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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 14, 2018, 10:54:15 AM »
Evans, O Shea and Keane are pretty much in the same category as Smalling and Jones, good decent pros but a level below the best.

I'm pretty sure if you go back in this thread Evans and OShea would have got plenty of stick for not being good enough either
To a degree, yes. But they were better infused with the winning mentality from the Ferguson era, knew the standards expected and did their utmost to meet those standards.
In a lot of cases, players were jettisoned and replaced with a player with equal or lesser ability, so there was nothing particularly gained, but something gets lost along the way.
Other examples like Rafael, Fletcher were let go for cut price fees and replaced with players like Darmian and Schneiderlin. Eventually you rinse out the legacy from the glory days.

Evans was linked with Man City as was Keane. This is the Utd of now. Give really top quality players away and sign absolute dross. Hernandez leading the line for the Hammers and we have 50p feet Lukaku. Worse than Smalling & Jones is Rojo, the man can't even make toast FFS.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 13, 2018, 04:02:55 PM »
I'd warn as well that the Brexit referendum proves that the prospect of a unification referendum in the North is an extremely worrying one.

Such a poll should not be held unless and until opinion polls show a consistent, clear majority in favour of unification. A clear majority means minimum 55-45.

The threat to peace would be too great, and peace is much more important than a united Ireland.

A 51-49 majority in favour of unification would be a nightmarish prospect which would all but condemn the North to another outbreak of bloodshed.

How so?

We've have "democracy" rammed down our throats by Unionists for almost 100 years, are you suggesting that they would change stance on democracy if it didn't work out in their favour?

Yes, absolutely.

50% +1 will do me BUT we cannot allow bigotry and sectarianism of any kind to take hold just because the shoe is on the other foot.
In a 50% +1 scenario it will, nothing surer.

Unification must first involve a discussion of what a UI will look like and what Unionists position will be in that UI.
Convincing Unionist leaders to have that conversation will be the first challenge.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 13, 2018, 12:25:10 PM »
It probably can be done but isn't as simple as it seems.

OK - replace cattle with veal and have another go. Fairly easy for the animal to never have existed on one side of the border and twins to be on the other side.

Unless the authorities go for expensive DNA testing then without stopping the transfer between farms or from farm to slaughterhouse then they'll have difficulty proving much.

I understand the point you're trying to make, but the livestock example isn't the correct one.
Milk would be a better example. With the introduction of tariffs in the event of WTO exit I could see this product being smuggled.

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General discussion / Re: RTE Salaries
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:52:08 AM »
These people are overpaid not because of their ability but because the way we consume entertainment is changing. In our house we have one TV. Children watch it yes but it's on demand Amazon and Netflix. We also have laptop, Ipad and phones. Sure the News and political debate, talkshows need an anchor, but there'll be no need to pay them so much. I listen to podcasts and watch loads of stuff on youtube. I'd say all I really watch is the News on TV and the odd TV show that's recommended.
Technology has disrupted the mainstream media. These guys are Xtra Vision Video in a Netflix world. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:29:00 AM »
Sort of missing the point that Customs for goods don't have to be conducted at the border itself at all.

What world is that your in?

So how do you stop cattle being smuggled across the border on the back of a lorry?

Cattle raised in (say) Armagh taken across to (say) Monaghan - retagged as local cattle and put into the EU food chain.

Are Customs gonna have helicopters and drones watching every farmyard and tracing lorries that drive up and down the road with proverbial SWAT teams cruising around in white transit vans ready to swoop and catch everyone loading/unloading the livestock?

If they ask the farmer after the event - "Ah, just buying a rake of straw bales from a man up the road - no import duty on straw bales there fella".

Not sure how Animals are tracked in the South but there's two issues with that scenario if they follow the same processes as Northern farmers and I think they do.

1- How will the farmer in Armagh explain to local officials where those animals have gone without the proper paperwork?
2- How will the farmer in Monaghan explain to the Abattoir (or whoever if selling on) where the paperwork will be checked and suddenly produce tags for animals out of fresh air.

It probably can be done but isn't as simple as it seems.

It's very tricky. You need tags ready to go into the animals. You need a way of writing off the tags out of the original herd. It's doable. It happens, but not on any great scale.
Animals are all tracked the same way. Right across Europe. Why? Because of an EU Directive. So if you go to Romania, Poland, Ireland, Netherlands, Spain France etc,etc,etc they all have ear tags, indicating country of origin, herd number and animal number. Handy the old EU in that instance.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 13, 2018, 11:18:41 AM »
Sort of missing the point that Customs for goods don't have to be conducted at the border itself at all.

What world is that your in?

So how do you stop cattle being smuggled across the border on the back of a lorry?

Cattle raised in (say) Armagh taken across to (say) Monaghan - retagged as local cattle and put into the EU food chain.

Are Customs gonna have helicopters and drones watching every farmyard and tracing lorries that drive up and down the road with proverbial SWAT teams cruising around in white transit vans ready to swoop and catch everyone loading/unloading the livestock?

If they ask the farmer after the event - "Ah, just buying a rake of straw bales from a man up the road - no import duty on straw bales there fella".

This is an issue already that is dealt with. Smuggling of livestock is very difficult even with no border.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 12, 2018, 10:03:47 PM »
Who cares. Last 16 was already guaranteed. Save themselves for the trip to the drug/crime capital of Europe on Sunday!

Lurgan?

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2018, 09:15:17 PM »
I'd just love to know what the geniuses on here would think Corbyn can do. Or should do. His opponents are tearing themselves apart over an issue created by them for no good reason. Should he risk the exact same thing happening to his own party by coming up with a plan that he cannot implement at present as he's in opposition? I don't understand the logic here. Labour need to get back into power. Things will be better for everyone bar the Boris Johnson/Jacob Rees Mogg brigade when this happens.

The opposition is supposed to be a Government in waiting. Thon front bench is a disgrace. They have no clear deliverable vision on Brexit. Their view should be a peoples vote, but Corbyn is that much of a left wing looney he won't support that. Abbott, McDonnell et al are un-electable as a Government.
What should Corbyn do? Lead or leave!

May limps on. Nothing changes. No support for the deal. A GE is highly unlikely, a 2nd referendum seems to be the only way forward. Hopefully Labour get their act together if that's the case.
 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:30:51 PM »
Did you ever see a more pitiful performance from the Leader of the opposition. The PM, is wounded, lying prone in front of you and all you he had to do was kill her off. Just offer a genuine alternative. But no, he was as weak as piss. Utterly useless. Never mind TM it's time he fucked off as well.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2018, 12:57:49 PM »
I don't think they have the votes to oust her . . . if they do the chaos will be worse than it is now!!!

They might not have the votes but if they get 120-130 then her position becomes nearly untenable.  The reality is if there is a leadership contest then we are scarily looking at a No Deal and a hard border.  Will be the end of January before there's a new PM in and that gives you 8 weeks to get the deal done before the 29th March.  Really difficult to see that happening

Does parliament have to vote for a no deal Brexit?

Not necessarily. As in if we reach 29th March 2019 with no withdrawal deal then essentially that will be a disorderly no deal exit. However Parliament could vote to avoid this either by agreeing to May's deal, another version of it or by asking the EU to extend Article 50 which is what I would bet on.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2018, 09:16:27 AM »
So just to be clear this is a confidence vote in the leadership of the Conservative party. It is not a Leadership election.... yet.

She very may win it. Leaving her immune from another challenge until next year. I think she'll agree to go after Brexit, it won't be enough, she can't carry the DUP, Gov falls GE. Then who knows.

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General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: December 11, 2018, 09:33:37 PM »
Don't think golf is his first sport, or even fifth, from what I heard.

Who the fook is that guy?

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2018, 09:03:23 PM »
Ironically by opposing a UI at every turn round and indeed opposing everything they now appear to have pushed the issue front and centre.
I was talking to a friend today. We'd both be of a similar political persuasion. We both would aspire to a UI but never really seen it as achievable certainly not in the near future. That's changed. We both see a unification vote being winnable in the next 5-10 years.

All thanks in no small part to SF and the IRA. You can send your thanks to Slab and the boys anytime you want Trailer.

Slab the big Republican lol. You have to hand it to him, he played SF & IRA supporters like a fiddle.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 11, 2018, 08:33:35 PM »
By the way where in hells blazes are SF, unless they are in bed with Leo and Coveney and have agreed to keep their heads down??

Mary Lou was mouthing off in the Dail today. Leo put her in her place. It's a time for diplomacy not for SF trying to jam a Unification vote into the proceedings.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2018, 08:31:54 PM »
Ironically by opposing a UI at every turn round and indeed opposing everything they now appear to have pushed the issue front and centre.
I was talking to a friend today. We'd both be of a similar political persuasion. We both would aspire to a UI but never really seen it as achievable certainly not in the near future. That's changed. We both see a unification vote being winnable in the next 5-10 years.

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