Sligo Club Football & Hurling

[sprinter]

paddypastit - that's true about Dublin and in that case the Dublin County Board are right to stick to their rules and therefore decrease the chances in the future of having players hopping from one club to an other. Sligo County Board have traditionally not taken a stand on this and therefore can't enforce the letter of the law now. without taking offence, I would say you are well adept in boundary/ parish matters seeing that you lived in a marginalised  area where loyalities could of went to either club, and where the area in question was contentious as who had rights to it. If local knowledge is right the vast majority of players in that area now play with the blue and white....

Mano- no worries regarding sunday---- went up to have a look at training last night, there taking nothing for granted believe me. They couldn't get a challenge game last weekend so there lacking a bit of sharpness.  Don't be worrying if we get knocked out we will see you at the 7's.... as usual 

It's a shame you can't say anything controvsial anymore. not much fun posting here anymore.

[SLIGONIAN]

04 Sep SFC Quarter final 4 Curry/Curraigh 0 - 10 1 - 12 Geevagh
04 Sep IFC Quarter final 1 Castleconnor 1 - 10 3 - 8 Owenmore Gaels
04 Sep IFC Quarter final 4 St Farnan's 0 - 10 1 - 9 Easkey
04 Sep SFC Relegation Semi final Tubbercurry 1 - 17 0 - 9 St Molaise Gaels
04 Sep JBFC Semi Final St Patrick's/Dromard 0 - 8 2 - 13 Calraigh/Naomh Iósef/Calry/St Joseph's
04 Sep SFC Quarter final 1 Eastern Harps 0 - 17 1 - 11 St Mary's
04 Sep IFC Quarter final 2 Bunninadden 1 - 12 0 - 12 St Michael's/Naomh Mícheál
04 Sep SFC Quarter final 3 Ballymote Round Towers 1 - 12 1 - 11 St John's
04 Sep IFC Relegation Semi final Cúil Áine/Mullach na Bréine/Coolaney/Mullinabreena 1 - 20 0 - 0 Ballisodare

I was at our game and the harps v marys game. We got hammered and tubber were comfortable, sad day for us tbh, so much wrong that im not going to bother going into it, not worth it. Pised off, and it us or Calry going down.

The Harps Marys game was outstanding from start to finish, both teams played great clean football. Several seeping full length of field moves ended in points for both sides with defences harrying the player in possession. I did feel a little sorry for marys as the ref favoured harps big time, it didnt matter what taylor did he gto free after free, even one stage he ran in a lead with the shoulder and what should of been a free out was free in to taylor. Taylor is a genuis but this ref was ridiculous bias towards harps. Rafferty was outstanding for harps but its hard to single out anyone beside Paul Taylor its a team ethic with them. Tony made his comeback and played well.

My one thought after the game was the performance and Man of the match by a mile in Johnny Martyn, he destroyed McGovern in the first half and was outstandin throughout, got 1-1 from play and was immense tracking back aswell, several times he broke down harps attacks aswell, he is flying fit, he looks to have added serious strength to his physicality as anytime he tackled the ball popped out of the harps man. I know Kevin Walsh was at the Geevagh Curry game and went to Tubbercurry after but hopefully Paul Taylor will tell him about Martyn.

The coen donovan battle was great to watch aswell all game. Harps were lucky enough, the ref definitly had a bearing imo, Marys missed a vital goal chance in 1st half which i thought should of been a peno, coen did well and got a few great scores from play on donovan. I enjoyed the game, well worth going to.

Congrats to Geevagh and Balymote, and biggest shock goes to Owenmore Gaels congrats to them aswell.

[Westie]

Well Seanie, you were right - -Congrats to O.Gaels .Deserved victory, hard to take. Can't remember the last time Gaels beat us but I do remember us stealing a victory in Tubber in 94 with a most undeserving goal (and useless goal at that), but I would say it was the 80's mid to late. Bar one or two of our fellas  the rest could not be happy with their performances, but that is how it goes.
We are in transition now and the 5-6 years when we hadn't the players (not lost just no population)for a minor team are haunting us now, but the main thing is to stabilise and move on up.

[paddypastit]

paddypastit - that's true about Dublin and in that case the Dublin County Board are right to stick to their rules and therefore decrease the chances in the future of having players hopping from one club to an other. Sligo County Board have traditionally not taken a stand on this and therefore can't enforce the letter of the law now. without taking offence, I would say you are well adept in boundary/ parish matters seeing that you lived in a marginalised  area where loyalities could of went to either club, and where the area in question was contentious as who had rights to it. If local knowledge is right the vast majority of players in that area now play with the blue and white....

Mano- no worries regarding sunday---- went up to have a look at training last night, there taking
nothing for granted believe me. They couldn't get a challenge game last weekend so there lacking a bit of sharpness.  Don't be worrying if we get knocked out we will see you at the 7's.... as usual 

It's a shame you can't say anything controvsial anymore. not much fun posting here anymore.

Sprinter - there are actually not that many issues where I come from that I am aware of, or maybe I'm too long out of the area and things have changed. I was reared 300 yds from a parish boundary and in football terms was 'the last house in the parish'   I was approached once to move when I was 16 but it was half hearted. Later there was a split in our club with a result that anyone in my and the neighbouring half parish since then can play for either of two clubs. In general folk follow family tradition and there isn't in my experience too much fuss. In our club specifically we've evened out with 'border issues' - there have been lads that should have played for us that ended up playing with Geevagh, Harps or Ballymote and also over time the other way around   

Frankly, while I agree that wanton changing and moving around is not good, I'd be less hung up on the parish rule than some. For example there is a lad that lived further away from my neighbouring parish than I ever did but his father played with them, socialised and worked there and the lad went to school there. Naturally with all those personal and family ties he wanted to play football there
rather than for my club where he quite literally knew nobody. Initially he was blocked and of course he didn't play at all.

I would view underage and adult differently. In underage the parish rule should apply generally but if there is a bona fide case such as parentage, school location etc, then the rules should err on the side of the player.

In adult football, and by that I mean over 21, then I'd allow freedom of movement but only once in a lifetime outside the current, obvious, residency related changes that are allowed, and probably with an extended application period - three months or something. A player that wants
to be somewhere else is of no use anyway. Sure there will be the odd glory hunter that will go for that reason but the nature of Gaelic games is such that the vast vast majority are in it for the opportunity and desire to represent and if the club that they are 'born into' runs their affairs right, then very few will have any desire to change.

       

[SLIGONIAN]

Congrats to Caroline Currid on her involvement with Tipp hurlers, as sports enhancement coach. Any chance her native county Sligo would use her services? Caroline was also involved with Dublin footballers this yr and Tyrone when they won Sam. Im sure she could bring something to the table. Maybe even her Club St Molaise Gaels would get her involved.

Congrats Caroline great to hear that great footballing North Sligo Surname out on Croke park on All Ireland day.

[magpie seanie]

Well I did get a huge % of the actual predictions wrong as it happens. To refer to the C/Connor v. Owenmore Gaels result - its a huge one for the Gaels lads. Castleconnor will get over it (even though s a sore one) cos there is mighty work being done out there. Players like Judge and Naughton are massive losses at club level. Delighted for John Mac senior, he has really got those boys going.

To matters closer to home and even though we displayed a better attitude and hunger we still came up short against Tourlestrane. They started and ended both halfs well but in the middle sections of each half we were the better team. Annoying that we did so much good work but then let them in for some really soft scores at times. We were in trouble in midfield until Costello junior went there in the second half and badly missed Quinner. We're really disappointed as we thought we were going to win this one. Credit to Tour, they were able to get the scores when they really needed them and we made big mistakes at crucial times. Very frustrating. Just have to mention the refereeing - it was generally accepted that it was scandalous. I also had a thought when our subs had to go looking for a stretcher and then carried Alan Costello off themselves. I just remembered the article about Henry Shefflin and how well he was looked after and saw the contrast in front of my eyes. All the back slapping and talk of progress in Sligo GAA is like a lot of the perceived progress - superficial.

Tourlestrane will be delighted. They will feel they have plenty of room for improvement but that they got a good test and came through with no injuries or suspensions. They'll have learned a thing or two about themselves as well.

[SLIGONIAN]

The referreing is atrocious at senior level Seanie, ironically enough its a way better at underage. Hope Costello isnt out long term. Sligo were very lucky with injuries this yr and hope that luck stays. Is EOH back for Tourlestrane this yr?

Did any of ye hear about Charlie Harrison and the reason why he didnt play for Johns on Sat?

The main question for the week is how many bodyguards Eugene McHale will need for next week, and especiallly if Balymote shock Tourlestrane. I think we are all looking forward to this own as Balymote wont let Tourlestrane get there own back on McHale without a serious fight imo.

As im a neutral i just hope the team that wins the owen b hunt represent Sligo well in Connacht.

[SLIGONIAN]

Cathal Burns im told did his cruciate in our match, it looked bad and i wish the lad a speedy recovery. Big loss for us.

I just looked at the fixtures, im angry our game against Calry is on the same time as Tour v balymote, a joke and the stupidity of the CCC to fix it that way. No wonder attendances are so low. Idiots.

[SLIGONIAN]

I just watched the Connacht final for the first time and did the stats from possessions to timekeeping etc...

I just briefly give the injurie time etc...just show how blantant it was...

2nd half only
Roscommon injury 41.00 to 42.02, 51.50 to 53.02, 57.45 to 58.58, 68.30 to 69.03, 70.00 to 71.05

The above excludes all wasting of time from claffey kickouts to shines frees which i didnt expect the ref to play again and subs.

Ref gives 2 mins injury time, the above with Roscommon injuries alone adds up 5.08 mins, the biggest insult is this the game ended with 72.19 on the clock. There was a 1.05 stoppage in injury time and Jimmy White played 19 secs extra. Like Curley in 97 he couldnt blew his quick enough. Some of the frees given against Sligo where shocking tbh.

They say you can never prove were a ref was bias but the above is Facts and it is blantant. Ref contributed heavily to us losing but our lacklustre apporach first half killed us, the ref just twisted the knife that we were sticking into ourselves anyhow.

[Mano]

We probably would have done the same in the same situation however you would expect the referee or the officials who assign injury time to allocate the correct amount of time based on the stoppages.

What was really maddening and i saw it at the time and on video, when Shine has just converted the winning free a Roscommon player just falls to the ground as if struck by lightening and wastes over a minute.

[SLIGONIAN]

We probably would have done the same in the same situation however you would expect the referee or the officials who assign injury time to allocate the correct amount of time based on the stoppages.

What was really maddening and i saw it at the time and on video, when Shine has just converted the winning free a Roscommon player just falls to the ground as if struck by lightening and wastes over a minute.

Im not blaming Roscommon, im blaming Jimmy White. Sure in the 70th min the free was given in the half way line but it was shine wasting the minute up in the FF line. Less than 60secs later he was jumping around.  Its a refs job to punish the time wasting and instead he rewarded the time wasting. Some of the frees given against us were horrendous. I'lll post more details later.

[sprinter]

I'lll post more details later.

hurry up I can't wait, for more insightful comments.

[magpie seanie]

Ah go easy Sprinter. What's wong with what he posted about the Connacht Final. Play the ball, not the man.

[paddypastit]

In fairness, if you did an analysis like that on ANY game there would be 5 - 6 minutes injury time at the end

[SLIGONIAN]

So its a Harps v Tourlestrane final, should guarntee a tight match as both semis disappointed. I was at the Geevagh Harps game, in fairness Geevagh had Harps by the balls in the first half but never made the most of there opportuinites. Missing that gilt edged goal chance of Sweeneys cost them dear. Geevagh are a seriously physical side with some good footballers but they were only able to contain Harps for the 1st half. They actually marshalled Taylor well in that period, and lead by a 1pt at HT. 2nd half Harps totally dominated, with Donovan and McGovern cutting loose, they were both immense, looking super fit and sharp, never wasting possession, how many times mcgovern got geevagh ball that was meant for there forwards showed great reading of the game. Paul Taylor goal was outstanding, a great finish with his left foot from a tight angle on the wrong side gave harps a 1-7 to 0-7 lead wiping out all geevaghs hard work 1st half. Sweeney was coming deeper for the ball and geevagh lost there shape as harps penned them in from midfield. Wasnt really a midfield battle sorta of game as no clean ball was realy won here with both teams haveing rely on breaks. I thought grady came out best as he broke several balls to his own men. Tony showed his class when on the ball. I though Doddy was outstanding and deserved his goal, the goal resulted from the pressure geevagh were putting on taylor to not score a point but things opened up and doddy timed his run to perfection to cooly slot home. Harps ran out easy winners in the end 2-13 to 1-10, with Geevagh getting a late consolation. Harps looked vunerable under the high ball in the FB line, they got opened up a few times for goal chances but Geevagh didnt take the ones that mattered sometimes settling for points. Best for Harps were donovan, mcgovern,Grady, Paul Taylor, doddy, and the rest werent far behind. Harps will take some stopping and im looing forward to the final.

The intermediate game, drumcliffe won it well despite being behind 1-3 to 0-2 at HT after a disastrous showing, no wind, but 2nd half drumcliffe destroyed bunindan who couldnt get out of there own half. Best for drumcliffe, collery, gallagher, and they won out 2-13 to 2-3.

Our game sat nite was probably game of the weekend, pulsating from start to finish as both teams played there best football of the year. We were missing Cathal Burns and they were missing o reilly and o boyle. Gavin Gilsenan came on for us aswell. We played some great stuff and got outstanding scores from the boot of martin feeney, niall mcloughlin took a well taken goal to give a 4pt HT lead. This game hinged on who would win enough ball in midfield to get the ball into there forwards as both sets of forawrds had the beating of there backs. We won some fatal ball in midfeild at the start of the 2nd half and created some great moves one culmiating in a great goal by Keelan watters who was very good throughout. That put us 7 pts up with 15mins left. Game over not, We collapsed on break winning and no8 for calry caught several clean ball to change the momentum of the game, they ran at us at will and we started to panic, letting in 2 goals by letting forward in goal side. The goals were intersected by 3 pts and we looked dead and buried after 2-3 in quick succession losing 2-10 to 2-8. However Mark quinn turnovered a move by calry and we worked a late free to bring to 1pt game. With Calry now having about 13 men in there own 45 we won last kickout working the ball up the left flank very cagely and losing possesion to winning it back and winning a free near the sideline 30mtrs  out, not an easy task but courageously dara currid took a quick free to quinn who ran at calry and in there panic fouled again and gave us a fair easier free which Eoin McHugh cooly slotted over and then the final whistle 2-10 a piece. I was relieved tbh, the game was high on quality throughout suprisingly for a relegation match and credit to both teams, Conor griffin was outstanding for them, he caused havoc in our FB line, and best for us was martin feeney, keelan watters, darren glisenan. Not great for the heart but wish our lads the best the next day.