2024 Joe McDonagh Cup

[Galtee1]

The 18 wides were criminal but a lot of them were from shooting off the back foot and taking the wrong option. Good few of these were from some of our most experienced personnel who probably felt they should be starting

[marty34]

The 18 wides were criminal but a lot of them were from shooting off the back foot and taking the wrong option. Good few of these were from some of our most experienced personnel who probably felt they should be starting

Maybe that's why they weren't starting?

They had handy chances but didn't take them.  It's on the players, nobody else.

[NorthAntrim]

The pre-eminent feeling at the end was desolation.
Laois were clearly the better team but left it behind.

That is absolutely the case: the better team lost. The call against Lennon for over-carrying near the end was very, very harsh, and was the losing of the game. Complete sickener. Yes, the goals gifted to Offaly, the wides - but still and all, we should have won that. I know we beat Offaly earlier in the competition when they should have won, so maybe it balances out. I don't believe it's because they were poorly coached. As was said, they were the better team. I assume Maher will get the gig again next year, because the CB won't have the imagination to find someone else. I also assume there'll a few of the older lads step away. We don't have pucks of talent coming through, though.

Again - a sickener.

ahh come on. was at least 8 steps? the 18 wides and 4 goal chances and youre blaming the referee for making the correct call?

[Galtee1]

The 18 wides were criminal but a lot of them were from shooting off the back foot and taking the wrong option. Good few of these were from some of our most experienced personnel who probably felt they should be starting

Maybe that's why they weren't starting?

They had handy chances but didn't take them.  It's on the players, nobody else.

I never implied it wasn't on the players. There was numerous occasions where the wrong option was taken and as it was suggested above it looked like selfishness. My point being this was from some of our most experienced players who were probably sour / disappointed not to be starting.

However, numerous reports coming from the camp with dissatisfaction with the management set up.

[Joeythelips]

I disagree with those saying that Laois, Offaly & Carlow should all be allowed play in Leinster next year.

The competitiveness of the Joe Mc is based on their being 2-3 teams there capable of challenging.
It's important to win it.
Ditto- it's important to finish 5th rather than 6th in Leinster.

People should be careful what they wish for!

It wont happen due to the pull of the Munster championship but think they should scrap the provisionals. It should be properly seeded and you could have like it is now, 2 separate competitions the AI series and JMcD cup.
So for example:
Group 1
Limerick
Cork
Waterford
Galway
Carlow

Group 2
Clare
Kilkenny
Tipp
Wexford
Antrim

All play each other, top 3 go into quarters and 4th plays off JMD finalists in playoff to get into quarters as it is now. Bottom 2 play off to see who goes down and replaced with JMD winners.

I would do similar in football but I would promote 2 from lower tier as gap is not as great as hurling imo.

[burdizzo]

However, numerous reports coming from the camp with dissatisfaction with the management set up.

Yeah, I heard that, too. However, I more or less discounted it since it seemed to be coming from 'fringe players'.

[redsetanta]

Why was Paddy put in at full forward at the start of the second half?

[Zooming around]

Why was Paddy put in at full forward at the start of the second half?

I heard that Paddy broke his  hand in the first minute and it was a miracle he got through the game at all.

[georgedoylesrightleg]

guttung loss last weke. how we cantr get over line in these games is shockin n i do feel for players too.

experience players leavin panel now wit a few days to go. sad to see n usual will come out bout laois now again. same ol same ol.

[burdizzo]

Yeah, often said Laois need to be 10 points better than a team, just to beat them by one!

Who left the panel?

[ottoman]

Yeah, often said Laois need to be 10 points better than a team, just to beat them by one!

Who left the panel?

Lee Cleer and Wille Dunphy are two that I know off anyway, I don't think Wille Maher really fancied either of them so not sure how much of a loss they'll be for this weekend.

[Blueforever]

We have not beaten Wexford in a senior hurling championship match in nearly 40 years it's not if they are winning All Ireland's every second year

[burdizzo]

Yeah, often said Laois need to be 10 points better than a team, just to beat them by one!

Who left the panel?

Lee Cleer and Wille Dunphy are two that I know off anyway, I don't think Wille Maher really fancied either of them so not sure how much of a loss they'll be for this weekend.

Aye, they were playing for Ballacolla tonight in a 'must-win' league game v Abbbeyleix. Both looked sharp, in fairness. Cleere wouldn't get game time w/ Laois, Dunphy might have, but only as a sub. Suppose they reckoned Laois' year was over.

[Ogie]

Bullshit, imagine being that selfish to throw the toys out of the pram and walk out on your team mates, a lot of them young, with one training session and one match left.
They don't walk away when it was Croke Park waiting.

What does that already do to morale this week for the rest of the team & management trying to pick themselves up,
Some way to finish up,

Best of luck to the rest of the lads tomorrow, another big day out,
Left it behind last week hopefully put up a good showing that the home supporters can get behind

[The infidel in exile]

Totally agree with you brother, typical Laois. I used to watch them for years and it's always been the same. A couple of individuals acting like infant's just because they are not getting game time. Please tell me why in other countries, the Jersey comes first. In Cork, kilkenny and even Counties like Antrim and Offaly, you don't see players acting like their Joe Canning and MUST start every game. Dunphy has been a good servant but he has let himself, his team mates, his County and everyone who follows Laois, just because he is a substitute due to the fact that Willie Maher decided to play three young lads who are quite simply better than Dunphy. Dooley, Quinlan and Keyes are the future. Finally I want to mention something criminal that I witnessed whilst watching the game here in Nottingham. Picky almost single handedly lost that game for Laois due to his selfishness when, instead of passing the sliotar to Aaron Dunphy, who, with 8 minutes left, was totally unmarked just on the 14 yard line, with no Offaly players near him, picky goes himself from an angle too acute, with two Offaly players bearing down on him. He definitely saw Aaron but wouldn't pass for the captain to score a certain goal. It's all academic now. But I just backed Laois over here in Ladbrokes at 10/1. Simply because I actually believe that I watch the best Laois team since Eddie Brennan last Saturday. Laois can emulate Antrim and beat the yellow bellies.