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[McGeeney said the truth is in the referee's report]

These posts are almost satirical. Between this forum and one other I've 'heard' four different accounts of what McGeeney is 'rumoured' to have said to the linesman and/or the referee. That's a lot of misinformation. Yet the people questioning the details of this issue are the 'muppets' who should 'take a hard look at themselves'.

Your point is articulate and well made, but unfortunately you're wasting your time. What you're dealing with here are bitter, small minded individuals who cannot debate these things in a reasonable manner without that bitterness coming through. Reasoned debate - as your post alluded to - is all but impossible.

You should appeal for calm on the armagh gaa forum. Some disgraceful comments and very few reasoned ones. Completely lost the run of ourselves if that is representative

I think most of it is in jest. As you say no one knows the truth. In the heat of the moment I would doubt even the 2 involved hand on heart could be sure what was said.

We do know the truth as it stands now. McGeeney said the truth is in the referee's report and if the ref stands by it  then it remains the truth.
We give the referees the authority and we trust them to make an honest report.
Joe McQuillan is the top ref in Ulster and one of the best in the country, therefore I would expect that a high degree of integrity is one of his qualities.

McGeeney said the truth is in the referee's report:  Please give us your source for this.

we trust them to make an honest report: Personal experience would confirm for me that this is not always the case and another poster, Mup, has given his experience that this is not the case.  http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27853.msg1691212#msg1691212

Joe McQuillan is the top ref McQuillan wasn't the referee, it was an inexperienced colleague who had lost control of the game.

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Voting share calculated on the votes received as a percentage of the votes within a line on the field.

GK   Stephen Cluxton 84%
     
FB   Marc O'Se 23%
FB   Seamus Moynihan 13%
FB   Karl Lacey 14%
     
HB   Tomas O'Se 38%
HB   Kieran McGeeney 11%
HB   Lee Keegan 21%
     
MF   Darragh O'Se 43%
MF   Sean   Cavanagh 20%
     
HF   Diarmuid Connolly 17%
HF   Ciaran McDonald 11%
HF   Declan O'Sullivan 17%
     
FF   Colm   Cooper 29%
FF   Peter   Canavan 13%
FF   Steven McDonnell 12%

Subs

GK   Paul Durcan 4%
 
FB   Keith Higgins 12%
FB   Barry Owens  12%
     
HB   Philip Jordan 11%
HB   Cain O'Sullivan 10%
     
MF   M Murphy 14%
     
HF   Brian Dooher 9%
HF   Oisin McConville 8%
     
FF   Stephen O'Neill 10%
FF   Pádraic Joyce 9%
FF   Bernard Brogan 8%

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GK   Stephen Cluxton
      
FB   Marc O'Se
FB   Seamus Moynihan
FB   Karl Lacey
      
HB   Tomas O'Se
HB   Kieran McGeeney
HB   Lee Keegan
      
MF   Darragh O'Se
MF   Sean   Cavanagh
      
HF   Diarmuid Connolly
HF   Ciaran McDonald
HF   Declan O'Sullivan
      
FF   Colm   Cooper
FF   Peter   Canavan
FF   Steven McDonnell

Subs

GK   Paul Durcan
      
FB   Keith Higgins
FB   Barry Owens   
      
HB   Philip Jordan
HB   Cain O'Sullivan
      
MF   M Murphy
      
HF   Brian Dooher
HF   Oisin McConville   
      
FF   Stephen O'Neil
FF   Pádraic Joyce
FF   Bernard Brogan

Thank you to everyone who contributed a team for the survey.  The results were fairly clear and made relatively straightforward to collate by posters keeping to the required format.

These posts are almost satirical. Between this forum and one other I've 'heard' four different accounts of what McGeeney is 'rumoured' to have said to the linesman and/or the referee. That's a lot of misinformation. Yet the people questioning the details of this issue are the 'muppets' who should 'take a hard look at themselves'.

Your point is articulate and well made, but unfortunately you're wasting your time. What you're dealing with here are bitter, small minded individuals who cannot debate these things in a reasonable manner without that bitterness coming through. Reasoned debate - as your post alluded to - is all but impossible.

You should appeal for calm on the armagh gaa forum. Some disgraceful comments and very few reasoned ones. Completely lost the run of ourselves if that is representative

What? Nobody being banned?

Isn't there also the risk if this is true that there will be some unsuited to teaching or stuck in a job they hate just for GAA purposes. That's a sad situation.

Nail on head

These posts are almost satirical. Between this forum and one other I've 'heard' four different accounts of what McGeeney is 'rumoured' to have said to the linesman and/or the referee. That's a lot of misinformation. Yet the people questioning the details of this issue are the 'muppets' who should 'take a hard look at themselves'.

Your point is articulate and well made, but unfortunately you're wasting your time. What you're dealing with here are bitter, small minded individuals who cannot debate these things in a reasonable manner without that bitterness coming through. Reasoned debate - as your post alluded to - is all but impossible.

+1

I would have agreed with Sean 10 years ago.

Maybe the stats prove he's correct but today I see more women, less GAA male county players.

That's because they are all becoming primary school teachers, that all St Mary's and Stranmillis are turning out these days.  The PGCE courses require 2:1 and first class degrees which more men than women are achieving so the profession is now about 70% female and rising.  The number of men in St Mary's is quite small but enough GAA players to win the Sigerson.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. You can't diagnose people just by looking at them. How can you tell how much pain they're in?

"You know, it's that invisible nature of an illness that people don't understand," says Wayne Connell, the founder and head of the Invisible Disabilities Association. He started the group after his wife was diagnosed with Lyme disease and multiple sclerosis.

"We'd park in disabled parking and she didn't use a wheelchair or a cane, and so people would always give us dirty looks and scream at us," he recalls.

So people live their lives in constant pain or with other terrible conditions, but then have to deal with the double indignity of judgmental abuse from people who neither know what they're talking about nor mind their own business. I don't envy them.

I have an invisible disability as I have fibromyalgia, i.e. chronic muscle pain and debilitating fatigue, but cases like those outlined by Puckoon make me particularly cross because they are fairly obvious examples of people making out that they are ill to gain advantage, ranging from simple queue jumping to those outlined in the court cases above.  Many like me live with our conditions and I would never consider using it to gain an advantage but I do see those using blue badges of relatives or even without blue badges parking in disable bays. 

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/warehouse-worker-withdraws-back-injury-claims-after-photos-emerge-of-him-skiing-and-motorcyling-35663943.html

For those of you of a particular age, this was No.1 in US on this day in 1979:

https://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU

And they're still going 37 years later in 2016:

https://youtu.be/eU3Ia_bvqEc


On tour in 2017.  In London Roundhouse in May and unfortunately with Phil Collins in the Aviva on 25 June or Hyde Park on 30 June 2017.  You always live before Collins comes on stage.

He played caricatures of many Irish stereotypes on TV and has been copied by many including the Hole in the Wall Gang and Brendan O'Carroll. It is important to remember that he would have been the first comedian to transfer from radio to TV in N.Ireland in late 60s and early 70s.  As Tony has stated, his work was put out on vinyl LPs because the VHS was still quite a few years away and manys an old record collection and the Dansette record player left in attics will contain the odd Jimmy Young LP.

Here's a selection of his work that shows the characters he played each week on TV, note all the characters used by the Hole in the Wall Gang 20 years later:

https://youtu.be/pk9V55_cPSg

https://youtu.be/N4PD3Q5NICo

https://youtu.be/abs0_l6r8TA


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Young_(comedian)

[I heard that he threatened the referee.]

I heard that he threatened the referee. He deserves what he got and you Armagh muppets with your victimhood complex should start to look at yourselves instead of blaming referees and whatever else yer having.

Well share your knowledge of what happened and any idea of your source if it wasn't RedHandTom? Perhaps you were at the game and heard and observed what happened?

While you brand Armagh people as 'muppets with a victimhood complex' for questioning what happened, there appears to be a vindictiveness in others who are willing to condemn McGeeney without even a shred of first hand evidence, such hatred of an individual is disturbing.

[No-one gets 12wks for nothing.]

I heard that he threatened the referee. He deserves what he got and you Armagh muppets with your victimhood complex should start to look at yourselves instead of blaming referees and whatever else yer having.

Well said. These people blindly defending McGeeney and blaming everyone accept him should take a hard look at themselves. No-one gets 12wks for nothing. If he actually said what hes rumoured to have said then he deserves every bit of his 12wks!!

Yes you can in the GAA.  Under GAA rules anything written in a referee's report cannot be contradicted even when it is wrong.  Only video evidence can be introduced to attempt to put a counter view but even then the referee's written report always is given a higher standard of evidence.

Well teachers, this is what Cavanagh thinks about teaching as a career.  It is being stated by an accountant.  I wonder what his team mates think about this given how many are either teachers, trainee teachers or going into schools as full time paid coaches.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/its-something-that-frightens-me-sean-cavanagh-says-players-will-regret-sacrificing-careers-for-gaa-35661795.html