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#1
General discussion / Re: Android Boxes
April 13, 2016, 08:31:11 AM
Anyone on here any experience of running Kodi or IPTV on a Sony TV with android built in?
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: End Game for Mickey?
September 11, 2015, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 11, 2015, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 11, 2015, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 11, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on September 11, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 10, 2015, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: longballin on September 10, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
Not great for players profile either or chance of sponsorship deals. Why not let them speak and if Mickey doesn't want to speak to RTE so be it? I don't buy that players have decided, they know they can't step out of the line. Players speak to RTE after they leave the panel anyway

The players would seem to back their manager, I wouldn't imagine Sean Cavanagh would be too keen on giving RTE the time of day with the way he has been portrayed by some of their people over the years, nor would Tiernan McCann or Justin McMahon. Joe McMahon came out a couple of years back with a reminder to people the merits of why they don't speak.

The panel of players seem to be a very tight bunch and have a lot of respect and gratitude for Harte which is good to see. I'm pretty sure they're happy to be playing football and aren't too worried about dealing with RTE and would actually feel quite resentful towards them for how they have been depicted.

I think the nonsense being peddled by some here about pressure from sponsors is lads with some sort of axe to grind, I think Harte and the panel are doing the right thing on a matter of principle. RTE have treated the Harte family, Tyrone players and the wider Tyrone GAA community disgracefully so f**k them.

McAleer and Rushe have had plenty of exposure this year from a run to an All Ireland semi-final, I'm sure they're more than happy with that performance. Sad and disappointing to see some people using unconfirmed "sponsor pressure" as a proxy to push an agenda against Harte. How about they show some respect and understanding?


I think you will find I said Mickey is the man for the job and I fully support him staying put. But you are an absolutely deluded armchair fan if you don't understand the money needed today even at club level to compete.

Sponsors weren't happy, end off! You can say they got exposure....they got this.....they got that.... it doesn't matter! Sponsors are simply not lining up anymore and in order to get one a player needs to be available to speak to the media!

I am all for your "f**k the rest, c'mon tyrone" sentiments but in reality money talks and bulls**t walks. Start walking my friend

I am aware of the costs but I don't happen to believe all this "sponsor pressure" bluster that is being bandied about. I'm sure the sponsors are more than happy with the fact their logo and brand were carried by one of the top 4 teams in the country this year rather than missing out on a two minute air time after the game which most people have switched over.

I happen to believe there is no sponsor pressure and people are only using this to push their agenda against Harte.

So no matter how many people say that there is pressure from the sponsers and give reasons why they believe that to be the case, youre just adamant that its all made up. Nobody is arguing that Harte is the best man for the job in a footballing sense, but he cannot have the final say on everything within the county. As has been stated a lot of money is needed to run a county team, McAleer and Rushe are putting a lot of money forward and arent getting the exposure they signed up for. An agreement was made at the start of the year that players would speak to RTE, this never happened. Promises have been broken by the management. This is why a 1 year deal is the best option, if he tows the line then im sure another year wouldnt be a problem.

What promises?

That players would be made available for interviews. Any current intercounty player will tell you that they have been told NOT to speak to RTE (maybe not directly by MH but by a member of his backroom team).

But what promises have the management broken?

If you read what i posted you would have your answer.

I can read perfectly well.  You said:

An agreement was made at the start of the year that players would speak to RTE, this never happened. Promises have been broken by the management.

and

That players would be made available for interviews


You haven't ever clarified what promises were made or broken by management.

Did the management make an agreement at the start of the year?
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: End Game for Mickey?
September 11, 2015, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 11, 2015, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 11, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on September 11, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 10, 2015, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: longballin on September 10, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
Not great for players profile either or chance of sponsorship deals. Why not let them speak and if Mickey doesn't want to speak to RTE so be it? I don't buy that players have decided, they know they can't step out of the line. Players speak to RTE after they leave the panel anyway

The players would seem to back their manager, I wouldn't imagine Sean Cavanagh would be too keen on giving RTE the time of day with the way he has been portrayed by some of their people over the years, nor would Tiernan McCann or Justin McMahon. Joe McMahon came out a couple of years back with a reminder to people the merits of why they don't speak.

The panel of players seem to be a very tight bunch and have a lot of respect and gratitude for Harte which is good to see. I'm pretty sure they're happy to be playing football and aren't too worried about dealing with RTE and would actually feel quite resentful towards them for how they have been depicted.

I think the nonsense being peddled by some here about pressure from sponsors is lads with some sort of axe to grind, I think Harte and the panel are doing the right thing on a matter of principle. RTE have treated the Harte family, Tyrone players and the wider Tyrone GAA community disgracefully so f**k them.

McAleer and Rushe have had plenty of exposure this year from a run to an All Ireland semi-final, I'm sure they're more than happy with that performance. Sad and disappointing to see some people using unconfirmed "sponsor pressure" as a proxy to push an agenda against Harte. How about they show some respect and understanding?


I think you will find I said Mickey is the man for the job and I fully support him staying put. But you are an absolutely deluded armchair fan if you don't understand the money needed today even at club level to compete.

Sponsors weren't happy, end off! You can say they got exposure....they got this.....they got that.... it doesn't matter! Sponsors are simply not lining up anymore and in order to get one a player needs to be available to speak to the media!

I am all for your "f**k the rest, c'mon tyrone" sentiments but in reality money talks and bulls**t walks. Start walking my friend

I am aware of the costs but I don't happen to believe all this "sponsor pressure" bluster that is being bandied about. I'm sure the sponsors are more than happy with the fact their logo and brand were carried by one of the top 4 teams in the country this year rather than missing out on a two minute air time after the game which most people have switched over.

I happen to believe there is no sponsor pressure and people are only using this to push their agenda against Harte.

So no matter how many people say that there is pressure from the sponsers and give reasons why they believe that to be the case, youre just adamant that its all made up. Nobody is arguing that Harte is the best man for the job in a footballing sense, but he cannot have the final say on everything within the county. As has been stated a lot of money is needed to run a county team, McAleer and Rushe are putting a lot of money forward and arent getting the exposure they signed up for. An agreement was made at the start of the year that players would speak to RTE, this never happened. Promises have been broken by the management. This is why a 1 year deal is the best option, if he tows the line then im sure another year wouldnt be a problem.

What promises?

That players would be made available for interviews. Any current intercounty player will tell you that they have been told NOT to speak to RTE (maybe not directly by MH but by a member of his backroom team).

But what promises have the management broken?
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: End Game for Mickey?
September 11, 2015, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Up The Middle on September 11, 2015, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 11, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on September 11, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 10, 2015, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: longballin on September 10, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
Not great for players profile either or chance of sponsorship deals. Why not let them speak and if Mickey doesn't want to speak to RTE so be it? I don't buy that players have decided, they know they can't step out of the line. Players speak to RTE after they leave the panel anyway

The players would seem to back their manager, I wouldn't imagine Sean Cavanagh would be too keen on giving RTE the time of day with the way he has been portrayed by some of their people over the years, nor would Tiernan McCann or Justin McMahon. Joe McMahon came out a couple of years back with a reminder to people the merits of why they don't speak.

The panel of players seem to be a very tight bunch and have a lot of respect and gratitude for Harte which is good to see. I'm pretty sure they're happy to be playing football and aren't too worried about dealing with RTE and would actually feel quite resentful towards them for how they have been depicted.

I think the nonsense being peddled by some here about pressure from sponsors is lads with some sort of axe to grind, I think Harte and the panel are doing the right thing on a matter of principle. RTE have treated the Harte family, Tyrone players and the wider Tyrone GAA community disgracefully so f**k them.

McAleer and Rushe have had plenty of exposure this year from a run to an All Ireland semi-final, I'm sure they're more than happy with that performance. Sad and disappointing to see some people using unconfirmed "sponsor pressure" as a proxy to push an agenda against Harte. How about they show some respect and understanding?


I think you will find I said Mickey is the man for the job and I fully support him staying put. But you are an absolutely deluded armchair fan if you don't understand the money needed today even at club level to compete.

Sponsors weren't happy, end off! You can say they got exposure....they got this.....they got that.... it doesn't matter! Sponsors are simply not lining up anymore and in order to get one a player needs to be available to speak to the media!

I am all for your "f**k the rest, c'mon tyrone" sentiments but in reality money talks and bulls**t walks. Start walking my friend

I am aware of the costs but I don't happen to believe all this "sponsor pressure" bluster that is being bandied about. I'm sure the sponsors are more than happy with the fact their logo and brand were carried by one of the top 4 teams in the country this year rather than missing out on a two minute air time after the game which most people have switched over.

I happen to believe there is no sponsor pressure and people are only using this to push their agenda against Harte.

So no matter how many people say that there is pressure from the sponsers and give reasons why they believe that to be the case, youre just adamant that its all made up. Nobody is arguing that Harte is the best man for the job in a footballing sense, but he cannot have the final say on everything within the county. As has been stated a lot of money is needed to run a county team, McAleer and Rushe are putting a lot of money forward and arent getting the exposure they signed up for. An agreement was made at the start of the year that players would speak to RTE, this never happened. Promises have been broken by the management. This is why a 1 year deal is the best option, if he tows the line then im sure another year wouldnt be a problem.

What promises?
#5
Quote from: trileacman on July 09, 2015, 12:20:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2015, 11:25:03 PM
Is Harte definitely gone at the end of this campaign? Is that the thinking?

Well that's his thinking so I suppose he is gone. Short of an All-Ireland title or final appearance I don't see the necessary support to carry him through again. Also by the sounds of things he's said of late/changes he made at the end of last season I think he realises this is the end too.

What has Mickey said or done to indicate this is the end for him?
#6
Tyrone / Re: Champion Tipster ACL Div1 2014
April 11, 2014, 08:46:41 AM
Carrickmore v Coalisland
Donaghmore v E Ciaran
Strabane v Clonoe
Omagh v Eskra
Moortown v Ardboe
Moy v Augher
Cookstown v Killyclogher
Dromore v Eglish
#7
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 07, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 07, 2014, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on January 07, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 07, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: whatsthescore on January 07, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Where bouts is this new stand going in garvaghy? How many spectators can it hold?


It'll be on the fenced off pitch and it will mobile so that it can be moved to suit the prevailing winds.

It'll hold enough for club Tyrone members. Plenty big.

What about the Garvaghey patrons?

Will they get a special seat? Maybe something like those ones you see the subs sitting on in Croke Park?

These ones ?.



Yes those!!
#8
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 07, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 07, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: whatsthescore on January 07, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Where bouts is this new stand going in garvaghy? How many spectators can it hold?


It'll be on the fenced off pitch and it will mobile so that it can be moved to suit the prevailing winds.

It'll hold enough for club Tyrone members. Plenty big.

What about the Garvaghey patrons?

Will they get a special seat? Maybe something like those ones you see the subs sitting on in Croke Park?
#9
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 04, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on November 04, 2013, 10:33:20 AM
I could be wrong, but the chat after their championship defeat to Trillick was that they needed to bring in their young players from the past two minor winning teams as they didn't have the legs in the championship match. As I said I could be off the mark. Loughshore lad where are you ?
Yer man with the poodle alledgedly said that this needed to be done, and that Trillick ended up having 7 minors on against Ardboe in the sen championship from last years minor final against Ardboe , whilst Ardboe had only one.

Nows theres a bit of craic for you.

From what I recall the Ardboe team that started each championship game would not have contained any more than two players over 30. It is correct that of the Ardboe minor team that beat Trillick last year only Michael Cassidy played in this years senior championship while Trillick played a number over the two games. That's not to say that was the sole reason Ardboe lost, I don't know of anyone who said that. Michael Cassidy was MOM in the minor final last year and struggled in the senior championship this year, there are no guarantees that all, or any of these players, will step up - obviously we hope many do.
#10
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 08, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 08, 2013, 02:51:56 PM
Looking forward to the Tyrone final on Sunday as we will be playing the winners the following Sunday in Ulster. I presume if it finishes a draw extra time will be played.

Looks like Clonoe are warm favourites, but surely Carrickmore will be hungry for this one, not having won it since 2005.

When was the last time a team won 3 in a row Tyrone senior C'ships?

It will have to be ET if its level at the end of normal time due to the Ulster Club being the next week. 

It was the same scenario in 2008 when Clonoe beat Dromore AET and had to play St Eunan's a week later.  In 2011 Dromore had to play Ballinderry a week after winning the county title, when they beat Clonoe in the final. 

I think Clonoe will win next week but it will be a mighty battle with Carmen who are a championship team but regardless of who wins its ludicrous the Tyrone CCC have put the winner in that position and its a massive advantage for Ballinderry.

The fixtures in Tyrone this year have been a complete mess.
#11
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 07, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
Very impressive from Clonoe yesterday, don't ever recall errigal as comprehensively beaten in the championship. Their play was excellent mixing short and long ball while as ever very strong defensively. Stevie McMulty, Dwayne Quinn and PJ Lavery were all excellent on Peter Harte, Tommy Canavan and Ciaran McGinley respectively not only blotting them out but driving forward and scoring. Collie Doris was exceptional around the middle with the two men up front causing plenty of bother.
#12
Quote from: SkillfulBill on September 24, 2013, 05:42:56 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 24, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
From the Tyrone side, I thought Mulgrew looked very good, is he the lad who's only 15? Thought he picked some great passes on Sunday

Hate to burst your bubble but he is a hell of a good sweeper for his club minor side. Seen him in championship semi v coalisland and he was exceptional in the sweeper role.  A very intelligent player for a 15 year old big frank and brian mcguigan must be rubbing of on him.

Doesn't usually play sweeper for Ardboe minors but did in the league semi final that night. Can easily play in any number of positions and is an absolutely fantastic player.
#13
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 08, 2013, 10:28:18 AM
Quote from: Tommo2 on September 08, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
I see the. Arddboe/Trillick replay will be on Wednesday evening. Are Omagh and Garvaghey the only 2 options for flood-lit games? Were Tommy and Brian Mcguigan injured as they only came on as subs?

I can't see how it will be anywhere other than Omagh or Garvaghey.

Tommy played the full game, Brian came on after about 20 minutes - I don't think he was injured.
#14
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 17, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
Kildare have not beaten a top side in the Championship in god knows how many years.  McGeeney obviously isn't as good a coach as people try to make him out to be.  Tyrone should win this game, although the home advantage etc will make it a tight enough slug fest.

Big statement there. 

By that definition you could argue that Harte is no longer a good coach either as 2008 is the last time Tyrone beat a so called big team in the championship.
#15
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 21, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: Club Rossa on June 21, 2013, 10:05:31 PM
Excellent performance from our u 14s who beat Errigal 5-8 to 1-8 in the championship final tonight.These lads are progressing nicely having won the u 13 grade 2 league last year.

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