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RedandGreenSniper

Quote from: Tubberman on December 17, 2010, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 17, 2010, 09:53:04 PM
Rob Hennelly was on 'Take me out', a cheesy version of Blind Date on TV3. He said he was a Gleek which presumably is a Breaffy ailment. He escorted some blond Jackeen off at the end who admitted to 'flashing buses'.

R&GS, any updates?

My God, and we thought Brolly, Spillane etc were bad with Mortimer and McDonald with the bleached hair and tattoos!
Wait til they get a hold of this!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ffuCVLECpY
Mayo for Sam! Just don't ask me for a year

REDCOL

Mayo Ladies Report

Conclusions



Having taken submissions from many clubs, players, former players, club officials, parents, former managers and county board officials, we conclude that Ladies Gaelic Football is in a healthy state in Mayo.  All contributors were loud in their praise of the current County Board for their running of the affairs in the county.  Club competitions and fixtures have improved immensely under the present administration.  Under age county teams are also thriving which is borne out by their achievements this year.  The major area of concern is with the senior county team.  In saying this, everyone to whom we spoke was of the opinion that Mayo Ladies senior team can be successful and bring more honours to the county.



A number of reasons were put forward for the failure to hold on to managers over the years but the majority by far felt that the problem lay with a few of the more senior players who constantly tried to exercise control over the team.  It was said that this should have been tackled some years ago, when one manager left, but it was let carry on and managers preferred to leave rather than rock the boat. This situation was exasperated by the poor procedures adopted by the County Board in the appointment of managers.  The clubs attending county board in the current year were fed up with senior team problems at county board meetings and decided to deal with the matter and bring the issue to a head.  This led to the withdrawal of the team from the championship.  Practically all said the issue won't be resolved until a manager is appointed who will deal with the players involved, if needed, and that such a manager must receive the full backing of county board.



Recommendations



1.   A manager needs to be put in place as soon as possible and that this manager is given at least two years contract, subject to review after year one.  It is recommended that Central Council or another independent body should assist the County Board in appointing a manager.



2.  An agreed liaison officer must be appointed to keep all sides informed of ongoing developments.



3.  A full back up team including physio, coach and selectors must also be appointed.  It is recommended that a selector be appointed from each geographical region in the county i.e., north, south, east and west.



4.  Managers, selectors, liaison officer etc must have their roles and duties clearly defined.



5. The incoming management team, including physio and Liaison Officer must attend

  a county mentor workshop organised by Central Council.



6.  All sides must buy into the philosophy that:



        (a)    Players play

        (b)    Managers manage

(c)          County Board administers football affairs in the county.



7. The incoming team Management should set up dialogue with players who have withdrawn from the panel or who do not wish to join the panel because of the intimidation factor. These fears must be allayed and they should be reassured about their welcome to the squad.



8.  A code of conduct should be drawn up by Central Council for all persons involved in Ladies Gaelic Football.  This should be along the lines of the codes contained in the Code of Ethics.



9.  We recommend the holding of a Club Officer programme in the county.



10.  A Volunteer recruitment program should be run.



Finally we would like to restate our thanks to all contributors for their submissions to us and we hope that our suggestions which have been made in the spirit of reconciliation will assist Mayo LGFA to move forward with all  footballing activity within the county and we wish all members of the LGFA  in Mayo continued success in the future.



It is fairly damning stuff and seems to back up the claims of the last management, the line about the intimidation factor when joining the panel is unbelievable.

muppet

Personally I find it hard to take that report seriously. It reads like someones dream document rather than an independent report.

Anyone 'intimidated' off a panel by their own team mates is hardly someone you want with you in the heat of the Championship is it? God knows what they would make of opponents intimidating them.
MWWSI 2017

RedandGreenSniper

Quote from: REDCOL on December 18, 2010, 11:42:54 AM
Mayo Ladies Report

Conclusions



Having taken submissions from many clubs, players, former players, club officials, parents, former managers and county board officials, we conclude that Ladies Gaelic Football is in a healthy state in Mayo.  All contributors were loud in their praise of the current County Board for their running of the affairs in the county.  Club competitions and fixtures have improved immensely under the present administration.  Under age county teams are also thriving which is borne out by their achievements this year.  The major area of concern is with the senior county team.  In saying this, everyone to whom we spoke was of the opinion that Mayo Ladies senior team can be successful and bring more honours to the county.



A number of reasons were put forward for the failure to hold on to managers over the years but the majority by far felt that the problem lay with a few of the more senior players who constantly tried to exercise control over the team.  It was said that this should have been tackled some years ago, when one manager left, but it was let carry on and managers preferred to leave rather than rock the boat. This situation was exasperated by the poor procedures adopted by the County Board in the appointment of managers.  The clubs attending county board in the current year were fed up with senior team problems at county board meetings and decided to deal with the matter and bring the issue to a head.  This led to the withdrawal of the team from the championship.  Practically all said the issue won't be resolved until a manager is appointed who will deal with the players involved, if needed, and that such a manager must receive the full backing of county board.



Recommendations



1.   A manager needs to be put in place as soon as possible and that this manager is given at least two years contract, subject to review after year one.  It is recommended that Central Council or another independent body should assist the County Board in appointing a manager.



2.  An agreed liaison officer must be appointed to keep all sides informed of ongoing developments.



3.  A full back up team including physio, coach and selectors must also be appointed.  It is recommended that a selector be appointed from each geographical region in the county i.e., north, south, east and west.



4.  Managers, selectors, liaison officer etc must have their roles and duties clearly defined.



5. The incoming management team, including physio and Liaison Officer must attend

  a county mentor workshop organised by Central Council.



6.  All sides must buy into the philosophy that:



        (a)    Players play

        (b)    Managers manage

(c)          County Board administers football affairs in the county.



7. The incoming team Management should set up dialogue with players who have withdrawn from the panel or who do not wish to join the panel because of the intimidation factor. These fears must be allayed and they should be reassured about their welcome to the squad.



8.  A code of conduct should be drawn up by Central Council for all persons involved in Ladies Gaelic Football.  This should be along the lines of the codes contained in the Code of Ethics.



9.  We recommend the holding of a Club Officer programme in the county.



10.  A Volunteer recruitment program should be run.



Finally we would like to restate our thanks to all contributors for their submissions to us and we hope that our suggestions which have been made in the spirit of reconciliation will assist Mayo LGFA to move forward with all  footballing activity within the county and we wish all members of the LGFA  in Mayo continued success in the future.



It is fairly damning stuff and seems to back up the claims of the last management, the line about the intimidation factor when joining the panel is unbelievable.

I didn't need to read any further than what I've highlighted in bold to know the report was a sham. Anyone who has seen the county board in operation both in terms of the county teams and club fixtures knows how appaling the set-up in Mayo Ladies football. A lot of club footballers go four months in the middle of the year without any football. Mayo, so long a powerhouse in Ladies football, have taken to competing at B grade at underage level. Any progress made by the successes of the senior team at the turn of the century has been not only stymied but put into reverse. And we think we have problems with the mens game . . .
Mayo for Sam! Just don't ask me for a year

REDCOL

John O'Mahony interview in Indo

(Mayo)

Q What's the best thing you did all season?

A Qualification for Division 1 final by beating Kerry, Derry, Tyrone and Cork away from home.

Introducing some young players to the panel, for example Enda Varley, Neil Douglas, Shane Nally, and giving first team places to other young players who had come in to the squad the previous year, such as Donal Vaughan, Seamus O'Shea, Chris Barrett.

Q What's the one thing, with the benefit of hindsight, you'd do differently?

A Not really. We needed the run in the league to build confidence.

Q Would you have liked to stay on, and why?

A To stay on we would have had to have shown progress in the championship, ie (have reached the) quarter/semi-final. That didn't happen for various reasons so having been there four years, I felt the time had come to hand over to someone else. I would have liked to have finished with a good championship run, which I am confident the team can have in 2011, but patience is not in plentiful supply in Mayo over the years and I believe in accountability.

Q Do you see yourself managing a county team again?

A Yes.

Tubberman

I heard last week that there were more trials scheduled to take place yesterday. Anyone go along for a look or hear how they went?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

REDCOL

Heard James Kilcullen, Aidan Campbell, Jason Gibbons played well. Barry Moran was tried Midfield, Trev Mort gone travelling for two months, conor injured. Most of last years lads involved two 15 a side games so at least 60 players looked at.

RedandGreenSniper

Think a good few Junior players from clubs like Islandeady, Moygownagh, Ardnaree, The Neale etc were given a shot on Sunday's trial. Think Donal Vaughan and Seamie O'Shea are out for the FBD and Mayo will be caught without a good few colleges players for the FBD too. I'd imagine there'll be a good few new names on Sunday. Good to hear guys with the ability required like James Kilcullen and Aidan Campbell are back in the fold. Hopefully they'll take to it fairly well.
Mayo for Sam! Just don't ask me for a year

REDCOL

Good to see the junior players getting a chance, interesting to note Jimmy Killeen is not in the top 65 players in the county. We have some talent it seems   :o. Anyway hope to be in Ballinamore on Sunday to see how the lads shape up, really looking forward to seeing Jason Gibbons getting a run

AbbeySider

Is the Mort being misquoted below?  ???

Quote
Mortimer could miss season
04 January 2011

Conor Mortimer could miss Mayo's entire 2011 campaign if he decides to undergo surgery to repair a long-standing knee problem.

The star attacker tore his medial ligament injury in left knee while training with UUJ before Christmas and, having played with no cruciate in the same knee for the past seven years, surgery may be the only option for him.

"It's weaker than it's ever been," the Shrule-Glencorrib clubman said.

"Fairly bad is how I would put it. I won't know until the end of the month when the medial ligament injury clears up and I can see just how bad the knee is. I've managed to go without the cruciate for so long, but now may be the time to get it over and done with."

Mortimer accepts that 2011 could be a write-off for him if he decides to go under the knife.

"I might have to draw a line under the season altogether and that's not the greatest thought in the world," he continued.

"Then again, it may turn out I can go on without it for another season. I just don't know. Right now, it doesn't feel like I can ignore surgery but all I can do is wait and hope it doesn't come to that."


I couldnt believe my eyes when I read the bits in bold. No cruciate ligament for 7 years?

Sounds a bit far fetched... I heard of some All Black rugby forwards with no cruciates, but their enormous power in the quads meant that they could run in straight lines only; and maybe that is even urban myth. I cant fathom any GAA player playing with cruciate, and not even a knee support.  ::)

mortified

Quote from: AbbeySider on January 05, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Is the Mort being misquoted below?  ???

Quote
Mortimer could miss season
04 January 2011

Conor Mortimer could miss Mayo's entire 2011 campaign if he decides to undergo surgery to repair a long-standing knee problem.

The star attacker tore his medial ligament injury in left knee while training with UUJ before Christmas and, having played with no cruciate in the same knee for the past seven years, surgery may be the only option for him.

"It's weaker than it's ever been," the Shrule-Glencorrib clubman said.

"Fairly bad is how I would put it. I won't know until the end of the month when the medial ligament injury clears up and I can see just how bad the knee is. I've managed to go without the cruciate for so long, but now may be the time to get it over and done with."

Mortimer accepts that 2011 could be a write-off for him if he decides to go under the knife.

"I might have to draw a line under the season altogether and that's not the greatest thought in the world," he continued.

"Then again, it may turn out I can go on without it for another season. I just don't know. Right now, it doesn't feel like I can ignore surgery but all I can do is wait and hope it doesn't come to that."


I couldnt believe my eyes when I read the bits in bold. No cruciate ligament for 7 years?

Sounds a bit far fetched... I heard of some All Black rugby forwards with no cruciates, but their enormous power in the quads meant that they could run in straight lines only; and maybe that is even urban myth. I cant fathom any GAA player playing with cruciate, and not even a knee support.  ::)


ya but the mort is no ordinary GAA player!!
quit your jibba jabba fool!!

Johnny Drama

From HS:

Ballintubber pair named in Mayo line-up
06 January 2011

New Mayo manager James Horan has included two of his county championship winning Ballintubber team in his line-up for Sunday's FBD Connacht League opener against Leitrim.

Cathal Hallinan and Mike Nestor have been named at right corner back and centre back respectively for the trip to Ballinamore. Among the other new faces are Castlebar's Richie Feeney, Kevin Dolan of Tourmakeady and Crossmolina's Brian Benson.

Experience is provided by the likes of David Clarke, Ger Cafferkey, Trevor Howley, Ronan McGarritty, Barry Moran, Andy Moran, Aidan Kilcoyne and the Dublin-based Austin O'Malley, who has returned to the fold after missing last season.

Mayo (SF v Leitrim): D Clarke; C Hallinan, G Cafferkey, R Feeney; T Howley, M Nestor, C Barrett; R McGarrity, B Moran; A Campbell, A O'Malley, A Kilcoyne; K Dolan, A Moran (captain), B Benson.

So far it seems Horan has taken the right approach, there would have been no hope of some of these lads getting a chance in other years. Has anyone heard who else is involved in the panel for the weekend?


AbbeySider

Quote from: Johnny Drama on January 06, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
Ballintubber pair named in Mayo line-up
06 January 2011

New Mayo manager James Horan has included two of his county championship winning Ballintubber team in his line-up for Sunday's FBD Connacht League opener against Leitrim.

Cathal Hallinan and Mike Nestor have been named at right corner back and centre back respectively for the trip to Ballinamore. Among the other new faces are Castlebar's Richie Feeney, Kevin Dolan of Tourmakeady and Crossmolina's Brian Benson.

Experience is provided by the likes of David Clarke, Ger Cafferkey, Trevor Howley, Ronan McGarritty, Barry Moran, Andy Moran, Aidan Kilcoyne and the Dublin-based Austin O'Malley, who has returned to the fold after missing last season.

Mayo (SF v Leitrim): D Clarke; C Hallinan, G Cafferkey, R Feeney; T Howley, M Nestor, C Barrett; R McGarrity, B Moran; A Campbell, A O'Malley, A Kilcoyne; K Dolan, A Moran (captain), B Benson.

So far it seems Horan has taken the right approach, there would have been no hope of some of these lads getting a chance in other years. Has anyone heard who else is involved in the panel for the weekend?

Ya I think so too Johnny.

Its really refreshing to see some of these lads given a chance in the FBD. From what I can gather we may see a different team line out for the FBD games as they are being used to have a proper look at guys. I guess you can only learn so much from trial games.

Hopefully we will see some of the new faces do well. I didnt hear much about the panel for the game so I guess we will see will Mid West have it later. I do know that up to 15 or more of the panel from last year are unavailable through playing with colleges and injury.

Tubberman

Full panel is up on mayogaa.com

Apologies for the formatting - don't have time to sort it all out  :)

FBD Connacht Senior Football League 9n Eanáir 2011
Foireann Sinsir Mhaigh Eo in aghaidh Liatroma
í Béal an Átha Móir

1 David Clarke Daithí Ó Cléirigh Ballina Stephenites
2 Cathal Hallinan Cathal Hallinán Ballintubber
3 Ger Cafferkey Gearoid MacEafarcaigh Ballina Stephenites
4 Richie Feeney Risteard Ó Fiannaí Castlebar Mitchels
5 Trevor Howley Traolach Ó hUallaigh Knockmore
6 Mike Nestor Mícháel Ó Nestor Ballintubber
7 Chris Barrett Críostóir de Bairéid Belmullet
8 Ronan McGarrity Ronán MacFheartaigh Ballina Stephenites
9 Barry Moran Bairre Ó Móráin Castlebar Mitchels
10 Aidan Campbell Aidán Campbell Swinford
11 Austin O'Malley Oistín Ó Máille St. Vincents
12 Aidan Kilcoyne Aidán Kilcoyne Knockmore
13 Kevin Dolan Caoimhín Ó Dobhailein Tourmakeady
14 Andy Moran (Captain) Aindriú Ó Moráin Ballaghaderreen
15 Brian Benson Brian Ni Benson Crossmolina
16 Kenneth O'Malley Cionnait Ó Máille Ballinrobe
17 Alan Feeney Alan Ó Fiannaí Castlebar Mitchels
18 David Killeen Dáithí Ó Cillin Ballinrobe
19 Jason Gibbons Séasán Gibbons Ballintubber
20 James McAndrew Séamus Mac Andrew Killcommon
21 Ruairi O'Connor Ruairi Ó Choncuir Ballintubber
22 James Burke Séamus de Búrca Dublin
23 Andrew Farrell Aindriú Ó Fearghail Killala
24 Mark Ronaldson Marc MacRaghnaill Shrule-Glencorrib
25 Enda Varley Eanna Mac an Bhearlaigh Garrymore
26 Cillian O'Connor Cillian Ó Choncuir Ballintubber


James Horan Seámus Ó hÓráin Bainisteoir
Martin Connolly Máirtín Ó Conghóile Roghnóir
Paul Jordan Pól Mac Shiúrtáin Roghnóir
James Nallen Séamus Mac Naílínı Roghnóir
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Tubberman

Anyone know if this is true?

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=140376

QuoteMayo star Billy Joe Padden is on the verge of a switch to Armagh having completed a transfer from his native Belmullet to south Armagh club Carrickcruppen.

According to The Irish News, the 29-year-old has already been training with Paddy O'Rourke's squad and could be added to the panel ahead of next month's National Football League campaign when the Orchard men will make their return to the top flight.

Padden, who is the son of Mayo legend Willie Joe and a winner three Connacht title with his native county, has strong links with Camlough in Armagh and has experienced Ulster football having won a Sigerson All Star with Queen's University, Belfast in 2004.

If added to O'Rourke's panel, Padden would be a valuable asset to the Division Two champions as his versatility allows him to line-out at centre-field or in attack.

Is BJ actually switching to Armagh, or just training with them since he's not in either Mayo or Dublin to join the rest of the Mayo training sessions?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."