Have been to all Tyrone's NFL and Championship games this year (bar 1 x NFL).
Have seen all Div 1 and most Div 2 club teams in action. Have yet to see as good a defender / attacking defender as Killyclogher's Dermot Carlin. Yet he has spent most of Tyrone's season in the dugout.
Has he offended somebody?
This doesn't need a thread of it's own.
Quote from: Zapatista on October 28, 2009, 08:15:11 AM
This doesn't need a thread of it's own.
And if I had posted on "Tyrone Club Football and Hurling" you'd have said "nothing to do with Club football". What does it matter where I pose the question?
Unless you are the "Official Thread Policeman" - in which case I beg your forgiveness.
Get a life man and don't let everybody see your prejudices.
Your forgiven.
DCR - I think your correct on Carlin. Has great explosive pace going forward. Really came to the fore in the championsip giving Brian McGuigan a torrid time in the semi-final. I think he would be worth an extended run in the side during the league, but where do you play him? If he does'nt make the team this year, it will be hard to see him sit on the bench for another year.
No worries, Dermot Carlin Rules
I still have nightmares of him spending all day trying to kick points from corner back a few years ago in Omagh in the NFL against Mayo while Conor Mortimor scored 3 goals off him!!
Also remember him playing a ulster final against Monaghan 2007 and had a great match, he came of the bench against Mayo the same year and played well.
His best position imo is half back and this is the main problem because seemly no matter how bad Philly or Davey play they will not be dropped
he probably could have been doing with Benny Harps right and left foot
Quote from: tyronefan on October 28, 2009, 10:32:05 AM
Also remember him playing a ulster final against Monaghan 2007 and had a great match, he came of the bench against Mayo the same year and played well.
His best position imo is half back and this is the main problem because seemly no matter how bad Philly or Davey play they will not be dropped
I agree - and surely that is the problem. PJ had a poor year and I accept that he was carrying an injury. DH is good going forward but doesn't defend well. With Dermot you get the best of both.
Sure Marty Swift can do the same as he showed well in the mc kenna cup and league last year,i think if harte gives him a good run at it these year hes a good call for coner back!!
Quote from: Zapatista on October 28, 2009, 10:15:10 AM
No worries, Dermot Carlin Rules
Ahhh - I've been discovered
Quote from: DCR on October 28, 2009, 08:02:11 AM
Have been to all Tyrone's NFL and Championship games this year (bar 1 x NFL).
Have seen all Div 1 and most Div 2 club teams in action. Have yet to see as good a defender / attacking defender as Killyclogher's Dermot Carlin. Yet he has spent most of Tyrone's season in the dugout.
Has he offended somebody?
Did you not get a good look at Sean O'Neill in the county final. Might have got a bit more time than Carlin this season, but if anyone is going to break into that half back line he would surely be first?
Quote from: tyronefan on October 28, 2009, 10:32:05 AM
Also remember him playing a ulster final against Monaghan 2007 and had a great match, he came of the bench against Mayo the same year and played well.
His best position imo is half back and this is the main problem because seemly no matter how bad Philly or Davey play they will not be dropped
More a less what your saying is that micky only picks a team on loyalty if dermy was in better form in training he`d be picked ahead of either two if their form was poor,the reason dermy looks good is because is on the attack so much, i`d doubt his defensive capabilities.Imo sean oneill would be streets ahead of him,i`ve noticed since th cork game davey and philly have come in for severe criticism within tyrone u`d nearly think their was nobody else from tyrone playing that day.Maybe in the case of Philly he was playing with an injury that was that severe it could keep him out of action for 6mths.
I remember he was one of Tyrone's best players in 2007 and Harte inexplicably didn't play him in the quarter final against Meath. It wasn't one of Harte's better days at the office... are you allowed to say that? :o Dooher was selected despite being too injured to play and he left Cavlan in full forward for most of the game although he was getting roasted by Darren Fay. I am an admirer of Dermy and don't believe he always got a fair chance from the Tyrone boss.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on October 28, 2009, 05:37:24 PM
I remember he was one of Tyrone's best players in 2007 and Harte inexplicably didn't play him in the quarter final against Meath. It wasn't one of Harte's better days at the office... are you allowed to say that? :o Dooher was selected despite being too injured to play and he left Cavlan in full forward for most of the game although he was getting roasted by Darren Fay. I am an admirer of Dermy and don't believe he always got a fair chance from the Tyrone boss.
Can't argue with any of that
Quote from: up tyrone on October 28, 2009, 05:30:50 PM
Quote from: tyronefan on October 28, 2009, 10:32:05 AM
Also remember him playing a ulster final against Monaghan 2007 and had a great match, he came of the bench against Mayo the same year and played well.
His best position imo is half back and this is the main problem because seemly no matter how bad Philly or Davey play they will not be dropped
More a less what your saying is that micky only picks a team on loyalty if dermy was in better form in training he`d be picked ahead of either two if their form was poor,the reason dermy looks good is because is on the attack so much, i`d doubt his defensive capabilities.Imo sean oneill would be streets ahead of him,i`ve noticed since th cork game davey and philly have come in for severe criticism within tyrone u`d nearly think their was nobody else from tyrone playing that day.Maybe in the case of Philly he was playing with an injury that was that severe it could keep him out of action for 6mths.
Yet Joradan was still played!!!
The same faith wasn't shown to Sean Cavanagh.
Cavanagh said he wasn't fit for the full game.
Quote from: up tyrone on October 28, 2009, 05:30:50 PM
Quote from: tyronefan on October 28, 2009, 10:32:05 AM
Also remember him playing a ulster final against Monaghan 2007 and had a great match, he came of the bench against Mayo the same year and played well.
His best position imo is half back and this is the main problem because seemly no matter how bad Philly or Davey play they will not be dropped
More a less what your saying is that micky only picks a team on loyalty if dermy was in better form in training he`d be picked ahead of either two if their form was poor,the reason dermy looks good is because is on the attack so much, i`d doubt his defensive capabilities.Imo sean oneill would be streets ahead of him,i`ve noticed since th cork game davey and philly have come in for severe criticism within tyrone u`d nearly think their was nobody else from tyrone playing that day.Maybe in the case of Philly he was playing with an injury that was that severe it could keep him out of action for 6mths.
Thats my point exactly, Philly is a very good player but had a bad year and not just for the Cork match.
Maybe he should have been rested and give Dermy a run for a couple of match's.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on October 28, 2009, 05:37:24 PM
It wasn't one of Harte's better days at the office... are you allowed to say that? :o
No you are not allowed to question Mickey's infallibility - you risk incurring the wrath of his many fans (including me) who hang on his every word on subjects ranging from Birth Control to Road Safety.
you forgot about spitting!! :D
Quote from: mick the master on October 29, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
you forgot about spitting!! :D
So I did.
Doesn't matter if you grab someone by the testicles or knee him in the groin. But don't spit out your water.
Dermy definitely deserves his place in the squad, and will yet command his place on the first team proper. He's not yet quite the finished, polished County footballer article, but not far off it.
Dermot could be back in the team this year, word on the street is that Philly Jordan hip is still giving him bother and may not play very much this year at all
I heard jordan will be out most of the year washing his caravan cos he's nothin but a dirty divin gypsy...
Quote from: screenmachine on January 05, 2010, 01:00:38 PM
I heard jordan will be out most of the year washing his caravan cos he's nothin but a dirty divin gypsy...
Washing is something that would not keep you Derry wans busy too long anyhow...
ah now, we all know what they say about tyrone folk...they're wa*kers
Quote from: screenmachine on January 05, 2010, 01:28:30 PM
ah now, we all know what they say about tyrone folk...they're wa*kers
Very true. Sure the last loc of years we have been walkers who have walked up the steps of the Hogan Stand brave and often.
Why are Derry wans so bitter?????????
Must be something to do with our 3 AI's, cant believe a screen man is trying to give stick too.......lol :D
Quote from: screenmachine on January 05, 2010, 01:28:30 PM
ah now, we all know what they say about tyrone folk...they're wa*kers
Comedy gold once again screenmachine, fantastic
I don't give a feck if you climbed the famous steps at the Philadelphia Museum of Art like one Rocky Balboa...[Edited]...How's intermediate football treating ya's Cookstownblue? I'd say our Ulster League has more relevance than a Micky Mouse Intermediate championship...
Are Cookstown not back in Senior Football in 2011?
Were back this year nrico, and looking forward to it!
Quote from: screenmachine on January 06, 2010, 09:20:42 PM
I don't give a feck if you climbed the famous steps at the Philadelphia Museum of Art like one Rocky Balboa...[Edited]...How's intermediate football treating ya's Cookstownblue? I'd say our Ulster League has more relevance than a Micky Mouse Intermediate championship...
i dont think youd know much about football big lad, youve obviously no respect for your fellow countrymen or for the men playing our national game- which leads me to believe you cant/could never play! Bet your one of these men that stands on the line roaring and shouting but when it comes down to it......you dont have a clue!