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#20371
General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
November 12, 2017, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 12, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
Commemoration at war memorial in Omagh disrupted by a suspect device planted on Drumragh Avenue had to be held at Omagh Academy as town centre closed off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41960294

Obviously planted by the RUC/PNSI...
#20372
General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
November 12, 2017, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 12, 2017, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on November 11, 2017, 11:21:46 PM
Surprised at both neil Lennon and Richards dunne wearing them tonight on ITV.
I can't imagine Lennon was bullied into wearing one so if it was his choice then that's his prerogative.

You see this is the madness of his mindset! He truly believes that Lennon has let the side down by wearing a poppy! Has Neil not been reading the GAA board?? Probably thinks Lennon as you say was bullied by the poppy police to wear it!
#20373
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
November 12, 2017, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: vallankumous on November 11, 2017, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
A vicious circle thats never ending it seems... It's a pity people wont let go, I can imagine seeking justice would be your primary role in life if you have lost a loved one, thats over 3,500 who died over the troubles that families won't let go and i get that, a proper truth commission is the only way.. once through that then people can heal (of sorts)

I didnt realise there was still that much bitterness on here, doesn't take much for it to rise to the surface

There is no chance you or anyone else would ask Peadar to 'let go'. It would be unfair to ask that. He has some horrible injuries and trauma caused by someone else. In fact, we would expect him to not let go or move on. Nor would we describe him as bitter. We would all argue he has a right to be angry and frustrated but would not use the word 'bitter'.
THis applies to all victims. There are many victims on all sides. Some victims deal with it in a different way to others. Victims should not be expected to have the same approach as each other nor the same approach as non victims. To ask them to 'let it go' is inhumane. It needs a much wider all inclusive approach.

A poster claimed earlier that it doesn't take much to stir up the bitterness. This is not the case. For that poster this is a reminder. One which pops up now and then. Victims live with reminders everyday. Peadar does not need a headline story or a national debate to remind him of how he feels.

There is a hierarchy of victims. There always is. There is a wider acceptance that those hurt by security forces in some way, regardless of who they are, hold some of the responsibility. If not then the community do, or the political leaders do etc. It is clearer to see the outrage of prisoners being abused in Guatanamo Bay by Irish people yet accusations of torture in Ireland do not cause outrage. There is blame attached to the victims here.

There is never the same innocence applied to victims of the security forces. That's the winners writing the history as we watch it unfold. Victims of security forces are asked to let it go or to move on much more than victims of paramilitaries. I think it's wrong to ask this of any victim. Addressing it is the only cure, forgetting or ignoring won't solve anything.

I don't know where to start with this reply... there is no difference or hierarchy of victims of the troubles, whether he was a peeler shot at his front door or an IRA man shot on active duty to the innocent victim caught out by a bomb blast, all victims all suffering, all wanting closure if they didn't get it!

There has been over 3,500 deaths I'd say 20% of those deaths the perpetrators were caught and a closure of sorts given, though with the GFA they were let out of gaol.

If we continue to go down the route of trying to solve every case it will take another 30 years and millions of money! A proper truth commission will at least give closure to the majority of those cases, in most cases the police know who did it but didn't have the evidence to prove it... I never said it would be easy to let go, the bitterness will always be there..

If we don't move on then we'll not get proper policing shared communities integrated schools and intergrated living! Seems for most that's not what they are looking for
#20374
General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
November 12, 2017, 09:51:54 AM
Christ the night!! Surprised at someone wearing a poppy on tv! And Irish men at that! What is the world coming to
#20375
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 12, 2017, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
Forgive my ignorance but is f devlin not a teacher?
Yes he was a great player for the loup,absolutely brilliant player.i know he has managed a couple of teams like galbally before but dont see the relevance of a teacher being qualified for s&c.

Eh? I've known joiners that have become personal trainers, can't how a teacher can't be qualified in s/c... like saying a teacher has no experience in managing teams as he didn't do the foundation courses..

Keep looking for the negatives Galer, or antigaler should be a better name
#20376
General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
November 11, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
Sidebottom and Thomas Kane
#20377
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2017
November 11, 2017, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: inthrough on November 01, 2017, 10:54:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 09:57:29 PM
Look you'll see how they fare on the day, I'd said they had a decent result in Ulster so has Derrygonnelly who have had three goes at it lately and got their noses well in front of a Harps team who were well happy at winning Armagh!
Agreed. We can all have all the opinions in the world but two excellent teams will battle it out on the day & give us a result.

Really looking forward to it.

S'Neil are different gravy, Kilcar need to win Donegal for a few seasons!
#20378
General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
November 11, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
Two sports presenters on bbc one ni yesterday had no poppies ..
#20379
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
November 11, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Dunloy well beaten in the Ulster minor championship. What is it about this competition that Antrim teams don't have a great record in it?

Down 9 points in first four minutes and lost by nine
2 scores from play not good enough
Every time we ran at them we got a free
We where missing Shan Elliott and anton Mc grath
Dungiven very physical and a lot of our large players not interested
Think we are all going a bit soft over this side of the Bann
Dungiven goalie was outstanding
Stopped some bullets the whole match
It's strange. We play in the same league and our teams would be beating them comfortably enough throughout the year but often fail to produce in this competition.
I agree
We win it last year but fell heavily to slaughtneil the year before
Personally I think if Derry jacked the big ball they would be beating us handy a county level every year
We where shut down today the same as the senior ulster final
We need to much space to hurl and don't respond well to teams that bring intense tackling
Dungiven where more efficient in possession to
The question is are we lagging behind counties now we use to trounce both at club and county

I've said it for years!! If Derry were serious about hurling, they'd be a force!
#20380
Quote from: Syferus on November 11, 2017, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 04:11:08 PM
If you were raped you'd come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think

Do you genuinely think that it's that simple? Man.

The more people say it, it will make it easier for the rest..
#20381
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 11, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Is it worse than last years??
Well no Matthew Fitz for a start......

So will we get 15 players this year?
#20382
If you were raped you'd come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
#20383
Quote from: Syferus on November 11, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2017, 02:13:19 PM
As i said before, a lot of people being convicted by the media. It seems an accusation is enough; no evidence required.

Yep

Err, many of these are multiple accusations - very hard to manufacture.

I don't think either you have much conception of how difficult it is to bring an allegation of sexual assault against a public figure. In most if not all of these cases it's very obvious what is being claimed did indeed happen - these people have much more to lose than to gain from a false claim. You seriously think there's a big money racket in claiming Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey sexually assaulted you? Cop on ffs.

Believe victims, not your own prejudices.

So if 8 posters on here claimed you raped them and put it on Facebook that be true?

I'm not saying these sex allegations aren't by the way
#20384
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
Quote from: MW on November 11, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven't met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a "Romanian gypsy c**t" was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He's a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!

For someone who wouldn't watch the ni team if they were playing in his back garden you've done posts on them lately!

Stew you don't like them do why don't you feck off to another thread, big game tonight to concentrate your enthusiasm!

As already said with the French knocked Ireland out Henry was given dogs abuse including racial by, yes you guessed it Irish supporters!
#20385
If it's on fb it's the truth!