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#631
General discussion / Re: WC 2030 Bid
March 03, 2021, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on March 03, 2021, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 03, 2021, 07:56:36 AM
Working a) from the criteria in the OP and b) that 16 locations are needed, currently it would stand at:

London (Wembley)
London (Spurs)
Birmingham (villa)
Manchester (United)
Liverpool (Anfield)
Newcastle (United)

Cardiff (Principality)
Glasgow (Hampden)
Edinburgh (Murrayfield)
Dublin (Croke)

Sunderland makes all of the criteria - but is it really a different city to Newcastle?

With small extensions to capacity or minor exclusions you'd also get:
Leeds
Sheffield

That's 13.

From what I can gather the only major stadium project afoot in the UK is Everton. So 3 locations would have to be found and created.

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Casement might yet be built to host 40k soccer matches. Pairc ui Coaimh is bound to come under the spotlight too - converting it to an all seater would surely have less golden elephants about it than most potential projects.

Would it take much to get the likes of Nottingham Forest ground up to standard? I'm sure there's also a good few others that they could potentially renovate and meet the criteria. Lot of countries build multiple stadiums to host it.

Would imagine the likes of Glasgow and Manchester will have two stadiums while London likely to have three.

2 stadia per city limit
#632
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
February 24, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: five points on February 24, 2021, 04:25:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 24, 2021, 04:01:37 PM
Shows the difference some really poor Politicing makes, the Economic self harm argument remains exactly the same.

Has the EU's vaccination nightmare not punctured a large hole in that argument?

Ni Fully vaccinated 31,000

Republic Fully vaccinated 113,291

I know maths don't tend to be a strong point of Unionism or suit the narrative the likes of Paisley are peddling

But it looks like NI is lagging behind in the number of Fully vaccinated in comparison to the Republic
#633
Quote from: armaghniac on February 19, 2021, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on February 19, 2021, 07:40:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 19, 2021, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on February 19, 2021, 02:51:39 PM
That's the point. Ulster had this figured out in the 50's and 60's, where the Ulster final rotated between the three venues. Ulster needs a Munster solution where the finals can move about. Clones for northern half of Ulster is a bad location, so the vision for Casement is correct. The management of this has been an absolute disaster

It isn't a solution to have several enormous great stadiums only used every 4 or 5 years.
Belfast is not only offside in Ulster but offside in Ireland, there are few neutral games that it would suit.
However, a stadium in Belfast and an somewhat improved Clones for games that it suited would be OK, if they get it done.

An inflatable roof would be a game changer at Casement.

Complains about Stadia in Munster and then wants one with a retractable stadium in Belfast?

You need to go back and do your sums on that one

There is a difference between complaining about multiple stadiums infrequently used and suggesting a way to make one stadium more useful and so used more.
I am not an expert on the cost of the economics of such roofs. But the fact that the Connacht training centre has one suggests that perhaps this technology might be now becoming more affordable.

I see you did a bit of editing and changed it from retractable to inflatable

Still wouldn't be a runner
#634
Quote from: armaghniac on February 19, 2021, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on February 19, 2021, 02:51:39 PM
That's the point. Ulster had this figured out in the 50's and 60's, where the Ulster final rotated between the three venues. Ulster needs a Munster solution where the finals can move about. Clones for northern half of Ulster is a bad location, so the vision for Casement is correct. The management of this has been an absolute disaster

It isn't a solution to have several enormous great stadiums only used every 4 or 5 years.
Belfast is not only offside in Ulster but offside in Ireland, there are few neutral games that it would suit.
However, a stadium in Belfast and an somewhat improved Clones for games that it suited would be OK, if they get it done.

An inflatable roof would be a game changer at Casement.

Complains about Stadia in Munster and then wants one with a retractable stadium in Belfast?

You need to go back and do your sums on that one
#635
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
February 12, 2021, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on February 12, 2021, 03:43:22 PM
It's essentially a subcommittee. It's years since it was a board. Croke Park scrapped those years ago.
It will be interesting to see how much influence he can have.

I think you'll find a lot of counties still have boards in place for both codes or in particular the weaker code in the county.

That's a moot point regardless.

If he can't effect change even on a revenue neutral basis for hurling,who does.

It's interesting to compare and contrast with our friends in Offaly what's going on under Duignans albeit full CB Chairmanship

Hundreds of thousands raised with the help of Shane Lowry for the Faithfull Fields

Planning in place for another 4 GDA's

6 GPO positions being laid out,2 attaches to clubs already with another one to be shared between 2 clubs shortly
#636
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
February 12, 2021, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on February 12, 2021, 12:25:45 PM
I don't think the argument is whether these things should happen.
It's whether it falls under the remit of this position. It's open to interpretation.

You appeared to disagree with my suggestion that it was an improvement?

I think anything would be an improvement as to what's gone before tbh

I presume the hurling board chairman would be responsible for all hurling in the county and act as a catalyst for change and improvements

Your saying the role is limited

How limited is it?

What can he do?

And more importantly what can't he do?
#637
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
February 12, 2021, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on February 12, 2021, 11:38:23 AM
Oh go on. Tell us why it isn't.
Has he not been studying the North Tipp Under 6 league structure and how they have consistently produced the best of 7 & 8 year olds in the country?

I'll give you a few reasons.
1) 
He has on occasion (and on sensible matters) challenged both Laois GAA and the higher GAA authorities (through the forum of Laois GAA meetings).
This, to me, gives the impression that he is at least as focused on these matters as he is on climbing the greasy pole that is the world of GAA hierarchy. That hasn't always been the case.

2)
He also has seen how hurling in the county functions (or doesn't) from the viewpoint of club player, club administrator, club manager, county underage manager, county board delegate etc. That's a well rounded experience to bring to the table.

3)
He is not a county board "lifer".

I'm not his campaign manager. He should be open to criticism like everybody else. But if I was somebody like Cheddar, I'd rather be dealing with this kind of person than somebody who is desperate to stay in with the CB executive.

Having said all that, the role is extremely limited in scope.

Comprehensive answer even if you couldn't let it pass without the laughable dig at u6's in Tipperary

I'd disagree with you in relation to the scope of the role and it being limited,there's a whole load of areas that can be improved upon within the county which have been discussed ad nauseam here.

Offaly for one have gotten their act together in the last 2/3 years across a number of different areas,there's a sense here that we are static.

I could outline them but then I'd accused of being an Offaly man

I wish him well in his role
#638
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
February 12, 2021, 11:21:11 AM
#639
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
February 04, 2021, 09:17:10 AM
Even when Limerick was under the cosh from Rugby,they had a strong infrastructure of primary school competitions for kids of all ages even it seems a divisional competition and that's before you get to post primary level.

It's a pity Laois can't seem to do likewise,even with the Cumman na mBunscoil,we have just the one completion whereas a lot of counties would have 2 age grades.

https://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/william-o-donoghue-moulded-by-formative-years/
#640
Quote from: skeog on February 01, 2021, 11:00:50 AM
Met a man over the weekend staunch republican who was given the jab on friday got 200 on thursday extra told me he would be thinking carefully about the vote.If it affected his income he said he would be staying put regardless.

I think you need to break the news to him that he's a Unionist or an economic unionist at the very least


Is he one of the whad about mai benefits brigade?
#641
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2021, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 30, 2021, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2021, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 30, 2021, 01:12:29 PM
Theres more foreign born people living on the island of Ireland than Unionists

Thats the reality

I know a lot of the northern cohort on here suffer from stockholm syndrome and want to give a lot more than what their actual numbers suggest

Are we really going to have 800k out of a 6m population expecting near paruty when it comes to the panaphenalia of the new state?

If there's a UI in the morning, unionists aren't just going to shrug and say "oh alright then". We will likely see another troubles period. Loyalists were armed and ready to fight 100+ years ago if there was a 32 county republic. I'd expect to see similar in the event of a successful border poll. Does anyone want to go back to that? So maybe a few concessions here and there might be something that will be needed to sweeten the deal. But I doubt even that will work.

But if you want your UI, expect trouble. And a lot of it, for maybe a long time. If you think loyalists won't kick up a stir, you're seriously naive.

Do you really think a few sweetners is going to stop them causing the havoc that you think they will?.

if any UI is going to take place there will have to be co sponsorship of it by the british,the americans and the EU.

Im really interested to know who will be supplying the weaponry in that case.

No it won't. But sweeteners will be proffered.

I don't think it'll matter who sponsors this UI. Unionists won't want to know.

Theres a big difference between Unionists not wanting to know and  your earlier claim of loyalists creating trouble,a lot of it

Im interested to hear how loyalists would be able to lay hands on weapons to cause any level of trouble given the british would be co-guarantors of any UI agreement.

Dont forget the Irish government cracked down fairly hard on Republicans and the IRA since the foundation of the state when they threatened the existence of the state.
#642
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
January 30, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: steven seagal on January 30, 2021, 04:03:32 PM
QuoteIt's amazing to think that last year's management got slated for the loss to Offaly, yet the one part of that management most responsible is still part of the new management. His stupid playing style completely restricted a talented bunch who had done well up to him getting involved. He completely changed their style of play with backs trying to attack and good scoring forwards playing as sweepers instead of letting them play their natural game. The only thing he has achieved with this bunch is to turn a 52 point win over Offaly into a big loss. A complete disaster and he should have been fucked out on his ear. If he's that good why do lads who refused to hurl for Waterford under him continue to return to the panel now. A quick listen to him on the Sunday Game confirms what he really is, a complete bluffer.

God aren't we terrible unlucky in Laois, we go and get a fella in who has won two Harty Cups, two All-Ireland Colleges titles, a National League title and who brought a team to an All-Ireland final, only for it turn out he actually doesn't know anything about hurling and is a complete bluffer. Gosh, what poor luck for us.

Given the management team we now have on board

What does everyone on here thiink success looks like for this minor squad and management

Leinster final appearence?

Winning one game

Beating offaly?

Beating wex/kk/dublin?

Winning a game
#643
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2021, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 30, 2021, 01:12:29 PM
Theres more foreign born people living on the island of Ireland than Unionists

Thats the reality

I know a lot of the northern cohort on here suffer from stockholm syndrome and want to give a lot more than what their actual numbers suggest

Are we really going to have 800k out of a 6m population expecting near paruty when it comes to the panaphenalia of the new state?

If there's a UI in the morning, unionists aren't just going to shrug and say "oh alright then". We will likely see another troubles period. Loyalists were armed and ready to fight 100+ years ago if there was a 32 county republic. I'd expect to see similar in the event of a successful border poll. Does anyone want to go back to that? So maybe a few concessions here and there might be something that will be needed to sweeten the deal. But I doubt even that will work.

But if you want your UI, expect trouble. And a lot of it, for maybe a long time. If you think loyalists won't kick up a stir, you're seriously naive.

Do you really think a few sweetners is going to stop them causing the havoc that you think they will?.

if any UI is going to take place there will have to be co sponsorship of it by the british,the americans and the EU.

Im really interested to know who will be supplying the weaponry in that case.
#644
Theres more foreign born people living on the island of Ireland than Unionists

Thats the reality

I know a lot of the northern cohort on here suffer from stockholm syndrome and want to give a lot more than what their actual numbers suggest

Are we really going to have 800k out of a 6m population expecting near parity when it comes to the panaphenalia of the new state?
#645
Quote from: five points on January 28, 2021, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 28, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 28, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Figures from Irish News
Waiting for OP appointment 6 Cos 300,000
Waiting for operation/procedure c100,000

Figures from NTPF for 26 at 31/12/20.
Waiting for OP appt 613,000
Waiting for procedure 63,000

By the end of the pandemic or the current wave at least I'd suspect we can add 10% to those.

So with 36% of the population of the Republic

Pro Rata

The NI NHS should have 220,000 on waiting lists  appointments ,instead it has 80,00 more at 300,000

And it should have 36,000 waiting on procedures instead it has nearly double at 63,000

And we being told alll along that the Nordie health care was something to be looked up to !!!!!

The ROI waiting lists are routinely fiddled. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/are-patient-waiting-lists-shrinking-for-the-right-reasons-1.4147197

The same may also be happening up north.

I was expecting the NI numbers to be 20% at the very worst of what they are

Given all the guff we hear about how great the NHS is