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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2100 on: March 14, 2023, 11:27:47 PM »
What you say actually confirms what I said. There isn't the appetite in the traditional football clubs for hurling because there are not enough "hurling people" in these clubs. The football people don't care enough to try to develop it further and while I can't speak for all clubs I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone actively try to prevent hurling. It's not protests which kill hurling in the football areas but more apathy. Its the same as football in hurling areas. Unless a hurling person "blows in" to a football area or vice versa then it'll never start up much less grow. I love hurling but am from a football area. My young fella brings his hurl to school cos I almost bully him to but he himself has said there's more of the lads playing football so he'll l play that with his club

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« Reply #2101 on: March 15, 2023, 04:00:25 PM »
I didn't say there isn't appetite. There may be appetite in certain places but football focused club executives can gently persuade those people that it's not worth the hassle. Before they even find out if there is fuel for the fire, they put it out.

Are there underage hurling teams in your sons club?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2102 on: March 16, 2023, 04:28:09 PM »
There is indeed an underage setup but no adult. He doesn't play with the club as he prefers football....... Football area

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« Reply #2103 on: March 20, 2023, 01:35:37 PM »
What you say actually confirms what I said. There isn't the appetite in the traditional football clubs for hurling because there are not enough "hurling people" in these clubs. The football people don't care enough to try to develop it further and while I can't speak for all clubs I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone actively try to prevent hurling. It's not protests which kill hurling in the football areas but more apathy. Its the same as football in hurling areas. Unless a hurling person "blows in" to a football area or vice versa then it'll never start up much less grow. I love hurling but am from a football area. My young fella brings his hurl to school cos I almost bully him to but he himself has said there's more of the lads playing football so he'll l play that with his club

Most Hurling Clubs play Football at Juvenile and at some level at Adult Level

Football Clubs bar 1 or 2 exceptions dont play any Hurling whatsoever

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« Reply #2104 on: March 20, 2023, 05:20:11 PM »
What you say actually confirms what I said. There isn't the appetite in the traditional football clubs for hurling because there are not enough "hurling people" in these clubs. The football people don't care enough to try to develop it further and while I can't speak for all clubs I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone actively try to prevent hurling. It's not protests which kill hurling in the football areas but more apathy. Its the same as football in hurling areas. Unless a hurling person "blows in" to a football area or vice versa then it'll never start up much less grow. I love hurling but am from a football area. My young fella brings his hurl to school cos I almost bully him to but he himself has said there's more of the lads playing football so he'll l play that with his club

Most Hurling Clubs play Football at Juvenile and at some level at Adult Level

Football Clubs bar 1 or 2 exceptions dont play any Hurling whatsoever

This is true and we often have club officers tell us that "this is a 'football' area" and decide that nobody in the area wants to play hurling. An example would be if hurling coaching was offered to a primary school through a GDA. Often a club officer would say 'ah there wouldn't be any interest in that here.' So a 50-60 Yr old club officer decides that a whole class/school has no interest in hurling without even letting them try it or asking them. This happens. If you think otherwise you are naive.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2105 on: March 20, 2023, 05:46:02 PM »
There is indeed an underage setup but no adult. He doesn't play with the club as he prefers football....... Football area

and theres the mentality and root of the problem right there

its like as if parts of the county are walled off to hurling

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« Reply #2106 on: March 21, 2023, 11:03:12 AM »
But sure its true. There are distinct football and hurling areas.in Laois and people on here saying that football clubs should be pushing hurling at underage are living in a dreamworld. If the appetite is there then of course let kids play hurling but to say that there's suddenly going the be a big uptake of hurling in stradbally or ballylinan is just wrong no more than saying that Ballacolla are suddenly going to be a football superpower. Kids will pick whatever sport is big in a certain area and to excell at a sport then sometimes clubs and players just have to concentrate on one

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2107 on: March 21, 2023, 11:20:05 AM »
But sure its true. There are distinct football and hurling areas.in Laois and people on here saying that football clubs should be pushing hurling at underage are living in a dreamworld. If the appetite is there then of course let kids play hurling but to say that there's suddenly going the be a big uptake of hurling in stradbally or ballylinan is just wrong no more than saying that Ballacolla are suddenly going to be a football superpower. Kids will pick whatever sport is big in a certain area and to excell at a sport then sometimes clubs and players just have to concentrate on one

all the Hurling Clubs have Football Teams at varying levels but at the least they do play Football

Can the same be said for Stradbally or Josephs or the vast vast majority of the "Football" Clubs?

Should the Hurling Clubs do as you say then and boot out football completely and concentrate solely on Hurling?


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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2108 on: March 30, 2023, 06:06:58 PM »
Best of luck to the U20 hurlers tomorrow night Kildare. Not a bad team on paper but it won't be easy get a win kildare are a good outfit.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2109 on: March 31, 2023, 09:19:43 PM »
Good win for the U20s tonight well done.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2110 on: April 03, 2023, 11:17:24 AM »
I couldn't get to it but Christ that was an awful hammering for our minors. I know Galway are good but 30 points is a desperate beating.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2111 on: April 03, 2023, 01:54:04 PM »
Good chance the minors will lose to Antrim next weekend, too, and if I'm not mistaken, that'll leave them out of the championship altogether by Easter! Between the two games, 21 different players have started - and very few of them in the same position. Maybe they know their best 15 for the Antrim game.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2112 on: April 03, 2023, 08:16:34 PM »
We are gone so far backward in the last few years at academy squad level, minor down, with last year being an exceptional minor team.

Itís back to the days of lads who canít get a job in the clubs putting their hand up for academy coaching roles, being left without any guidance and picking their club players,

No pathway or targets being set or delivered, we desperately need a good director of hurling with vision and knowledge of how to deliver, is this the hurling boards job to implement / deliver ?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2113 on: April 04, 2023, 12:17:32 PM »
not sure wat it says wen our minor manager is doin tv commentries for u20 football games in the middle o championship.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #2114 on: April 04, 2023, 12:35:03 PM »
not sure wat it says wen our minor manager is doin tv commentries for u20 football games in the middle o championship.

Did he miss any of his commitments (training sessions or matches) to the minor team? If not, he is a volunteer (who puts huge time into the minor hurlers) he is entitled to spend his free time any way he chooses. A ridiculous,  personal  and petty comment.