Down Club Hurling & Football

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Truth hurts

Ballykinlar would be wonderful for the residents of East Down who must travel to Armagh to watch Down.

johnnycool

Quote from: Truth hurts on April 09, 2024, 04:53:05 PMBallykinlar would be wonderful for the residents of East Down who must travel to Armagh to watch Down.

I hope they build a jetty for the Ards people.

The St Brendan would do a roaring trade.

RadioGAAGAA

#42572
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2024, 02:27:12 PMPotentially good news for Truth Hurts, East Down and Down in general;

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/councillors-overturn-decision-not-to-back-eu-funding-application-by-down-gaa-for-new-centre-of-excellence-AZVJTRKBYZF4BKUJLS2XERJZSQ/



Decidedly mixed feelings on this.


Short term, something is needed. Badly.
Medium term, its probably at a good price and on a sandy base to save some costs in drainage installation.
Long term, its a poor geographic location at the end of very bad roads.


Here is 17 acres of land just off the main Castlewellan Clough road.
Yeah, its ~£300k and you could probably fit in only 3 pitches. But in a ~£12m project, is 3% more worth it when your then located just off a main road slap bang in the (GAA) centroid of the county?


Its only a 25 year lease the county board have on the site. Amortised, thats ~£500k a year then the MoD could potentially pull the rug out from under you?
i usse an speelchekor

manwithnoplan

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2024, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2024, 02:27:12 PMPotentially good news for Truth Hurts, East Down and Down in general;

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/councillors-overturn-decision-not-to-back-eu-funding-application-by-down-gaa-for-new-centre-of-excellence-AZVJTRKBYZF4BKUJLS2XERJZSQ/



Decidedly mixed feelings on this.


Short term, something is needed. Badly.
Medium term, its probably at a good price and on a sandy base to save some costs in drainage installation.
Long term, its a poor geographic location at the end of very bad roads.


Here is 17 acres of land just off the main Castlewellan Clough road.
Yeah, its ~£300k and you could probably fit in only 3 pitches. But in a ~£12m project, is 3% more worth it when your then located just off a main road slap bang in the (GAA) centroid of the county?


Its only a 25 year lease the county board have on the site. Amortised, thats ~£500k a year then the MoD could potentially pull the rug out from under you?

Near Castlewellan is a slightly better location, but how likely would it be to get planning permission there? Look at the access road for example. A lot of drama made about the road to Ballykinlar, which is an A road and 5mins from Clough (and 15mins from Castlewellan).

Mourne Red

Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 09, 2024, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2024, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2024, 02:27:12 PMPotentially good news for Truth Hurts, East Down and Down in general;

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/councillors-overturn-decision-not-to-back-eu-funding-application-by-down-gaa-for-new-centre-of-excellence-AZVJTRKBYZF4BKUJLS2XERJZSQ/



Decidedly mixed feelings on this.


Short term, something is needed. Badly.
Medium term, its probably at a good price and on a sandy base to save some costs in drainage installation.
Long term, its a poor geographic location at the end of very bad roads.


Here is 17 acres of land just off the main Castlewellan Clough road.
Yeah, its ~£300k and you could probably fit in only 3 pitches. But in a ~£12m project, is 3% more worth it when your then located just off a main road slap bang in the (GAA) centroid of the county?


Its only a 25 year lease the county board have on the site. Amortised, thats ~£500k a year then the MoD could potentially pull the rug out from under you?

Near Castlewellan is a slightly better location, but how likely would it be to get planning permission there? Look at the access road for example. A lot of drama made about the road to Ballykinlar, which is an A road and 5mins from Clough (and 15mins from Castlewellan).

It's 'A' shite road

RadioGAAGAA

#42575
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 09, 2024, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 09, 2024, 09:37:42 PMNear Castlewellan is a slightly better location, but how likely would it be to get planning permission there? Look at the access road for example. A lot of drama made about the road to Ballykinlar, which is an A road and 5mins from Clough (and 15mins from Castlewellan).

It's 'A' shite road

Agreed its a shite road and its a bit of a misnomer to hide behind an arbitrary designation of "A" road.

The only significant problem with that location at the Finn is indeed the junction onto the main road which I'll freely admit is currently a crap one with cars flying over that brow coming from Castlewellan. But placing up smart signalling like this would go a long way to mitigating the problem. Other than that, hard to see the roots of any planning objections.

But lets not lose the forest for trees - that land is literally me querying propertypal this evening. More suitable have probable been ignored over the years to chase Ballykinlar and more suitable will probably coming up over the next few years too.
i usse an speelchekor

manwithnoplan

Quote from: Mourne Red on April 09, 2024, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 09, 2024, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2024, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2024, 02:27:12 PMPotentially good news for Truth Hurts, East Down and Down in general;

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/councillors-overturn-decision-not-to-back-eu-funding-application-by-down-gaa-for-new-centre-of-excellence-AZVJTRKBYZF4BKUJLS2XERJZSQ/



Decidedly mixed feelings on this.


Short term, something is needed. Badly.
Medium term, its probably at a good price and on a sandy base to save some costs in drainage installation.
Long term, its a poor geographic location at the end of very bad roads.


Here is 17 acres of land just off the main Castlewellan Clough road.
Yeah, its ~£300k and you could probably fit in only 3 pitches. But in a ~£12m project, is 3% more worth it when your then located just off a main road slap bang in the (GAA) centroid of the county?


Its only a 25 year lease the county board have on the site. Amortised, thats ~£500k a year then the MoD could potentially pull the rug out from under you?

Near Castlewellan is a slightly better location, but how likely would it be to get planning permission there? Look at the access road for example. A lot of drama made about the road to Ballykinlar, which is an A road and 5mins from Clough (and 15mins from Castlewellan).

It's 'A' shite road

I would seriously question a person's ability to drive if they can't navigate that road.

johnnycool

Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 10, 2024, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 09, 2024, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 09, 2024, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2024, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2024, 02:27:12 PMPotentially good news for Truth Hurts, East Down and Down in general;

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/councillors-overturn-decision-not-to-back-eu-funding-application-by-down-gaa-for-new-centre-of-excellence-AZVJTRKBYZF4BKUJLS2XERJZSQ/



Decidedly mixed feelings on this.


Short term, something is needed. Badly.
Medium term, its probably at a good price and on a sandy base to save some costs in drainage installation.
Long term, its a poor geographic location at the end of very bad roads.


Here is 17 acres of land just off the main Castlewellan Clough road.
Yeah, its ~£300k and you could probably fit in only 3 pitches. But in a ~£12m project, is 3% more worth it when your then located just off a main road slap bang in the (GAA) centroid of the county?


Its only a 25 year lease the county board have on the site. Amortised, thats ~£500k a year then the MoD could potentially pull the rug out from under you?

Near Castlewellan is a slightly better location, but how likely would it be to get planning permission there? Look at the access road for example. A lot of drama made about the road to Ballykinlar, which is an A road and 5mins from Clough (and 15mins from Castlewellan).

It's 'A' shite road

I would seriously question a person's ability to drive if they can't navigate that road.

Being from the peninsula I'm happy enough with Ballykinlar but no one can deny it's a shíte road no matter what way you cut it.


johnnycool

Shíte weather is having a major impact on fixtures;

chara

CCC have met this evening and given the current weather conditions have decided to postpone all fixtures, adult and juvenile, football and hurling scheduled for Saturday 13th and Sunday 14th of April.


CCC will review matters again on Sunday evening in relation to the coming week.


The All County League Fixtures scheduled for tomorrow night Friday proceed as planned and Clubs are reminded of the protocol surrounding postponements.


Is mise le meas

Seán Óg 

manwithnoplan

Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:16:44 AMShíte weather is having a major impact on fixtures;

chara

CCC have met this evening and given the current weather conditions have decided to postpone all fixtures, adult and juvenile, football and hurling scheduled for Saturday 13th and Sunday 14th of April.


CCC will review matters again on Sunday evening in relation to the coming week.


The All County League Fixtures scheduled for tomorrow night Friday proceed as planned and Clubs are reminded of the protocol surrounding postponements.


Is mise le meas

Seán Óg


It sounds like there are plenty of clubs really struggling with their pitches at the minute, especially those clubs with only one pitch. In this case I think it's the right decision. It could also mean a slightly bigger crowd at the county game, with no premier reserve games tomorrow.

Truth hurts

Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 12, 2024, 08:33:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:16:44 AMShíte weather is having a major impact on fixtures;

chara

CCC have met this evening and given the current weather conditions have decided to postpone all fixtures, adult and juvenile, football and hurling scheduled for Saturday 13th and Sunday 14th of April.


CCC will review matters again on Sunday evening in relation to the coming week.


The All County League Fixtures scheduled for tomorrow night Friday proceed as planned and Clubs are reminded of the protocol surrounding postponements.


Is mise le meas

Seán Óg


It sounds like there are plenty of clubs really struggling with their pitches at the minute, especially those clubs with only one pitch. In this case I think it's the right decision. It could also mean a slightly bigger crowd at the county game, with no premier reserve games tomorrow.

The county LGFA has declared that their games will still take place. Would it not make sense, for example, to cancel their games as well, giving the clubs a natural break?

thewobbler

Of course it would make sense Truth. But there's a few involved in running LFGA who live for these moments.



manwithnoplan

Quote from: Truth hurts on April 12, 2024, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on April 12, 2024, 08:33:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:16:44 AMShíte weather is having a major impact on fixtures;

chara

CCC have met this evening and given the current weather conditions have decided to postpone all fixtures, adult and juvenile, football and hurling scheduled for Saturday 13th and Sunday 14th of April.


CCC will review matters again on Sunday evening in relation to the coming week.


The All County League Fixtures scheduled for tomorrow night Friday proceed as planned and Clubs are reminded of the protocol surrounding postponements.


Is mise le meas

Seán Óg


It sounds like there are plenty of clubs really struggling with their pitches at the minute, especially those clubs with only one pitch. In this case I think it's the right decision. It could also mean a slightly bigger crowd at the county game, with no premier reserve games tomorrow.

The county LGFA has declared that their games will still take place. Would it not make sense, for example, to cancel their games as well, giving the clubs a natural break?

It certainly would make sense.