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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by JoG2 - Today at 08:29:43 AM

Just goes to show anyone can beat anyone on the day. Harte is a stubborn f**ker though so I'd put money on Lynch pushing up the next day too! Not many teams have the midfield to dominate Glass!

Derry are a class side, I've no agenda here... But Conor Glass is so overrated it's unreal..another shocker performance, he saves his shockers for when Derry are in a tight spot too

I'd agree with that. Even from what I've seen at club level he's able to take it up a notch in the final 10 minutes but before that it doesn't feel like he's in the game. Seems to be the same at county level as well. Capable of a few big plays during a game but it doesn't feel like he's there consistently for 45/50 minutes

As a famous son of Derry once famously said.. 'youse boys no nothing about football'.

Do you think Conor Glass consistently impacts the game from start to finish? I don't. As I've said already he takes his game to another level in the last 10/15 minutes if needed but the rest of the game he isn't as influential as Rodgers is say

You can double down all you want but you are still talking out your hole. I've missed 1 Derry game in the last 2 years,caught a good few Glen games. I know it's a thing to reel against popular opinion etc these days but you'll be in a very very small minority who doesn't think Glass is a player at the very highest level, a rolls royce of a player. Glass is the real deal. The wee 10 mins at the end of games cameo from yourself deserves the Gene Wilder Willy Wonka meme more than any line I've heard in a while

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by thebigfullforward - Today at 08:11:50 AM

Just goes to show anyone can beat anyone on the day. Harte is a stubborn f**ker though so I'd put money on Lynch pushing up the next day too! Not many teams have the midfield to dominate Glass!

Derry are a class side, I've no agenda here... But Conor Glass is so overrated it's unreal..another shocker performance, he saves his shockers for when Derry are in a tight spot too

I'd agree with that. Even from what I've seen at club level he's able to take it up a notch in the final 10 minutes but before that it doesn't feel like he's in the game. Seems to be the same at county level as well. Capable of a few big plays during a game but it doesn't feel like he's there consistently for 45/50 minutes

As a famous son of Derry once famously said.. 'youse boys no nothing about football'.

Do you think Conor Glass consistently impacts the game from start to finish? I don't. As I've said already he takes his game to another level in the last 10/15 minutes if needed but the rest of the game he isn't as influential as Rodgers is say

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by thebigfullforward - Today at 08:08:16 AM

Just goes to show anyone can beat anyone on the day. Harte is a stubborn f**ker though so I'd put money on Lynch pushing up the next day too! Not many teams have the midfield to dominate Glass!

Derry are a class side, I've no agenda here... But Conor Glass is so overrated it's unreal..another shocker performance, he saves his shockers for when Derry are in a tight spot too

I'd agree with that. Even from what I've seen at club level he's able to take it up a notch in the final 10 minutes but before that it doesn't feel like he's in the game. Seems to be the same at county level as well. Capable of a few big plays during a game but it doesn't feel like he's there consistently for 45/50 minutes

As a famous son of Derry once famously said.. 'youse boys no nothing about football'.

Glass is some operator. Not too often he doesn't have a massive say in games and steps up when the game is in the melting pot.

That's exactly what i said lol? He often shows up when it matters in the last minutes of a game but before that i don't think he influences the game as much as other players

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster U20 football cham...

Last post by Dunneroyal - Today at 08:04:45 AM

Congratulations to Louth and Meath.  Hopefully those U-20s can be part of successful senior teams.

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Lot of them u20s are from the minor all ire and Leinster winning team from Meath.  That's why so many of us gets annoyed when we here no underage succes been spouted by o'se and co. We have extremely talented footballers coming up. Some on senior team already like frayne etc who have won Leinster at underage and indeed in this group who have minor all ire medals. Now that does not guarantee success at senior but it gives a good foundation. O'Bric the current u20 manger and the one who managed the minors to all ire has to be installed as senior manager next year. To allow these players to come through and develop what is there. I said it before under him Meath will win Leinster and challenge for sam within 5 years. But if we keep with Colm we will go nowhere and probably lose many of these players to other sports

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by Tones - Today at 07:48:05 AM

Not any lover of Tyrone, but it's very unfair a team having to play a big semi-final game just 6 days after a tight game. Def needs a 2 week breathing space between quarters and semi, plus a 2 week space to the qualifiers after the final for runners up

Absolutely. Scrap the group shite, 2 championships of 16 with a back door before the quarter finals or maybe just straight knockout be even better. Push the all ireland back to mid august.

Definitely not, the group stages are when this shadow boxing stops and the real championship begins.
I've seen various calls for provincial champions to go straight into quarter finals and other similar bollox, ludicrously, those calls have tended to be from Ulstermen. Can we not all see how that would simply reinforce the bullshit system we've had for nearly 150 years which sees kerry (and now Dublin too) advance directly to a quarter almost every year whilst the rest of us have to fight tooth and nail to get there?
For me, I'm really looking forward to groups, especially now that we all realise there is jeopardy, progressing is one thing, but progressing as group winners is a serious bonus Vs 2nd or 3rd. It's not perfect, but it's a massive step in the right direction.

Where's the Jeopardy in the group stages as soon as they are confirmed the 4 losers will be known.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by Tones - Today at 07:47:00 AM

Not any lover of Tyrone, but it's very unfair a team having to play a big semi-final game just 6 days after a tight game. Def needs a 2 week breathing space between quarters and semi, plus a 2 week space to the qualifiers after the final for runners up

Absolutely. Scrap the group shite, 2 championships of 16 with a back door before the quarter finals or maybe just straight knockout be even better. Push the all ireland back to mid august.

When would the concerts happen though?

You're a quare man for the concerts!

Only time some folk will get to Croke Park!

[Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too).]

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and...

Last post by Truthsayer - Today at 07:46:43 AM

No issue with players being blooded, transition years, need to gain experience...all that stuff....fine...

But surely you should be able to see a plan, a system, some kind of tactics beyond the basic, something to give these players a structure to develop in ...

What does that even mean? Lost their way when Hampsey went off on the black card... need to look at that. They were the much better side.

What that means is exactly what it says. It's great to see new players get brought in and given a meaningful taste of league and championship.

There is also a lot of talent there, which means we can go on scoring sprees and look fantastic for periods. All good. So the raw ingredients are there.

What is not evident is a system or structured gameplay to compete with Dublin/Kerry/Derry (and McGuiness back means Donegal are also a much diffeent prospect).

There is zero consistency in the team, from quarter to quarter, never mind game to game.

Maybe I just dont see/understand the current tactics as well as others and I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Nah you've still lost me. Maybe I'm not up to speed with gameplans. You mention Derry, they were a shambles at the weekend. Kerry scraped past Cork. I've must have a simpler outlook. Tyrone went away from home and beat a side just beat Monaghan. Things went badly awry on the black card and need to look at why. Sitting in Breffini Park yesterday wat I saw was Tyrone were the much better team and when it was 15 v 15 Cavan wouldn't have won if we were there to next Tuesday. Next up... Donegal.

You don't think going a man down and how to cope with it is an element that the management should have dealt with in training? I would be asking serious questions about why we opened up so quickly during those 10 mins. That re-organisation lies with management imo.

Def needs reviewed: they know that. Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too). I see the glass half full not half empty: 9 players made championship debut. When it went back to 15 v 15 was never in doubt. To go to Cavan and be hauled back like that and win showed great character.
Maybe I don't have your expectations of a team in transition. Reality check: They won't be beating Kerry or Dublin no more than Derry or Donegal will...
 

a club team management would have that angle covered. A black card happens regular in games so it needs to be handled irrespective of who the player carded is.....basic stuff for all teams. Delegation, planning and proper instruction sorts that out easily

I am like yourself and try to take the positives from it (9 debutants, great first 30 minutes) but how can we let a black card derail us is concerning. The real positive was that most of them debutants were on the pitch in the crucial closing stages of ET when the game was in the melting pot.

Hard to know what to expect next week....if we deliver then we could win but it is the total inconsistency that is our problem - we don't know what is happening from one half to the next never mind one game to the next.

I think your over-cooking what managers can do. The problem wasn't so much the blackcard was that the player who got it had such a huge influence on the game up to then.
Derry on Saturday was a complete mess, a few weeks ago Harte being hailed as a genius.
We'll see what happens...I've more faith in the management than you obviously..
 

There is a limit to what management can do without doubt but setting up a team in a coherent fashion with a clear plan isn't too much to expect. We haven't had that the last two years, the team has been a disjointed mess. The management team basically got a free pass for that because of 2021 and that was fair enough. Once they decided to put themselves forward for another term the free pass expired for me and they don't get off with this team in transition line either. Yes there are lots of young players but they are very good young players with a very good experienced core already there. It shouldn't be asking too much after McKenna Cup and seven league games for something like a well tuned team to be emerging. Instead they went off the boil massively in the second-half with the total collapse after the (questionable) Hampsey black card very concerning. It was pretty obvious that Mattie (who was class) wasn't happy at all afterwards. I'm not expecting any titles this summer but we need to see some real evidence this management team are bringing a competitive new team together and building towards something much better than the shambles of the past two summers. Big few weeks ahead of them.

You're a hard taskmaster! 9 players played in their first county championship : ) That wouldn't beat Donegal but it didnt have to... they won. I wouldn't be inclined to hammer them... see how Sunday goes.

I'm not hammering them but I'm not judging the management team on Sunday but rather 2 seasons of underachieving when we looked like a team devoid of direction. Despite some fine individual performances in the league (and Sunday) I'm not sure we're making any great progress in that respect this year either. I hope to be proven wrong. As I said, not expecting any titles, just want to see real evidence that this is the correct management team to bring through an excellent group of young players (and blend it with the excellent core we already had).

We'll see how 'excellent' the group of players is. They retained Div 1 status which was good albeit hammered in a dead rubber against Dublin. Its huge transition time, apparently 16 players gone from All Ireland winning squad 3 years ago.. thats a lot of players and 9 championship debuts on Sunday... its Tyrone not Dublin or Kerry where you wheel out new top teams every few years. 
I be old school, Ulster championship win, good stuff! onto the next round. Games get analysed to death these days.

[Your beef is with your own surgery, claiming that the GP's are sitting about doing nowt. Well that's just bollox.]

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General discussion / Re: GP's & Hospitals - What is...

Last post by Tones - Today at 07:44:46 AM

So plebs paying their taxes no mates on GP reception pay for a taxi abandon their family for 6 hour wait in a&e for minor ailments because they can't afford 100 pound a pop.

So plebs paying their taxes no mates on GP reception pay for a taxi abandon their family for 6 hour wait in a&e for minor ailments because they can't afford 100 pound a pop.

So plebs paying their taxes no mates on GP reception pay for a taxi abandon their family for 6 hour wait in a&e for minor ailments because they can't afford 100 pound a pop.

Just keep phoning, the empty surgery.

Pretty sad response, an individual pitting his experience via knowing the local receptionist and having a few pounds over the masses, poor pensioners ringing will just give up if they can't get through but what do you care.

Again you're using your own experience (as am I) different surgeries than have different methods.

Your beef is with your own surgery, claiming that the GP's are sitting about doing nowt. Well that's just bollox.

You sound like another public server basher. You pay taxes, it doesn't mean you get automatic service.

If you want a better service we've got to pay more taxes to get it.

But you keep telling me how lucky I am for knowing a receptionist and how lucky my wife had £100 quid available to see a private doctor.

I have never once said that, I said I go once a week and at differing times and the surgery is empty, I have no clue what they are doing, telephone triage, video call, house calls, private work, I don't know, my beef as you put it is not with my surgery but how unfair it is in general, you don't care as you can text your receptionist and jump the queue or pay 100 quid when your mate is on holidays or whatever.  A 75 year old with COPD struggling and needing a course of steriods and an antibiotic has to ring up and if the poor crater can't get through they will give up, if they do get through and told there is no appointment and ring back, they'll give up, appointments should be able to be booked like pre-covid, oh yes Mrs Smith I could book you in tomorrow at 10am, it don't happen anymore, with that I bid you adieu.
 

[Sudden onset chest pain needs urgent assessment to rule out cardiac cause.]

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General discussion / Re: GP's & Hospitals - What is...

Last post by Tones - Today at 07:37:05 AM

I had similar issue about a year later and made up symptoms to see a GP as if I had of mentioned chest pain they wouldn't have seen me, how ridiculous is that.

Not really. They are following national guidelines. Sudden onset chest pain needs urgent assessment to rule out cardiac cause. Only thing a GP surgery can do is an ECG which will result in you going to hospital anyway for bloods to confirm a MI or whatever it may be. Can't do those in a GP surgery, so going there is a waste of everyone's time including yours (which you may not have.)

My issue included chest pain which was present for over 6 weeks, this I explained to the receptionist who rang me  back and said go to A&E, I didn't get to speak to a doctor and spent the whole day in A&E apologising to various medical professionals for taking up their time as they were all flat to the mat - if only I had her mobile number!

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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread - ...

Last post by Milltown Row2 - Today at 07:26:00 AM

Arsenals to lose