, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 27, 2023, 09:49:52 PM
Tell me Im mad for thinking Cork will get a result against Kerry and qualify.

That may get them into the last 12 but they'd need one more win to make the last 8.  Not sure its madness that they wouldn't win another game though
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Heshs Umpire on May 28, 2023, 10:17:03 PM
Mayo
Kerry
Dublin
Roscommon
Galway
Tyrone
Derry
Monaghan
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: clarshack on May 28, 2023, 10:58:26 PM
I'm not sure Tyrone will make it.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: NotedObserver on May 28, 2023, 11:22:45 PM
Donegal to top the group?
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: naka on May 28, 2023, 11:37:43 PM
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2023, 10:58:26 PM
I'm not sure Tyrone will make it.
Agreed, think Tyrone might be the ones who drop out
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: armaghniac on May 28, 2023, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Heshs Umpire on May 28, 2023, 10:17:03 PM
Mayo
Kerry
Dublin
Roscommon
Galway
Tyrone
Derry
Monaghan

Which is the 2024 league div 1 appropriately enough.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: RedHand88 on May 28, 2023, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 28, 2023, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Heshs Umpire on May 28, 2023, 10:17:03 PM
Mayo
Kerry
Dublin
Roscommon
Galway
Tyrone
Derry
Monaghan

Which is the 2024 league div 1 appropriately enough.

The system works.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?

Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: yellowcard on May 29, 2023, 02:24:40 PM
Seems like a pointless exercise picking quarter finalists when we don't yet know the draw. But either way its a hell of a lot of matches to play in order to reduce from 16 down to 8 teams and which will be largely predictable in any case. 
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2023, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?

Will be a draw latter on for the All Ireland semi finals.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?


Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.

Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Rossfan on May 29, 2023, 03:17:40 PM
Isn't it repeat Provincial FINALS that's not allowed?
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?


Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.

Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.

That's what in the rule book for the semi-final
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: joemamas on May 29, 2023, 05:21:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?


Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.

Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.

That's what in the rule book for the semi-final

My understanding for the Q/Finals is that all group winners in one hat, remaining four in other.
you cannot play a team from your own group in the Q/finals. i.e. Mayo if the win their group, cannot be drawn to play Kerry in Q/finals if they are one of the four non group winners.
Semi-final is an open draw, that is correct.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: inroundthesquare on May 29, 2023, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 29, 2023, 02:24:40 PM
Seems like a pointless exercise picking quarter finalists when we don't yet know the draw. But either way its a hell of a lot of matches to play in order to reduce from 16 down to 8 teams and which will be largely predictable in any case.

There will be 16 teams left in the Championship on 17th June
15 days later (2nd July), there will be 4 teams left in the Championship

Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 30, 2023, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 29, 2023, 02:24:40 PM
Seems like a pointless exercise picking quarter finalists when we don't yet know the draw. But either way its a hell of a lot of matches to play in order to reduce from 16 down to 8 teams and which will be largely predictable in any case.

They play 38 games in English premier league and in most seasons you could predict 3 out of the top 4 and 2 out of the bottom 3 at the start of the year.

3/4 games for each team to get from 16 to 8 isn't exactly a hell of a lot of games. I'd have more issue with the overall format - they need to link the league and championship and put provincials on earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: twohands!!! on May 30, 2023, 11:06:11 AM
Quote from: joemamas on May 29, 2023, 05:21:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.
Is the semi final draw made?


Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.

Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.

That's what in the rule book for the semi-final

My understanding for the Q/Finals is that all group winners in one hat, remaining four in other.
you cannot play a team from your own group in the Q/finals. i.e. Mayo if the win their group, cannot be drawn to play Kerry in Q/finals if they are one of the four non group winners.
Semi-final is an open draw, that is correct.

It's the same rule for the Q/Finals and the preliminary Q/Finals.

In both these rounds, teams who have met in the provincial finals [finals only - not all provincial matches]can't be drawn against each other and if possible, games between teams from the same group will be avoided.

The chances of there being a situation whereby a team might have to play a team it already played in the group stages are very remote but could technically happen if there are absolute freak results. However the reality is the odds of playing a team already played at the group stages are very small.

The preliminary quarter finals it will be four games where a team who finished 2nd playing at home against a team who finished 3rd subject to the rules above relating to rematches.
The quarter finals will be the four games between a group winner and the winner of a preliminary quarter-final subject to the rules above in relation to rematches.

Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: mad tan on May 30, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 29, 2023, 02:24:40 PM
Seems like a pointless exercise picking quarter finalists when we don't yet know the draw. But either way its a hell of a lot of matches to play in order to reduce from 16 down to 8 teams and which will be largely predictable in any case.

Agree with You but maybe they [ the Blazers or do the Gaa have them ] will get it right next year.
Title: Re: Name your quarterfinalists
Post by: Rossfan on May 30, 2023, 05:50:24 PM
"Blazers" will have to put any new "right" proposal to Congress first.