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Just looking at this weeks Tyrone/Ulster herald about the senior teamj you d think every thing was rosey in the garden and "Mickey has a bit of work to do but he will get it right yet" bullshit. Frank Rodgers and big packie would need to wake up and stop sitting on the fence. Unfortunately in Tyrone theres too many loyal to the man and not the county! They wouldn't have it in Kerry nor Dublin so why here?

i think the Ridiculing of Harte should ease off... i not a fan...but the man should be given the rest of the championship and i will judge were we are then...he overseen 3 All Ireland wins... I watched Tyrone 70's 80's and 90's and i thought i would never 1 great day in september never mind 3.....so for the time being dont forget the memories and go easier on the present....

would have been hard not to win an All Ireland with those players

Not sure many other men than Mickey Harte would have got Tyrone across the line. There was a great team in the mid-90"s too, no Sam Maguire then.

lets just cast our minds back too 2001 and 2002, the years prior to Mickey Harte getting the Tyrone job. In 2001 Tyrone were playing great football with a young eoin mulligan kicking a big score v the dubs in Parnell park while on course to winning a very first national title and then bang they were put out of the competition because of the foot and mouth crisis. Unreal! Of course they went on to win Ulster and beat Armagh on the way. Having played Derry and beating them already in the Ulster semi final they had too play them again in the All Ireland quarter final which was a bit sickening to say the least and were subsequently defeated by a fired up Derry team. 2002 they won the league for the first time(well done Art/Eugene) playing class football. The Sligo match was a case of taking their eye off the ball. It was right and proper Mickey Harte was afforded the chance to take Tyrone in 2003, but no mistake about it Tyrone were gonna win an All Ireland that year for it didn't matter who was gonna be there!! Mickey stated later on their was not much tactics went into Tyrone, he just trusted the players to go out and do their stuff. Lets not get too carried about the manager please. Tyrone in the 1990s did NOT have a great team. Certainly they had one unbelievable footballer who done the job of a black taxi alright!

All Ireland's don't just happen. No team just wins a championship. If you believe this then seriously you must have literally no experience of competitive sport at any level. And even if your nonsense was correct and maybe, just maybe you win one All Ireland, you definitely don't win three. So make your point about what's happening today, there are plenty who agree, but it's utter nonsense to claim Mickey wasn't a key component in 2003, 2005 and 2008.

well you can just win a championship cos generally that's what teams do when they win a championship! Lol. I do worry about todays Tyrone and the 2000 days before it lol

Lots of players where excelling and never got call ups.. The reason Ricey got it was because Canavan went to Harte and advised him to call him up!! Yes he completly justified it and was a great player before and after the call up but who's to say Harte would have called him up!! Many great players down the years and even present havent got a call up

Ricey was already there before Harte got the job. His debut was in 2002.

2001 ricey was half back on the Ulster winning team and lets not forget when Mickey dropped him for the championship 03 in favour of Mickey McGee who was destroyed by paddy Bradley! The ironic thing is on riceys laochra gael tribute who was stuck on the screen talking about him? Mickey and Mark harte ffs lol!!People on here are quick to rewrite history!

You are wrong again... It was Canavan who got Ricey into the panel back then after roasting him in the club championship.

Your full of shit and sooner you leave the better

blah blah blah canavan a selector? What a f**king moron
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So a team embarrassed in the 4th round of the qualifiers by Sligo were certainly for the all Ireland the following year? Total bullshit and I'd say you know that yourself.

bullshit yourself. Don't tell me what I know and think. Well done Art and Eugene for recognizing Ryan McMenamin as a talent when others didn't.

i think the Ridiculing of Harte should ease off... i not a fan...but the man should be given the rest of the championship and i will judge were we are then...he overseen 3 All Ireland wins... I watched Tyrone 70's 80's and 90's and i thought i would never 1 great day in september never mind 3.....so for the time being dont forget the memories and go easier on the present....

would have been hard not to win an All Ireland with those players

Not sure many other men than Mickey Harte would have got Tyrone across the line. There was a great team in the mid-90"s too, no Sam Maguire then.

lets just cast our minds back too 2001 and 2002, the years prior to Mickey Harte getting the Tyrone job. In 2001 Tyrone were playing great football with a young eoin mulligan kicking a big score v the dubs in Parnell park while on course to winning a very first national title and then bang they were put out of the competition because of the foot and mouth crisis. Unreal! Of course they went on to win Ulster and beat Armagh on the way. Having played Derry and beating them already in the Ulster semi final they had too play them again in the All Ireland quarter final which was a bit sickening to say the least and were subsequently defeated by a fired up Derry team. 2002 they won the league for the first time(well done Art/Eugene) playing class football. The Sligo match was a case of taking their eye off the ball. It was right and proper Mickey Harte was afforded the chance to take Tyrone in 2003, but no mistake about it Tyrone were gonna win an All Ireland that year for it didn't matter who was gonna be there!! Mickey stated later on their was not much tactics went into Tyrone, he just trusted the players to go out and do their stuff. Lets not get too carried about the manager please. Tyrone in the 1990s did NOT have a great team. Certainly they had one unbelievable footballer who done the job of a black taxi alright!

If people think Mickey Harte will walk out of garvaghy on nice terms well they are a fool. Email gate, the demand for a new 2 year contract, this will be nasty make no mistake about it.

So are you calling Ronan McNamee a liar or a pawn?

that's news to me! It was Ronan McNamee sent it? All I seen of McNamee was him talking in the Irish news about he'd rather go to Spain and do drills than do it at Garvaghy. However things weren't too bad! The person who sent the email gave roisin Jordan special reference. Why her? A player wouldn't have a problem with a specific person on the board? Why not the whole board in general? Very odd indeed.

If people think Mickey Harte will walk out of garvaghy on nice terms well they are a fool. Email gate, the demand for a new 2 year contract, this will be nasty make no mistake about it.

Anyway, on another note.

Do people think we've been getting a lot of silly black cards this year in the league?
How many did Sludden get? He looked like he was playing great stuff in the Dublin game but then after that he got injured and I don't think he played a full game after that?
Is it the way they're tackling or what?

Players depression manifests' itself on the pitch by poor discipline ie black cards and red cards. How depressing! Harte out.

You spout some shite, listen to fans in other counties, look at Petey's scoring return and say he wouldn't make their team? Bullshit. You say Petey plays a slow laborious game? Total horse shit! He's ones of our fasted moving playersm always is moving the ball at pace or going for ball in places you wouldn't put your boot. He's been that way since I first saw him at 16 years of age. I've said it before and I'll say it again; your analysis of Tyrone at the minute is clearly jaundiced by a personal issue and your lack of alternative ideas and pure dung lies (e.g. Plunket Kane story) shows you up for a total tube. 

2 points 3 points ur a f**king idiot if that's all you have on me. Your talking Peter Harte up like he's running through defences for fun! Who's talking horseshit I wonder? Lol. Also I would care to wonder who is the person with the multiple accounts? The word "tube" is been used a lot. That word Gerry Adams called someone last week! Can you not use some other term instead of copying someone else you two brain celled sheep!baa baa baa

[three magnificent long range points]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

listen I'm not naive to think open expansive football is the way to go but unfortunately because of Mickeys insistence on playing certain players like his nephew Peter who I do believe is overrated and who needs a defensive system as protection to tailor his game therefore Mickey  has to play a defensive game all the time to protect his nephew! That's not been personal that's been real ffs!

Seriously, do you think Peter Harte is not worthy of his place on the Tyrone team?

Peter Harte is part of the slow laborious problem Benny. What he get on the Dublin or Kerry team never ever. Other lads need their chance. Better players.

Is there a moderator on here can shut this tube with 2 profiles down, used to enjoy looking in on this page but this is cat! Give ye a headache and I can't even hear him! God help his primary school class in derry

you don't like this thread well go and watch some animal porn.

[three magnificent long range points]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

listen I'm not naive to think open expansive football is the way to go but unfortunately because of Mickeys insistence on playing certain players like his nephew Peter who I do believe is overrated and who needs a defensive system as protection to tailor his game therefore Mickey  has to play a defensive game all the time to protect his nephew! That's not been personal that's been real ffs!

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

maybe Mickey should freshen up the backroom team with a can of "fabreze summer fresh" in the dressing room.

[three magnificent long range points]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.