The future of laois hurling

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Laois man

Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

burdizzo

Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Yes. It didn't go that well.

Zooming around

Quote from: Zooming around on March 03, 2023, 09:13:23 AM
Shocking news from Trumera. God rest the poor chap.

One of the most difficult funerals I have ever been at. Heartbreaking.

clonadmad

Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Limerick arrived with 2 teams and split them more or less evenly according to their mentors

Laois A conceded 7/8/9 goals in the first half alone

Laois B got an absolute trimming

Huge disparity in terms of coaching set up,warms up and organisation

Laois minors played the Clare celtic challenge team last week,competitive but beaten also

Laois minors are due to play Tipperary minors this Tuesday

Zooming around

Quote from: clonadmad on March 06, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Limerick arrived with 2 teams and split them more or less evenly according to their mentors

Laois A conceded 7/8/9 goals in the first half alone

Laois B got an absolute trimming

Huge disparity in terms of coaching set up,warms up and organisation

Laois minors played the Clare celtic challenge team last week,competitive but beaten also

Laois minors are due to play Tipperary minors this Tuesday


It was a bit silly to go play Limerick. A quick scan of last year's results would have shown that there is simply way too much between the teams to make a "challenge" out of it.

clonadmad

Quote from: Zooming around on March 07, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 06, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Limerick arrived with 2 teams and split them more or less evenly according to their mentors

Laois A conceded 7/8/9 goals in the first half alone

Laois B got an absolute trimming

Huge disparity in terms of coaching set up,warms up and organisation

Laois minors played the Clare celtic challenge team last week,competitive but beaten also

Laois minors are due to play Tipperary minors this Tuesday


It was a bit silly to go play Limerick. A quick scan of last year's results would have shown that there is simply way too much between the teams to make a "challenge" out of it.

Agreed

but its hard to know what county this group would beat given where they are at.

I hope Im very wrong but the 2022 Minors will be regarded as the golden year for many years to come

Zooming around

Quote from: clonadmad on March 07, 2023, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on March 07, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 06, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Limerick arrived with 2 teams and split them more or less evenly according to their mentors

Laois A conceded 7/8/9 goals in the first half alone

Laois B got an absolute trimming

Huge disparity in terms of coaching set up,warms up and organisation

Laois minors played the Clare celtic challenge team last week,competitive but beaten also

Laois minors are due to play Tipperary minors this Tuesday


It was a bit silly to go play Limerick. A quick scan of last year's results would have shown that there is simply way too much between the teams to make a "challenge" out of it.

Agreed

but its hard to know what county this group would beat given where they are at.

I hope Im very wrong but the 2022 Minors will be regarded as the golden year for many years to come


We're back in the Kildare, Westmeath, Kerry, Carlow group for challege games with our squads it seems.

clonadmad

LAOIS MINOR HURLING PANEL 2023 
Eoghan Murphy (The Harps) – Captain
Justin Duggan (The Harps)
Mark Downey (The Harps)
Donal Deegan (The Harps)
Cormac Dunne (The Harps)
Ethan Lafferty (The Harps)
Lochlan Curran (The Harps)

Raymond Goode (Castletown)
Ryan Peters (Castletown) – Vice Captain
Kyron Cuddy (Castletown)
Killian Breen (Castletown)

Eli Quinn (Abbeyleix)
Cormac Byrne (Abbeyleix) – Vice-Captain
Riain Mahony (Abbeyleix)

Caelum O'Brien (Mountrath)
Cian Hill (Mountrath)
Ruaidhri Kavanagh (Mountrath)

Rick Bannon (Camross)
Conor Mortimer (Camross)

Evan Cassin (Clough-Ballacolla)
Colm Brennan (Clough-Ballacolla)

Lorcan Dunne (Rathdowney-Errill)
Eoin Bracken (Rathdowney-Errill)

David Brown (Portlaoise)

Patrick O'Callaghan (Clonad)
Liam Whelan (Clonad)

Jordan Downey (Portarlington)
Conor Maher (Portarlington)

Sam Somers (Rosenallis)
Oran Gorman (Rosenallis)

Jimmy Norton (Park-Ratheniska-Timahoe)

Charlie Hand (Emo)

Shane Connolly (Ballyfin)

Ben O'Mara (Ballinakill)

Spiritof1915

Quote from: clonadmad on March 07, 2023, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on March 07, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 06, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2023, 11:40:32 PM
Were laois U15s hurling Limerick over the weekend?

Limerick arrived with 2 teams and split them more or less evenly according to their mentors

Laois A conceded 7/8/9 goals in the first half alone

Laois B got an absolute trimming

Huge disparity in terms of coaching set up,warms up and organisation

Laois minors played the Clare celtic challenge team last week,competitive but beaten also

Laois minors are due to play Tipperary minors this Tuesday


It was a bit silly to go play Limerick. A quick scan of last year's results would have shown that there is simply way too much between the teams to make a "challenge" out of it.

Agreed

but its hard to know what county this group would beat given where they are at.

I hope Im very wrong but the 2022 Minors will be regarded as the golden year for many years to come
Your definitely not wrong. The development teams of last year and this year are poorly run with no proper structures or long term planning in place. We're only ticking boxes. No proper investment and now no required amount of gdo,s.

mcwregor

The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap

clonadmad

Quote from: mcwregor on March 08, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap

There's no need for a shift in focus

What's needed is to focus across all the grades and not downgrade or throw out one group of hurlers over another

The CB in the last 2 years ran a surplus of close to €900k,use some of it but also get organised and work smart

Some of the story's coming out of the development squads are barely believable from an organisational viewpoint

If true

Sideline12

Quote from: mcwregor on March 08, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap
I agree 100%  plus our young footballer as well.

mcwregor

Quote from: clonadmad on March 09, 2023, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: mcwregor on March 08, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap

There's no need for a shift in focus

What's needed is to focus across all the grades and not downgrade or throw out one group of hurlers over another

The CB in the last 2 years ran a surplus of close to €900k,use some of it but also get organised and work smart

Some of the story's coming out of the development squads are barely believable from an organisational viewpoint

If true

If we do as you say, nothing will change
Drastic overhaul is required

clonadmad

Quote from: mcwregor on March 09, 2023, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 09, 2023, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: mcwregor on March 08, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap

There's no need for a shift in focus

What's needed is to focus across all the grades and not downgrade or throw out one group of hurlers over another

The CB in the last 2 years ran a surplus of close to €900k,use some of it but also get organised and work smart

Some of the story's coming out of the development squads are barely believable from an organisational viewpoint

If true

If we do as you say, nothing will change
Drastic overhaul is required

Tell us what you would do then?

blueandwhite1

Quote from: clonadmad on March 10, 2023, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: mcwregor on March 09, 2023, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 09, 2023, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: mcwregor on March 08, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
The setanta programme and the development squads should become the most important teams in the county for the next 10 years. See what happens, its time to try something different. Laois people would be happy with a good minor or u20 team to follow rather than watch our seniors being hammered. How many thousands turned up to watch our minors last year compared to some senior games.
There needs to be a shift in focus asap

There's no need for a shift in focus

What's needed is to focus across all the grades and not downgrade or throw out one group of hurlers over another

The CB in the last 2 years ran a surplus of close to €900k,use some of it but also get organised and work smart

Some of the story's coming out of the development squads are barely believable from an organisational viewpoint

If true

If we do as you say, nothing will change
Drastic overhaul is required

Tell us what you would do then?

I don't think it is massive. Need to put the money into high class coaching in the clubs. Pay suitable people to build standards and inspire our kids. Make the jobs financially attractive but based on a renewable term based on standards. We always talk about S&C etc which is important but unless you have the raw material it is pointless. County level GDAs don't work. The current model in Laois is to rely on parents, who are doing their best, to bring on our kids and we then expect the development panels / minor setups etc. to do the rest.