Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[trailer]

Imagine the Magdalene Sisters were running for government. And then imagine that voters in the ROI are going to elect them into government. 

[Angelo]

Laughable. I'm in minority here remember.

You might be in the minority but you're still full of shit and if you had an objective view you might be listened to.

But you are just an incessant SF basher of hearsay and unsubstantiated, anonymous anecdotes.

You have an agenda, at least be honest about that.

I just had to highlight the hypocrisy of you of all people abusing anyone for posting hearsay and unsubstantiated comments.

As for you telling anyone they're full of shit given the nonsense you've posted on the Covid thread and lies you've posted in relation to Dublin funding, sponsorship and player's professions you have zero credibility

I bet you don't even see the irony of it. As you say yourself, be honest about it.

That's your default response when someone gives you susbtantive posts ridiculing the indefensible you consistently defend.

[Snapchap]

Imagine the Magdalene Sisters were running for government. And then imagine that voters in the ROI are going to elect them into government.

Isn't that essentially what they've been doing for the last century?

[Franko]

Attempt Five:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign", Sid?

Again reaching for the whataboutery because you can't defend your beloved PIRA

Pathetic

Is it any wonder Shinners are laughed at

Adopting the tactics of the US Republican party wholesale

Except it's nothing to do with whataboutery. It's an attempt to get you to demonstrate consistency in your application of logic. Something I'd have thought you'd be only to eager to do. But alas, I'm having to ask this for a sixth time:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

It's classic whataboutery

Whataboutery is used as a deflection technique to bring up something irrelevant when somebody can't or refuses to debate something honestly, as has been the case with you and other Shinners throughout this thread

It's the Boris Johnson "dead cat" technique

You can keep asking a totally irrelevant question about a different conflict as many times as you like

But it has as much relevance to this debate as the price of fish

What is the price of a piece of cod these days?

You should know - you've sold about a hundred of them on this thread

It is 100% relevant.

As the record shows, this debate started because some shinner compared the PIRA bombing near Warrenpoint to the Old IRA ambush at Kilmichael.

You were outraged.

So your opinions on the Old IRA when involving yourself in this discussion are totally 100% relevant.

Why are you desperately flailing around trying to invent reasons not to answer a simple question?

Woah, look you said "desperately flailing" as if you think it's a point

It isn't

Yet more whataboutery

Again, it is unfortunate for you that this whole debate has been recorded.

It's not the pub where you can deny saying something.

The whole debate centres around a comparison of the PIRA to the Old IRA.

You've commented on the Old IRA campaign many times already in the course of this debate.

It's there, for all to see

But now, you try to pretend that the Old IRA is not relevant to the discussion

And it is you who would accuse others of behaving like Boris or Trump

[Itchy]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

[marty34]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

It's quite strange the amount of airtime Peadar Toibín and Jim Allister etc. get in the media.  They get so much time, not even relative to other parties in terms of their votes etc.

Ireland has changed, and an alledgely right wing party like Aontú are finding this out. By the way, is Rénua still going with L. Creighton or have they folded?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

It's quite strange the amount of airtime Peadar Toibín and Jim Allister etc. get in the media.  They get so much time, not even relative to other parties in terms of their votes etc.

Ireland has changed, and an alledgely right wing party like Aontú are finding this out. By the way, is Rénua still going with L. Creighton or have they folded?

You really are a very poorly read and researched man. God bless and save us. Right wing lol. You know what you should do? Gag them, censor them, peadar is elected you know. Your like a wee Brit .

[sid waddell]

Attempt Five:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign", Sid?

Again reaching for the whataboutery because you can't defend your beloved PIRA

Pathetic

Is it any wonder Shinners are laughed at

Adopting the tactics of the US Republican party wholesale

Except it's nothing to do with whataboutery. It's an attempt to get you to demonstrate consistency in your application of logic. Something I'd have thought you'd be only to eager to do. But alas, I'm having to ask this for a sixth time:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

It's classic whataboutery

Whataboutery is used as a deflection technique to bring up something irrelevant when somebody can't or refuses to debate something honestly, as has been the case with you and other Shinners throughout this thread

It's the Boris Johnson "dead cat" technique

You can keep asking a totally irrelevant question about a different conflict as many times as you like

But it has as much relevance to this debate as the price of fish

What is the price of a piece of cod these days?

You should know - you've sold about a hundred of them on this thread

It is 100% relevant.

As the record shows, this debate started because some shinner compared the PIRA bombing near Warrenpoint to the Old IRA ambush at Kilmichael.

You were outraged.

So your opinions on the Old IRA when involving yourself in this discussion are totally 100% relevant.

Why are you desperately flailing around trying to invent reasons not to answer a simple question?

Woah, look you said "desperately flailing" as if you think it's a point

It isn't

Yet more whataboutery

Again, it is unfortunate for you that this whole debate has been recorded.

It's not the pub where you can deny saying something.

The whole debate centres around a comparison of the PIRA to the Old IRA.

You've commented on the Old IRA campaign many times already in the course of this debate.

It's there, for all to see

But now, you try to pretend that the Old IRA is not relevant to the discussion

And it is you who would accuse others of behaving like Boris or Trump

Why is it unfortunate for me?

I've made a fool of you and the other circle jerking murder fetishists like Angelo, Snapachap and RedHand88, which has been very enjoyable!

Sinn Fein's whole online strategy centres around violent pub style talk - we saw yet another example of it with the circle jerking online group which made the news

And it's the sort of pub talk where they don't have the guts to say something to somebody's face, the sort of pub talk where neanderthals joke about assaulting and killing people

Sinn Fein's whole political strategy is to whitewash murder by whataboutery

And that's exactly what you've been doing here the whole time

Which is unfortunate

The whole bloody strategy, and I use the word bloody intentionally, is unfortunate

If you want to act like Trump, own it, don't shirk it

Because that's exactly what you've been doing

Sinn Fein is the Irish Trump party

[marty34]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

It's quite strange the amount of airtime Peadar Toibín and Jim Allister etc. get in the media.  They get so much time, not even relative to other parties in terms of their votes etc.

Ireland has changed, and an alledgely right wing party like Aontú are finding this out. By the way, is Rénua still going with L. Creighton or have they folded?

You really are a very poorly read and researched man. God bless and save us. Right wing lol. You know what you should do? Gag them, censor them, peadar is elected you know. Your like a wee Brit .

Anybody?

[general_lee]

SF-bashers' tears never tasted so good 

[Franko]

Attempt Five:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign", Sid?

Again reaching for the whataboutery because you can't defend your beloved PIRA

Pathetic

Is it any wonder Shinners are laughed at

Adopting the tactics of the US Republican party wholesale

Except it's nothing to do with whataboutery. It's an attempt to get you to demonstrate consistency in your application of logic. Something I'd have thought you'd be only to eager to do. But alas, I'm having to ask this for a sixth time:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

It's classic whataboutery

Whataboutery is used as a deflection technique to bring up something irrelevant when somebody can't or refuses to debate something honestly, as has been the case with you and other Shinners throughout this thread

It's the Boris Johnson "dead cat" technique

You can keep asking a totally irrelevant question about a different conflict as many times as you like

But it has as much relevance to this debate as the price of fish

What is the price of a piece of cod these days?

You should know - you've sold about a hundred of them on this thread

It is 100% relevant.

As the record shows, this debate started because some shinner compared the PIRA bombing near Warrenpoint to the Old IRA ambush at Kilmichael.

You were outraged.

So your opinions on the Old IRA when involving yourself in this discussion are totally 100% relevant.

Why are you desperately flailing around trying to invent reasons not to answer a simple question?

Woah, look you said "desperately flailing" as if you think it's a point

It isn't

Yet more whataboutery

Again, it is unfortunate for you that this whole debate has been recorded.

It's not the pub where you can deny saying something.

The whole debate centres around a comparison of the PIRA to the Old IRA.

You've commented on the Old IRA campaign many times already in the course of this debate.

It's there, for all to see

But now, you try to pretend that the Old IRA is not relevant to the discussion

And it is you who would accuse others of behaving like Boris or Trump

Why is it unfortunate for me?

I've made a fool of you and the other circle jerking murder fetishists like Angelo, Snapachap and RedHand88, which has been very enjoyable!

Sinn Fein's whole online strategy centres around violent pub style talk - we saw yet another example of it with the circle jerking online group which made the news

And it's the sort of pub talk where they don't have the guts to say something to somebody's face, the sort of pub talk where neanderthals joke about assaulting and killing people

Sinn Fein's whole political strategy is to whitewash murder by whataboutery

And that's exactly what you've been doing here the whole time

Which is unfortunate

The whole bloody strategy, and I use the word bloody intentionally, is unfortunate

If you want to act like Trump, own it, don't shirk it

Because that's exactly what you've been doing

Sinn Fein is the Irish Trump party

Numerous insults

Zero substance

Undertones of aggression

Dollop of fake victimhood

Endless projection

This is exactly your level.


Just answer the question.


The effort that you're put willing to put into not answering it is very telling

[trailer]

Don't give this nonsense oxygen. SF use this as a tactic to exonerate themselves from their actions. By debating and engaging you're falling into their trap. It now becomes something that is "up for debate" or "that their are different, valid viewpoints" None of that is true. Best not to get involved.

[Angelo]

Don't give this nonsense oxygen. SF use this as a tactic to exonerate themselves from their actions. By debating and engaging you're falling into their trap. It now becomes something that is "up for debate" or "that their are different, valid viewpoints" None of that is true. Best not to get involved.

So you dislike balance?

[Snapchap]

Oh Sid's back.

9th attempt:
Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

Please Note:
1. The question is as part of a debate which originated in discussions surrounding a tweet which drew parallels between the PIRA's Narrow Water ambush, and the Old IRA's Kilmichael ambush. So claiming that you can't discuss the Old IRA within that debate on grounds of "whataboutery" is clearly just the height of nonsense.

2. Given that you have already REPEATEDLY engaged in discusssions about the Old IRA (they were part of the very subject of the discussion from the start), then it becomes even more nonsensical to suddenly decry "whataboutery" as an excuse to avoid answering a question about them.

[marty34]

Don't give this nonsense oxygen. SF use this as a tactic to exonerate themselves from their actions. By debating and engaging you're falling into their trap. It now becomes something that is "up for debate" or "that their are different, valid viewpoints" None of that is true. Best not to get involved.

Has Colum stopped Brexit yet?