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Title: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: 5times5times on August 31, 2023, 10:51:30 AM
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/329089 about International Rules got me thinking....

Who would be your squad if a game was played next week.

Armagh - Rafferty, O'Neill, Murnin
Down - Mooney, Murdock
Dublin - Con, Kilkenny, Fenton, McCarthy
Fermanagh - Kelm
Galway - Comer, Walsh, Kelly, Tierney
Kerry - Clifford x2, O'Shea, Murphy (keeper), White
Derry - Rogers, Glass, McGuigan, McKinless, McKaigue
Mayo - Durcan, O'Shea
Monaghan - McManus
Roscommon - Daly, Smith
Tyrone - Hampsey, McNamee, Meyler, Morgan
Westmeath - Heslin


Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: trailer on August 31, 2023, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 31, 2023, 10:51:30 AM
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/329089 about International Rules got me thinking....

Who would be your squad if a game was played next week.

Armagh - Rafferty, O'Neill, Murnin
Down - Mooney, Murdock
Dublin - Con, Kilkenny, Fenton, McCarthy
Fermanagh - Kelm
Galway - Comer, Walsh, Kelly, Tierney
Kerry - Clifford x2, O'Shea, Murphy (keeper), White
Derry - Rogers, Glass, McGuigan, McKinless, McKaigue
Mayo - Durcan, O'Shea
Monaghan - McManus
Roscommon - Daly, Smith
Tyrone - Hampsey, McNamee, Meyler, Morgan
Westmeath - Heslin

He has a broken leg. Not sure he'd be keen to play.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 11:41:19 AM
There are Master games in this happening shortly.
Peter Caravan's oul  mate Akermanis is coach to the Australians.

By the way we have 2 Dalys and 2 Smiths.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: clarshack on August 31, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
Guys who are playing Aussie Rules would be selected too. Zach Tuohy, Conor McKenna, Callum Brown....
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: DuffGael on August 31, 2023, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 31, 2023, 10:51:30 AM
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/329089 about International Rules got me thinking....

Who would be your squad if a game was played next week.

Armagh - Rafferty, O'Neill, Murnin
Down - Mooney, Murdock
Dublin - Con, Kilkenny, Fenton, McCarthy
Fermanagh - Kelm
Galway - Comer, Walsh, Kelly, Tierney
Kerry - Clifford x2, O'Shea, Murphy (keeper), White
Derry - Rogers, Glass, McGuigan, McKinless, McKaigue
Mayo - Durcan, O'Shea
Monaghan - McManus
Roscommon - Daly, Smith
Tyrone - Hampsey, McNamee, Meyler, Morgan
Westmeath - Heslin

Mooney wouldn't get on the Down team atm never mind an Irish side. He's only back from injury and was only a sub in Downpatrick's last game.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: general_lee on August 31, 2023, 02:17:36 PM
I'd just send 30 x Irelands biggest thugs
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: AustinPowers on August 31, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
What's the deal with the  Rules series? Has it  been consigned to  the dustbin?
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Itchy on August 31, 2023, 03:52:28 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 31, 2023, 02:17:36 PM
I'd just send 30 x Irelands biggest thugs

I dont know, it wouldnt be fair to send 30 Armagh players and no other county gets involved?
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: seafoid on August 31, 2023, 05:45:30 PM
John Daly.
Enda Smith
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
As I suggested before have an All Ireland weekend...
Minor, u20, Tailteann triple header on Saturday with cheap tickets .
If they need a curtain raiser for the Senior Final why not the Junior Final? 500 tickets would cover that and would give those who want to go in early something to look at.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: AustinPowers on August 31, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
As I suggested before have an All Ireland weekend...
Minor, u20, Tailteann triple header on Saturday with cheap tickets .
If they need a curtain raiser for the Senior Final why not the Junior Final? 500 tickets would cover that and would give those who want to go in early something to look at.

What about hotel  availability ?  Car parking?  Trains/buses?  Lots of  Saturday  folk will want to stick around for the Sunday , whether they have a ticket  or not.

And that's   4 matches  in  a 24 hour period  before the  AI senior final , with potentially ET in some.  What if the weather is atrocious all  weekend? The pitch will be in a quare state for  the biggest  match of the year

I'm torn on the minor  venue.  On one hand it's great they  have their  own day with  a packed provincial ground , rather than  an empty  Croke Park. Last couple years have  been great  atmospheres for  minor finals.  Although they deserve their big day in Croke Park  too.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
Croker holds a good number of triple headers already diesnt it?
We're not talking some bog pitch in the wilds of Tyrone here.
Most people will go there and back home the same day.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
As I suggested before have an All Ireland weekend...
Minor, u20, Tailteann triple header on Saturday with cheap tickets .
If they need a curtain raiser for the Senior Final why not the Junior Final? 500 tickets would cover that and would give those who want to go in early something to look at.

Would be similar to this year with little or none in attendance.  Music bands playing in front of empty arena and bringing Galway's 1998 team out last month before the senior final showed how poorly planned it all was.


Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: seafoid on August 31, 2023, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
As I suggested before have an All Ireland weekend...
Minor, u20, Tailteann triple header on Saturday with cheap tickets .
If they need a curtain raiser for the Senior Final why not the Junior Final? 500 tickets would cover that and would give those who want to go in early something to look at.

Would be similar to this year with little or none in attendance.  Music bands playing in front of empty arena and bringing Galway's 1998 team out last month before the senior final showed how poorly planned it all was.


Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules
Presumably they couldn't do the 25 year ceremony at half time unless it went to a replay
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 31, 2023, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
HQ to have discussion again on the possibility of returning Minor All-Ireland finals as curtain raiser slot in Croke Park with the senior final.

The problem with that is the lack of tickets that would be available for the minor teams involved. The last two Minor All-Ireland finals in Armagh, Roscommon had roughly 15k in attendance.

One thing they could have instead as curtain raiser slot on All Ireland senior final day is the Railway cup final. All the top players involved on the same day and not a demand on tickets.
As I suggested before have an All Ireland weekend...
Minor, u20, Tailteann triple header on Saturday with cheap tickets .
If they need a curtain raiser for the Senior Final why not the Junior Final? 500 tickets would cover that and would give those who want to go in early something to look at.

Would be similar to this year with little or none in attendance.  Music bands playing in front of empty arena and bringing Galway's 1998 team out last month before the senior final showed how poorly planned it all was.


Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules
Might be more romance but certainly less interest if spectator numbers are any guideline..

Hard to see where there was romance at Railway cup games unless there were good social functions after???
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 11:27:30 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavans-old-rival-jason-akermanis-to-lead-australia-on-international-rules-masters-tour-to-ireland/a985246633.html
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 11:49:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules

I hear ya brother. Gathering the guts of 80 top level lads for 3 games would not be easy.

There is no money in it - at the end of the day headquarters are not going to be part of a loss leader.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: seafoid on September 01, 2023, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 11:49:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules

I hear ya brother. Gathering the guts of 80 top level lads for 3 games would not be easy.

There is no money in it - at the end of the day headquarters are not going to be part of a loss leader.
A bit of imagination. Winners get a holiday and a free world class S&C coach for the team for a year
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
International rules lost its appeal when they physicality (i.e. violence) was refereed out of it.
People went to those games to see some of the best of both worlds compete physically, the game itself was almost incidental.

I dont think it has the same appeal any more.

The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.
Could be a charity weekend every year once the all-ireland has finished. Shouldn't effect clubs too much. 2 semis on a Friday night, final on a Sunday.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: seafoid on September 01, 2023, 10:56:22 AM
If they can market the Tailteann Cup they could market the Railway Cup

But they would need 53 weeks.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2023, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 11:27:30 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavans-old-rival-jason-akermanis-to-lead-australia-on-international-rules-masters-tour-to-ireland/a985246633.html
Ah yes the thug with the funny shaped nose...
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2023, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc

The Railway Cup was always a players thing. Doesn't have that appeal to draw the crowds any more.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc

Read the whole context before you start letting go with both barrels.
I was responding to a lad who asked "who wouldnt want to see the Railway Cup"
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2023, 05:19:57 PM
Kilpatrick and Cassidy would do rightly against the Australians I think.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc

Read the whole context before you start letting go with both barrels.
I was responding to a lad who asked "who wouldnt want to see the Railway Cup"

Calm down there   ,will ya

I picked  up on one of your comments  , and  give a  valid response.  That is all. 
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on September 02, 2023, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 31, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
Croker holds a good number of triple headers already diesnt it?
We're not talking some bog pitch in the wilds of Tyrone here.
Most people will go there and back home the same day.

Not to be pedantic, but I'd argue few counties have the selection of club facilities that Tyrone have...the 6 have been brilliant at tapping in to available funding. Some of the bogs in the rest of the country are a sight to behold however.
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: 03,05,08 on September 02, 2023, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc

Read the whole context before you start letting go with both barrels.
I was responding to a lad who asked "who wouldnt want to see the Railway Cup"

The majority of pitches in Roscommon are shit holes...
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: tonto1888 on September 02, 2023, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 01, 2023, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 11:49:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 31, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2023, 05:37:29 PM

Railway Cup - oh the romance!  :)

More romance to it and interest I would have than Int Rules

I hear ya brother. Gathering the guts of 80 top level lads for 3 games would not be easy.

There is no money in it - at the end of the day headquarters are not going to be part of a loss leader.
A bit of imagination. Winners get a holiday and a free world class S&C coach for the team for a year

does the S&C coach get a choice in this?
Title: Re: What if... Ireland v Oz in Int Rules next week
Post by: Rossfan on September 02, 2023, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on September 02, 2023, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 01, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2023, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 01, 2023, 10:08:47 AM


The Railway cup though, who wouldn't want to see the best players from each province go head to head.

What age are you?
The last 20 odd years of the Railway Cup was ignored by 99.99% of GAA followers.
The last few years of the Rules thing still attracted round 30k attendances.

So are   most games  that aren't televised.........ladies  league/championship games , minor/u20 championship, minor league,  lower hurling tier competitions,  junior/intermediate provincial  games, schools/college games, etc etc

Read the whole context before you start letting go with both barrels.
I was responding to a lad who asked "who wouldnt want to see the Railway Cup"

The majority of pitches in Roscommon are shit holes...
No doubt you've surveyed them all and have a link to your report?

Are you too embarrassed to add 21 to your handle?😜