Should An Glenn object?

[seafoid]

Anyone else getting annoyed by the misspelling of Glen / An Gleann?

It's dreadful

[blanketattack]

Where are all these precedents of the GAA deciding on a replay and one or both teams refusing to take part?
Every Tom, Dick and Harry are certain there'll be no reply because Glen won't take part or KC won't take part, yet anytime a replay has been ordered in a high profile game, both teams agreed to and took part in the replay.
The replay will happen and both teams will take part. Fact.

[Armagh18]

Walsh travelling, Mannion injured, Derry lads back to county. Can see it not being played tbh

[Walter Cronc]

All student life must be fairly relaxed these days that a man can go travelling!

[Rossfan]

The replay will happen and both teams will take part. Fact.

No that's a prediction!

[Wildweasel74]

Well why is this a suprise to anybody. Red cards get appealed all the time to get players off ( not on the fact they done the offence) due to technicalities. Nobody complains cause its getting off their players. The rule book needs updated but them useless bollacks at HQ don't bother. Too worried about the nxt money making concert. The 2 Clare Hurlers the biggest example. Their County board must hardened their edge, as they offered Offaly a replay on the All-Ireland Hurling final in 1998. But there no chance of Crokes doing what Offaly did back them. Again Clare weren't at Fault but the ref. They gave a replay as they thought they beat Offaly.

[seafoid]

Walsh travelling, Mannion injured, Derry lads back to county. Can see it not being played tbh

Why not? Doesn't have to be played immediately.

[imtommygunn]

Is Mannion injured again?

[blanketattack]

Walsh travelling, Mannion injured, Derry lads back to county. Can see it not being played tbh

Kilmacud Crokes did OK with Mannion and Walsh missing the first day, so should cope alright with them missing the replay.

[PMG1]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time 

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/02/01/kilmacud-crokes-set-to-appeal-cccc-ruling-that-all-ireland-final-should-be-replayed/

Kilmacud Crokes are set to appeal the Central Competitions Control Committee's (CCCC) ruling that the 2023 All-Ireland club senior football final should be replayed.
And the predominant feeling within the South Dublin club appears to be that they are prepared to take their challenge against the CCCC's decision all the way to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA), if necessary. Several meetings have taken place involving club officials and team management since Tuesday morning's confirmation that a replay was the CCCC's judgment, as Kilmacud Crokes consider their next move.  The club has until Friday morning to appeal the decision to the Central Appeals Committee (CAC), and the indications from the Stillorgan outfit are that they will be engaging with the GAA's disciplinary process.
Kilmacud's strongest chance of overturning the CCCC's ruling remains by having their case heard by the DRA, an external independent body, but they must first exhaust the GAA's disciplinary system before they can get to that stage.
The CAC rules largely on procedural grounds and the GAA's Official Guide states appeals shall only be upheld where: '(i) there has been a clear infringement or misapplication of Rule by the Decision-Maker or (ii) the Appellant's right to a fair hearing has otherwise been compromised to such extent that a clear injustice has occurred.'

Kilmacud's view is that what happened in relation to substitutions in the closing stages of their two-point All-Ireland final win over Glen was primarily the fault of the match day officials.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Kilmacud's view is that what happened in relation to substitutions in the closing stages of their two-point All-Ireland final win over Glen was primarily the fault of the match day officials.

Kilmacud are responsible for how they field a team.

If a player takes 10 steps without soloing the ball, its not the referee's fault they took 10 steps.

[johnnycool]

Kilmacud's view is that what happened in relation to substitutions in the closing stages of their two-point All-Ireland final win over Glen was primarily the fault of the match day officials.

Kilmacud are responsible for how they field a team.

If a player takes 10 steps without soloing the ball, its not the referee's fault they took 10 steps.

But if the referee didn't blow for the foul you'd suggest that player and his team got away with it.

Your analogy isn't a good one and if anything strengthens the Crokes argument.

[seafoid]

Kilmacud's view is that what happened in relation to substitutions in the closing stages of their two-point All-Ireland final win over Glen was primarily the fault of the match day officials.

Kilmacud are responsible for how they field a team.

If a player takes 10 steps without soloing the ball, its not the referee's fault they took 10 steps.

The appeals process usually deals with ref issues such as sendings off and suspensions.  There is a lot of negotiation.
There is a large bank of cases and decisions for both club and intercounty . Every county knows how it works, as do  all GAA journalists.
This "ref" element of the appeals process is famous.

https://munster.gaa.ie/clubs/guide-to-appeals-process/

Nobody knows how the "rules" process works because it is not about the ref. The Muster GAA website has nothing on it.  It is about the rules. And the KC defence ignores the rules.
The rules cannot be negotiated. Nobody knows how the GAA will react.

"We had 16 players but we didn't know" could be replicated over and over  in the championship . It would legalise shithousery.
The farrago  could come to an end  sooner than people think.

[blanketattack]

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Kilmacud's view is that what happened in relation to substitutions in the closing stages of their two-point All-Ireland final win over Glen was primarily the fault of the match day officials.

'primarily' is the key word there. It was still at least some of Kilmacud's fault that they brought on a sub without bringing a player coming off.

I also don't understand the whole "it's not our fault so there should be no replay" defense.
If the ref blew a tight game up 15 min early, it wouldn't be the winning team's fault, but that doesn't mean rules weren't broken and that there shouldn't be a replay.