Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[clarshack]

how much would be talking now for renting a typical 3 bed semi in Newry?

£1000 a month wouldnt look at it in a lot of cases. Anything that comes up has huge amounts of interest and is nigh on impossible to get

That's dear alright.

[Armagh18]

They'll only get into Government in the 26 as part of a Coalition.
The other Party(ies) can pull the plug if SF act the bolx.

From a young voter's perspective how could they act the bolx more than what has already been there for countless years?

You could fire a suit on a jack donkey and a scarecrow and they'd be better than the FFG rats who've been in for years

Ireland has a €10b surplus. But yeah FFG rats

Don't worry about the homeless on the streets, the state of the healthcare system or the fact that its practically impossible to buy or rent a house within 2 hours of Dublin. Or the fact that our best and brightest young people are getting out of the hell out dodge to Australia or Canada as soon as they can...

Huge housing problems in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Perth, Melbourne. Other cities facing the same issues.
Brightness and best are not getting the hell out of dodge no matter what you might think. Yes many young people travel for a few years after they have finished their education. Most return.
Healthcare in the North is worse than the South and SF have been the largest nationalist party for over 10 years!

It will be a huge vote for SF at the next election. Regrettably. 

Take a look at any of them Facebook pages.  Literally thousands of young people going.

[trailer]

They'll only get into Government in the 26 as part of a Coalition.
The other Party(ies) can pull the plug if SF act the bolx.

From a young voter's perspective how could they act the bolx more than what has already been there for countless years?

You could fire a suit on a jack donkey and a scarecrow and they'd be better than the FFG rats who've been in for years

Ireland has a €10b surplus. But yeah FFG rats

Don't worry about the homeless on the streets, the state of the healthcare system or the fact that its practically impossible to buy or rent a house within 2 hours of Dublin. Or the fact that our best and brightest young people are getting out of the hell out dodge to Australia or Canada as soon as they can...

Huge housing problems in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Perth, Melbourne. Other cities facing the same issues.
Brightness and best are not getting the hell out of dodge no matter what you might think. Yes many young people travel for a few years after they have finished their education. Most return.
Healthcare in the North is worse than the South and SF have been the largest nationalist party for over 10 years!

It will be a huge vote for SF at the next election. Regrettably. 

Take a look at any of them Facebook pages.  Literally thousands of young people going.

Ack dunno, plenty go, but loads return. No facebook groups for them. 

[armaghniac]

They'll only get into Government in the 26 as part of a Coalition.
The other Party(ies) can pull the plug if SF act the bolx.

From a young voter's perspective how could they act the bolx more than what has already been there for countless years?

You could fire a suit on a jack donkey and a scarecrow and they'd be better than the FFG rats who've been in for years

Ireland has a €10b surplus. But yeah FFG rats

Don't worry about the homeless on the streets, the state of the healthcare system or the fact that its practically impossible to buy or rent a house within 2 hours of Dublin. Or the fact that our best and brightest young people are getting out of the hell out dodge to Australia or Canada as soon as they can...

Huge housing problems in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Perth, Melbourne. Other cities facing the same issues.
Brightness and best are not getting the hell out of dodge no matter what you might think. Yes many young people travel for a few years after they have finished their education. Most return.
Healthcare in the North is worse than the South and SF have been the largest nationalist party for over 10 years!

It will be a huge vote for SF at the next election. Regrettably. 

Take a look at any of them Facebook pages.  Literally thousands of young people going.

Ack dunno, plenty go, but loads return. No facebook groups for them. 

The CSO show that in the last 2 years, the number of Irish citizens coming to Ireland more or less balanced the number going out. A few do stay away, of course, what do you expect from a small country? But not anywhere near as many as some would have you believe and not because of hardship but because of foreign spouses and the like.

[Armagh18]

Can only speak from small sample size but any young ones I know that have went say they're going because "theres f**k all here" and most have no plans to return for the foreseeable. And an awful lot are teachers, nurses and tradesmen.

[Rossfan]

"Fk all here"
Severe shortages of teachers, nurses and tradesmen for a start.

[marty34]

Lack of houses in the north alao. It'll go like the south, people will be living with their parents etc.

Not many houses being built and only a few to rent.

Check out any estate agents.

[Armagh18]

"Fk all here"
Severe shortages of teachers, nurses and tradesmen for a start.

Because they are all emigrating... because there is f**k all here....

[Snapchap]

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/11/07/sinn-fein-td-chris-andrews-sues-the-irish-times/

This is very worrying.

Why?

[Rossfan]

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/1110/1415914-sinn-fein-ard-fheis/

[Itchy]

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/11/07/sinn-fein-td-chris-andrews-sues-the-irish-times/

This is very worrying.

Why?

If you don't want to be sued for defamation stop defaming people. Good enough treatment for these rags of newsapers that are in the pockets of a few people.

[marty34]

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/11/07/sinn-fein-td-chris-andrews-sues-the-irish-times/

This is very worrying.

Why?

If you don't want to be sued for defamation stop defaming people. Good enough treatment for these rags of newsapers that are in the pockets of a few people.

Very true.

It's quite simple. Don't defame people by writing untruths.

The Indo and journalists etc. might start getting the message now.

Nip these stories in the bud over the next while pre-election.

[Armagh18]

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/11/07/sinn-fein-td-chris-andrews-sues-the-irish-times/

This is very worrying.

Why?

If you don't want to be sued for defamation stop defaming people. Good enough treatment for these rags of newsapers that are in the pockets of a few people.

Very true.

It's quite simple. Don't defame people by writing untruths.

The Indo and journalists etc. might start getting the message now.

Nip these stories in the bud over the next while pre-election.

Proper order.

[weareros]

Have read the article and for the life of me can't see where the SF/former FF was defamed. Can anyone point it out? It's Trumpy and he won't win.

[Deerstalker]

https://www.thejournal.ie/mary-lou-mcdonald-legal-actions-sinn-fein-6220380-Nov2023/

Press Ombudsman Susan McKay has said politicians should question whether suing rather than making a complaint through the ombudsman's office is in the public interest.

"People have the right to use the mechanisms available to them to vindicate their name," McDonald said this morning.

It was put to her by The Journal that Sinn Fein politicians have not used the Press Council mechanisms in recent years, which is designed to use conciliation to avoid the legal route, to which she replied: "Yeah, well, that's up to each individual to make their own call."

When asked if there is an active policy within her party to pursue to the Press Council mechanism before going down the legal route, McDonald said there is no such policy.

The Journal asked if she would support such a policy within her party to encourage politicians in Sinn Féin to use the Press Council mechanism, McDonald said:

"People will be aware when they have a complaint or an issue of all of the options of available to them. People generally take advice on it."