Cill Dara v Luimneach

Donnellys Hollow · July 16, 2012, 08:57:27 AM

Deja vu from 2008 for Kildare - Cavan followed by Limerick. I suppose there'll be a bit of speculation today over whether we can actually stage the game in the county. It would be nice from a Kildare point of view to have a championship match in Newbridge and it would be a shame if we had to travel to Portlaoise but probably likely to happen if the H&S crowd have their say.

thejuice · July 16, 2012, 11:44:03 AM

How good are Limerick this year?

I was surprised by their Munster exit to Clare but they beat an on form Longford.

Is John Galvin playing this year?

rodney trotter · July 16, 2012, 11:51:30 AM

Galvins knee flared up during the league. I think it was the cruciate again like last year.

Kildare should win by 4/5. They meet Sligo, assuming they get past Limerick and i'd expect them to beat them aswell and seal a place in the quarter finals. Seanie Johnston will probaly be close to starting by that stage.

Dinny Breen · July 16, 2012, 12:09:13 PM

Rumours that it could be played in Portlaoise as our fears around H&S in Newbridge could come to fruit.

Denn Forever · July 16, 2012, 12:12:39 PM

Well with the amount of support ye had yesterday in Cavan, I'd say stadium capacity may be a deciding factor.

Donnellys Hollow · July 16, 2012, 12:18:06 PM

Limerick having Brian Lacey in their corner will give them some insight into Kildare's strengths and weaknesses.

Some great memories of the match in 2008. It was far from a classic and there can't have been more than 5,000 at it but there were the first signs that evening that Kildare were finally turning the corner after 5 fairly desperate years. The giddy Kildare following out on the field after the final whistle and that picture of the two Dermot's celebrating.

Dinny Breen · July 16, 2012, 12:36:26 PM

Sure Lacey and no better man will be the human feature this week for all the Nationals especially as the Kildare footballers have circled the wagons and are now refusing to give media comment.

seafoid · July 16, 2012, 12:59:12 PM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 12:36:26 PM
Sure Lacey and no better man will be the human feature this week for all the Nationals especially as the Kildare footballers have circled the wagons and are now refusing to give media comment.

Maybe what Kildare need is a Section 31 ban

Donnellys Hollow · July 16, 2012, 01:04:46 PM

If Micko is still at a loose end surely some bright spark in Club Kildare should get onto him and entice back up to act as a media PR man for the team.

"Seánie's a great bleddy man. He ran ten laps of the Curragh this morning. Sure them fellahs are as fit as daisies."

eviemonkey · July 16, 2012, 01:05:17 PM

Haven't seen Limerick play this year but in the past they were always an extremely difficult side to play against when they have their system up and running effectively.

Looking at their team sheet at the weekend they do have a strong central spine to their team (McCarthy, Lucey, Donavan, Kelly) and dangerous corner-forwards. Ryan is top class while Collins can blow hot and cold.

They are the kind of side that could put it up to Kildare for long stages, particularly if Kildare fail to score a goal and have to rely on points. But playing at home you would fancy Kildare to come through by 5 or 6 points in the end. If Kildare get to play at home that is?

The Burner · July 16, 2012, 02:27:47 PM

The pundits and experts will write us off again, Honestly the sheer ignorance the so called "experts" shown towards Limerick and Munster football in general is a disgrace. Dublin aside Limerick are as good as anything in Leinster over the last few years. Full strength Id fancy us to take Kildare/Cavan but missing 4 possibly 5 starters its going to be difficult to get the better of Kildare/Cavan. John Galvin is a massive loss. Hopefully a strong referee this time unlike the last time where Andrew Mcloughlin fouled and dragged Ian Ryan all day and somehow managed to stay on the pitch. a strong home support and a greater depth to their squad will see Kildare/Cavan through though.

rodney trotter · July 16, 2012, 02:50:20 PM

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Quote from: The Burner on July 16, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
The pundits and experts will write us off again, Honestly the sheer ignorance the so called "experts" shown towards Limerick and Munster football in general is a disgrace. Dublin aside Limerick are as good as anything in Leinster over the last few years. Full strength Id fancy us to take Kildare/Cavan but missing 4 possibly 5 starters its going to be difficult to get the better of Kildare/Cavan. John Galvin is a massive loss. Hopefully a strong referee this time unlike the last time where Andrew Mcloughlin fouled and dragged Ian Ryan all day and somehow managed to stay on the pitch. a strong home support and a greater depth to their squad will see Kildare/Cavan through though.

Cavan are already out, so no need to worry about us. Stephen Kelly is also a very useful forward aswell. Would have given limerick a chance if Galvin was available, class player.

Dinny Breen · July 16, 2012, 02:56:17 PM

Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
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Quote from: The Burner on July 16, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
The pundits and experts will write us off again, Honestly the sheer ignorance the so called "experts" shown towards Limerick and Munster football in general is a disgrace. Dublin aside Limerick are as good as anything in Leinster over the last few years. Full strength Id fancy us to take Kildare/Cavan but missing 4 possibly 5 starters its going to be difficult to get the better of Kildare/Cavan. John Galvin is a massive loss. Hopefully a strong referee this time unlike the last time where Andrew Mcloughlin fouled and dragged Ian Ryan all day and somehow managed to stay on the pitch. a strong home support and a greater depth to their squad will see Kildare/Cavan through though.

Cavan are already out, so no need to worry about us. Stephen Kelly is also a very useful forward aswell. Would have given limerick a chance if Galvin was available, class player.

He's trying and failing to be funny because SJ plays for Kildare we are now Kildare/Cavan in his cartoon, perhaps Kilvan or Cadare would have been a a better attempt.

BallyhaiseMan · July 16, 2012, 03:00:25 PM

I think this will be a tough assignment for Kildare.
Limerick have a big physical team unlike Cavan with a strong core up the middle in Johnny McCarthy,Stephen Lucey,Seanie Buckley etc.
They also have quality forwards in Stephen Kelly, Ian Ryan and Ger Collins and that O Connor lad who looked very good against Longford.
They certainly won't capitulate like we did yesterday.

Donnellys Hollow · July 16, 2012, 03:09:32 PM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
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Quote from: The Burner on July 16, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
The pundits and experts will write us off again, Honestly the sheer ignorance the so called "experts" shown towards Limerick and Munster football in general is a disgrace. Dublin aside Limerick are as good as anything in Leinster over the last few years. Full strength Id fancy us to take Kildare/Cavan but missing 4 possibly 5 starters its going to be difficult to get the better of Kildare/Cavan. John Galvin is a massive loss. Hopefully a strong referee this time unlike the last time where Andrew Mcloughlin fouled and dragged Ian Ryan all day and somehow managed to stay on the pitch. a strong home support and a greater depth to their squad will see Kildare/Cavan through though.

Cavan are already out, so no need to worry about us. Stephen Kelly is also a very useful forward aswell. Would have given limerick a chance if Galvin was available, class player.

He's trying and failing to be funny because SJ plays for Kildare we are now Kildare/Cavan in his cartoon, perhaps Kilvan or Cadare would have been a a better attempt.

Suppose it's something we're just going to have to put up with from now on. Didn't some lad from An Ghaeltacht of Kerry play with Limerick a few years ago though?

Just looking at it from a purely football point of view, it's hard to see Johnston featuring from the start for Kildare this year. Smith was excellent yesterday and has a good understanding with O'Connor. They very effective together in the Wicklow game last year I recall correctly. I don't think they've actually been used much as a pairing since then with Kavanagh usually the man inside. I thought being positioned a bit further out the field yesterday suited him too but it's hard to draw any conclusions given how uncompetitive the match was. From the admittedly very brief cameo we saw of Johnston, he looked a bit off the pace. He was beaten out to one ball and looked laboured trying to chase his man back out the field. Dropping a starting inside forward for him also has the potential to put a few noses out of joint.