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Refereeing mistake:

2003 All Ireland semi final - the referee's inexplicable failure to send off John McEntee for his forearm smash on Barry Monaghan with less than ten minutes to go, the game on a knife edge and the ref standing a couple of feet away. McEntee contributed to Armagh's two injury-time scores that won the game. In the same match, Ray Sweeney was sent off early in the second half, while Kieran McGeeney stayed on despite persistant fouling.

Don't worry J70 - the persistant fouling was well highlighted in the post match analysis, to the extent that at the handshake in Armagh's next match, the first words by Brian to Geezer were, "You watch the fouling'. It seemed to play on Brian's mind in the first half of that game! 

You have me at a bit of a loss here: I don't remember the details of Brian McGuigan's performance against McGeeney in the final!

Or are we talking about some other "Brian"?  Did Brian White ref the final?

Never thought of Brian McGuigan - you're correct - I'm referring to Brain White!

Refereeing mistake:

2003 All Ireland semi final - the referee's inexplicable failure to send off John McEntee for his forearm smash on Barry Monaghan with less than ten minutes to go, the game on a knife edge and the ref standing a couple of feet away. McEntee contributed to Armagh's two injury-time scores that won the game. In the same match, Ray Sweeney was sent off early in the second half, while Kieran McGeeney stayed on despite persistant fouling.

Don't worry J70 - the persistant fouling was well highlighted in the post match analysis, to the extent that at the handshake in Armagh's next match, the first words by Brian to Geezer were, "You watch the fouling'. It seemed to play on Brian's mind in the first half of that game! 

I know you said no stupid scenarios but I have two q's
1. Right, a player cannot hand pass the ball to the bet, but if it gets a slight deflection, will it be counted?
2. Can someone hand pass the ball to themselves, ie over someone's head?

My understanding would be that in scenario 1. the goal would stand - a bit like the scenario in soccer where an indirect free kick is deflected in, and in 2. you can hand pass the ball to yourself IF it bounces, but you can not take it on the full!   

Isn' it funny how mistakes in the first 65 minutes that lead to scores never seem to cost games. Still those scores are there on the scoreboard too, along with the 'real' scores from the last five minutes.

Spot on Hardy - last years Armagh v Tyrone semi-final is getting mentioned quite a lot here. Armagh players and management were guilty of some bad mistakes that led to Tyrone's last two points.

Yet I know a fella that knows Stevie, and he told me Stevie was haunted by a straightforward chance that he blazed wide, from in front of the nets (going for a point), midway through the second half. Stevie cut in froim the left, on to his right foot, and a simple tap over was there for the taking! I remember it well!   

By the way - just to point out - I'm not blaming Stevie - just highlighting the fact that the final score is an accumulation of many mistakes over seventy minutes!   

Bud

We are all getting tarred with the one brush, by the actions of a few. - As far as I am concerned all ye Alaskan's are the same. There is no point in blaming Tony Fearon because collectively ye post so much rubbish in one day than most anyone could post in five years



Seriously Bud - it really is time to hit the high seas! 

Well lads, the big day has arrived !!
After a few years and several thousand posts, the real slim shady will now have to stand up.

I will now explain.
When todays referee waved a red card at cargins goalkeeper adrian craig. the manager JC turned to the bench and wagged the finger at none other than Mr S.Shady !

With craig going to get a suspension, it looks like our main man will have the No.1 on his back for the replay next week in Clones.

You see the way slim always talked on this board you would have thought he was cargin's star man. Well now he has the chance.

Good luck mate. Your in the spotlight now. If you drop a clanger next week, the irish news, daily star, daily mirror, UTV Live, newsline - everyone will be on your back - and i cant see much sympathy been dished out on here !!

Goakeeper's union time!

Do the bizzo next week Slim - I'll be watching out for you on the Sports round up - no problem Kid! 

Now that things have died down a bit anybody else feel that the Aussies underlined how ordinary we are at our national game.Like the English soccer public we often talk big about our footballers, unlike the English we don't have a World Cup to show us poorly we play the game we invented. Futher evidence  can be taken from the weekend just past when talented well prepared club teams from around the country failed to get more than 5 scores in 60 minutes of football   

Regarding your opening question, my answer is no. Many people for some reason view The International Rules/Compromise Rules as being closer to Gaelic than to Aussie Rules - the round ball is highlighted as the reason. In my opinion the tackle far outweighs the round ball argument and renders the notion, that last week's game is comparable to Gaelic, as obsolete.

It follows therefore that nothing about the skills of our players can be read into last week's fiasco.

I ask again - what does Bud want us to talk about? I'll append to this, what on earth does Kerry Mike want us to talk about? For example, during the last couple of weeks of the old board, one of the most popular threads was "do you prefer to wear one pair of socks or two?" If that's the type of "general talk" you fellas want, well please turn the lights off after you leave. Give me a match report from an Armagh Harps under-14 friendly any day.

There are three posters on the board who are genuinely intent on having their every thought read, and as such they open a new thread every time to achieve this aim - theGael, Tony Fearon and, to a lesser extent, realredhandfan1. Please do not tar Ulster fans as a result of their actions. You'll find neatly condensed threads on Down, Derry, Armagh, Antrim and Tyrone club football on this board, and that's where you'll find the majority of posters from those counties posting mostly in those threads.

We have a choice with the aformentioned trio, we either ignore them, or we play into their hands.   

Bottom line though gents is that you can't call for changes to make the board more interesting and highbrow unless you are going to start the sea change by posting more interesting and highbrow articles yourself. The trouble, you will no doubt find (if not already), is that having posted on a GAA messsageboard for years as you both have, general topics to talk about dry up - but club and county situations continue to change, if only slightly, on a daily basis.

Good man Wobbler - on the money as usual!  

By the way, is this the deathknell for my 'Armagh Harps Social Club' thread, on non GAA Discussion?  

The first page of threads on what is supposed to be a GAA Discussion Board as opposed to free club websites reads as follows;
Ulster Club Championships, Ulster Club SFC, Donegal Club Jurling and Football, Down Club Hurling and Football, Tyrone Club Hurling and Football,Armagh Club Hurling and Football, Antrim Hurling and Football, Derry Club..... and on and on and on.

I thought the idea of the board was for general GAA Discussion.  Fair enough, the thread Ulster Club Championships makes sense but wht have we to suffer add ons like Ulster Club SFC and on and on.  I wouldn't mind only TG4 showed the Errigal Ciaran game yesterday and it was like watching paint dry.  Quite frankly I am sick of all the nordies taking over the board.

Bud - time to get your trawler out of dry dock - you're like a man that's bored!   

And Newcastle - is it called St Patrick's Park?

Casement Park, Belfast (before the flood lights)

Another one of Casement without the lights.

IT Ignoramus - trying this out. 

I see some of the regular threads on the Old Board beginning to be locked, e.g Antrim, Tyrone Hurling and Football - just out of curiosity, why? 

[Na ClairsighArd Mhacha10th September 19898th September 199122nd September 2002.]

Na Clairsigh

Ard Mhacha

10th September 1989

8th September 1991

22nd September 2002.

Just to mention a few dates coming up that may be of interest.

70s Night in the Club - Saturday 18th November (organised by the Ladies Football Team)

Harps Annual Mass - St Malachys Chapel - Thursday 23rd November 7.30 pm

AGM - Monday 27th November (* Please note that Nomination/Motions Forms are available from the Club - these must be submitted by Friday 24th november at the latest.)

Presentation Night - Saturday 9th December in the Club

Race Day - Fairyhouse - Saturday 10th March