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In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.

In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.

No-that's not what I said

I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs

General elections and Co Council elections 2 different things.

Never said they were

2020 should be Sinn Feins baseline. That's what I'm basing my prediction off

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?

Yes and yes

1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around

Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some

Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government

OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.

What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.

I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020

How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.

Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict

Well it's great we found something you don't know. If you were in Ireland you could have watched a harrowing 3 part series into the deaths of 48 people in the Stardust fire. Lynn Boylan has worked with those working class families for years to secure a new inquest which in the end finally brought truth to the fore. Lynn Boylan will top the poll by a mile in Dublin. At the same time the people you seem to have similar beliefs to, are out burning buildings. Think about that.

No need to be getting mad at me just because Sinn Fein screwed up and sold out their base to the NGOs

I'll stand by my prediction-Sinn Feins FPV% vote will decline by 25-33% versus what they got during the 2020 general election

I'll make a €50 donation to a charity of your choice if I'm wrong

In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.

In addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.

No-that's not what I said

I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?

Yes and yes

1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around

Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some

Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government

OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.

What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.

I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020

How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.

Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?

Yes and yes

1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around

Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some

Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government

OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.

What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.

I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?

Yes and yes

1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around

Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some

Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

The uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters

So out of touch its not funny

Yes

Go to Trinity (or Blackrock College)

Add a few fadas to your name

Bobs your uncle

Champagne socialist starter pack

The uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters

More summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?

LOL

Couldn't make it up

And I'm actually very much pro migrant

My biggest issue is that the fraudsters are taking resources and good will away from the legitimate asylum seekers/international protecting applicants.

The inability/unwillingness of the government to enforce existing laws has and their complete dishonesty when asked basic questions have created a tindex box.

[Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?]

Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?

How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least

Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.

The govt and various NGOs said that people without ID had their fingerprints run through an international criminal database

That was false......and I'm a racist for pointing it out

Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?

How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least