Brexit.

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tyroneman

Quote from: yellowcard on October 17, 2019, 02:48:31 PM
Yet another Twitter statement release from the DUP.

This is their new form of media since they have lost the ability to move their mouths. Limited tv and radio appearances, they now communicate predominantly through twitter.

Someone should tell them there are gay folks, catholics and Irish people using twitter...they'll be off it quick enough

red hander

Quote from: screenexile on October 17, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
In fairness to Boris he's gone all in now!

If the deal doesn't pass Parliament he has to go for the extension and the General Election.

If that's the case he can't run on a No Deal platform he'll have to campaign on his deal which brings the Brexit Party into play! They haven't said it yet but there's no way they're going for it which rules out an election pact.

The numbers in the commons is key he's currently -45 votes ... there's a good chance he'll get a chunk of the 21 back but can he convince enough Labour MP's to go for it and can he talk the DUP round??

I'm waiting for someone with more knowledge of the detail to confirm it to me but does anyone know what exactly this means for the North??

'May you live in interesting times'

Franko

Quote from: t_mac on October 17, 2019, 02:19:26 PM
Junker just confirmed there will be no extension - it could all get very messy - so 31st October UK is out deal or no deal, enjoy the trick and treating folks.

1.  That's not what he said.
2.  It's not his call to make.

lurganblue

A "simple majority" vote in Stormont every 4 years... since when has that been a feature of government here?

tyroneman

Quote from: lurganblue on October 17, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
A "simple majority" vote in Stormont every 4 years... since when has that been a feature of government here?

Simple politics have been the ONLY politics here....vote for us and it stops themmuns

seafoid

FT saying that the feeling is now that Johnson will not have a majority on Saturday
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

johnnycool


seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/2f5c92a2-f0d6-11e9-bfa4-b25f11f42901

   "James Forsyth in The Spectator has a good assessment of where the problem lies. He says Mark Spencer, the Conservative chief whip, calculated last night that if the DUP backs Mr Johnson, the government will win on Saturday with a majority of just one.

That majority would be made up of all Tory MPs, 15 independent Conservatives, the DUP plus nine Labour rebels in Leave constituencies who would be defying their own party whip."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Aguisin

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/17/nicola-sturgeon-says-unfair-brexit-deal-means-scots-must-have/

Ms Sturgeon said the deal would leave Scotland at a competitive disadvantage with Northern Ireland and it was "democratically unacceptable" for Scotland to be facing an outcome it did not vote for.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


yellowcard

Quote from: seafoid on October 17, 2019, 04:51:21 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/2f5c92a2-f0d6-11e9-bfa4-b25f11f42901

   "James Forsyth in The Spectator has a good assessment of where the problem lies. He says Mark Spencer, the Conservative chief whip, calculated last night that if the DUP backs Mr Johnson, the government will win on Saturday with a majority of just one.

That majority would be made up of all Tory MPs, 15 independent Conservatives, the DUP plus nine Labour rebels in Leave constituencies who would be defying their own party whip."

If that is the case and the DUP are potential dealmakers then expect the DUP to come under serious political pressure to back the deal in the UK media. They face a choice whether to appease their own hardline base and vote it down but then they could be seen in middle England as the party that thwarted Brexit altogether. Or vote for the deal and face the wrath of hardline loyalists and the orange order who they appear to have to run every big decision past instead of leading them. Back to where Theresa May was before the last meaningful vote but I don't see them budging.   

t_mac

Tusk not ruling out an extension.

weareros

Very good move by EU in seemingly rejecting an extension. Will it scare enough Labour into voting yes, or a No Deal will fall on their shoulders along with DUP. Boris I must say a lot smarter than I gave him credit for. Although he still could end up being the shortest PM in UK history. High stakes Saturday and then there's the rugby.

seafoid

Martin Wolf in the FT calls the deal
monstrous and says there should be a  People's vote
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU