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Packie Devlin
« on: April 16, 2015, 12:29:20 PM »
I wondered if anyone might have some information on Packie Devlin, the famous Killeshandra and Cavan footballer after whom Packie Devlin Park is named. His footballing exploits are a matter of record, but I wanted to find information on his family and personal life.

Packie was the brother of my grandmother, Annie Mary Devlin, who crossed the water to England with their sister Delia in the 1920s. My Granny never talked about her life or family in Ireland before she passed away in 1965 and her daughter, my Aunt Kathleen now in her 80s, would dearly like to know more about her mother's life.

I realise it was a long time ago now, but I would be very grateful if anyone has any information at all about Packie and his life.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 01:25:46 PM »
There's a Packie Devlin Park and no Larry Reilly Park?

Did Larry give that the go ahead? Or is that why there are so many potholes in Cavan?

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 06:40:59 PM »
I'm a Killeshandra man myself. Know a little about him. How much do you know or are you starting from zero. Packie Devlin Park is looking well these days, a major upgrade took place a few years ago.

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 03:11:09 AM »
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 11:00:25 AM »
Hi Robbie

I'd imagine you'd find this book, about Packie's colleague Jim Smith, interesting.

http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=176383

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 12:05:57 PM »
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.

I've an interest in this type of thing myself so I'll try and help you out!

There are a few people who would know. First off in the Killeshandra parish is George Cartwright, former Cavan GAA County Board chairman. He has written a book on his own club Cornafean but back in those days people from Killeshandra often played with Cornafean as they were a senior team and you had to play senior in order to play for Cavan. So George might know some more. I'll also talk to the Mammy as she also knows everything about everyone in the area, she may know what families today are related to the Devlins.

One book you should look up if you can is "Cavans Football Story" by Fr Dan Gallogly. Its out of print and to buy it could set you back 100 to 200. It covers the 30's, 40's in detail that is not really on line. I have a copy myself and could copy you some pages but if you want your own I think I know where there is one for sale in Dublin.


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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 01:25:04 PM »
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.

I've an interest in this type of thing myself so I'll try and help you out!

There are a few people who would know. First off in the Killeshandra parish is George Cartwright, former Cavan GAA County Board chairman. He has written a book on his own club Cornafean but back in those days people from Killeshandra often played with Cornafean as they were a senior team and you had to play senior in order to play for Cavan. So George might know some more. I'll also talk to the Mammy as she also knows everything about everyone in the area, she may know what families today are related to the Devlins.

One book you should look up if you can is "Cavans Football Story" by Fr Dan Gallogly. Its out of print and to buy it could set you back 100 to 200. It covers the 30's, 40's in detail that is not really on line. I have a copy myself and could copy you some pages but if you want your own I think I know where there is one for sale in Dublin.

Be interesting to hear what you find out for Robbie.
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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2015, 11:06:06 AM »
Still looking into this for you. Seems Packie Devlin doesn't have much family left, if any around Killeshandra. My neighbour at home remember his brother Johnny though and I know where they lived, a small cottage at Croghan bridge which is now derelict (about a mile out the Ballyconnel road from Killeshandra). I'll see what else can be found out.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 06:35:54 PM »
I have the Jim Smith never read it yet (keep meaning to ) so will see what is there about Packie in it and post it up

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2015, 06:40:19 PM »
Robbieswift - You do have some cousins remaining in Killeshandra and I can tell you apart from Packie, Johnny and your grandmother there were I think 1 others who emigrated to Scotland I think (Lena). When Killeshandra's pitch was opened the daughter of Lena came from Scotland to open the pitch.

In any case you have a large family of cousins remaining and I know they have good knowledge of the Devlin family and McKiernans (Packies mothers maiden name was McKiernan).

See here, you can see the Devlin household in the 1911 census...

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1911&surname=devlin&firstname=&county19011911=Cavan&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=killashandra&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

I will IM you incase you are not following the thread...
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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 11:12:27 AM »
Myles., many thanks for your help. You are very kind. Strange looking at the census as it doesn't show my Granny, Annie Mary, or her sister Delia who emigrated to England with her. I know she was born in 1903 or 1904. Strange, but there has always been some mystery around my Granny's origins and she never talked about it.

It's nice to know we have family still in Ireland.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2015, 11:25:41 AM »
Looking at the census, there was an Annie Devlin, aged 8, living at  Drumgoohy. Also living there were Bessie (70) and Bridget (17). Perhaps a Grandmother and sister? This is interesting as I do recall some talk that Annie and her sister may not have lived with the rest of the family. Perhaps Bridget was Delia's real name. She could always have changed it in England. Mysterious!

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2015, 02:31:38 PM »
Robbie - did you get my IM?

The guy I sent you an email for should be able to fill in some of the blanks.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2015, 10:55:16 AM »
Thank you Myles. I did receive your message and I will be contacting Father Dinny.

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Re: Packie Devlin
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2015, 10:10:28 AM »
The book "Jim Smith Man of Breffni" is available in Easons in Cavan and also in Fitzsimons newsagents and other outlets around Virginia.