Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[tbrick18]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

[Blowitupref]

Will likely be changes before throw in for Sunday's Ulster championship opener. Beggan to start?  No Stephen O'Hanlon, Andrew Woods, Dessie Ward or Ryan McAnespie in the 26 for Monaghan.  Cavan without Killian Clarke,Dara McVeety,Jason McLoughlin,Ryan O'Neill.

[thebigfullforward]

Don't expect Derry to win Ulster, no idea who will tho.

A fully fit Tyrone would have to be in with a shout, they have serious players, think it would be madness for Derry to go full throttle in Ulster if they want to lift Sam.

Is the gear grinder thread still about? Fcuk me! 

I remember in 2005 Tyrone singing you can shove your Ulster Final up your hole, all takes is a few knocks going full tilt in 2 hard matches against Donegal and Tyrone, Armagh would settle for an Ulster championship - Derry should be all out for Sam, another Ulster and no Sam would be failure for such a great team.

OK, so let's pretend you're the Derry manager, managing the group of players we have atm, how are you planning the provencial / AI series ahead...

I'd be ensuring key players are at the business end, this Derry team don't need another Ulster at the expense of burnout or injuries, they are capable of lifting Sam this year, but in such a compressed season lads need some rest.

How do you know they're not getting a rest? So you dont think there's a team behind them managing their collective and individual work load. Do you not think elite footballers can manage a game a week with lighter rest weeks and weekends off inbetween? What about training, half the training to prevent injuries, rest and wrap key men in cotton wool and hope they've the  sharpness to try and down a Kerry or Dublin in AI semi finals and final?

Agreed. Some teams now are trained as professionals. Derry are the fittest team in Ireland. Dublin, Donegal, Armagh, Mayo probably not far behind. They could definetly pick up injuries but i dont think they'd be due to fatigue. Derry for example last year: Ulster final played on 14th May, their first group game was on the 27th May, the last group game was 17th June, 2nd July QF and 16th July SF. They had 3 months to play 8 games from start of Ulster to the AI SF

[Tones]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

In the second year if the current competition?

[bennydorano]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

In the second year if the current competition?

Tyrone had a fair degree of ambivalence to the USFC in noughties. But I'm sure that's the response you were waiting for to refute it.

[JoG2]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

In the second year if the current competition?

Tyrone had a fair degree of ambivalence to the USFC in noughties. But I'm sure that's the response you were waiting for to refute it.

Harte and the players?

[imtommygunn]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

[JoG2]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

"Mickey, we're gonna take the training handy until after Ulster" "fine by me"

[Armagh18]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

"Mickey, we're gonna take the training handy until after Ulster" "fine by me"

Top teams definitely tailor their training etc to peak later in the year. Look how often that brilliant Mayo team were beat in Connacht.

[Blowitupref]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

"Mickey, we're gonna take the training handy until after Ulster" "fine by me"

Top teams definitely tailor their training etc to peak later in the year. Look how often that brilliant Mayo team were beat in Connacht.

Mayo sailed close to the win in a lot of games. For example on route to All Ireland finals they needed extra time and replays to win a lot of games.

[Armagh18]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

"Mickey, we're gonna take the training handy until after Ulster" "fine by me"

Top teams definitely tailor their training etc to peak later in the year. Look how often that brilliant Mayo team were beat in Connacht.

Mayo sailed close to the win in a lot of games. For example on route to All Ireland finals they needed extra time and replays to win a lot of games.

Didnt Derry (at one of their lowest points) run them very close one year in the back door?

[Derryman forever]

I have decided , with reference to my vast experience and astronomical wisdom, to leave the decisions as to best course of  action to Mickey Harte and the Derry team.
I do hope they are not offended by my failure to offer direction.
But I think it for the best.
Wouldn't want Jim Mc Guinness to feel that Derry had an undue advantage.

[Armagh18]

I have decided , with reference to my vast experience and astronomical wisdom, to leave the decisions as to best course of  action to Mickey Harte and the Derry team.
I do hope they are not offended by my failure to offer direction.
But I think it for the best.
Wouldn't want Jim Mc Guinness to feel that Derry had an undue advantage.

Probably for the best, give the others a chance and all

[bennydorano]

Sure the lucks been hanging out of the penalty Kick Champs (X2), why change anything? just go full of the bull until it goes pear shaped and then think about it.

Any examples of when other Ulster teams didn't go all out to win Ulster and as a direct result they won an AI?

In the second year if the current competition?

Tyrone had a fair degree of ambivalence to the USFC in noughties. But I'm sure that's the response you were waiting for to refute it.

Harte and the players?

"A couple of years we were of the mindset that we were going to win the All-Ireland and were beaten in the first round. It didn't do us any harm. We went on to win it from there twice."

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/tyrone-legend-sean-cavanagh-issues-28938977#google_vignette


A quote from Sean Cavanagh today funny enough.

[Blowitupref]

It's not about taking it easy it's about when you train to peak.

If it was knock out Tyrone would have had a few more provincial wins under their belts and probably mayo the same in Connacht. Not because they didn't try either.

"Mickey, we're gonna take the training handy until after Ulster" "fine by me"

Top teams definitely tailor their training etc to peak later in the year. Look how often that brilliant Mayo team were beat in Connacht.

Mayo sailed close to the win in a lot of games. For example on route to All Ireland finals they needed extra time and replays to win a lot of games.

Didnt Derry (at one of their lowest points) run them very close one year in the back door?

Yes in 2017.