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Ah, dual players conundrum.

I'll go back to a post I made a few years ago when Liatroim had a handful of players competing to the closing stages of the IFC, IHC, MFC and MHC.

What is it that a fixtures secretary can do in such circumstances?

It's all very well giving off. But the only solution for "burnout" of genuine dual players is to start one code's competitions in May, and wrap it up by the start of August.

Liatroim are guaranteed 3 games in the Senior Hurling Championship this year as well starting on Saturday night with a double header in Carryduff.

Good to see them make the step up.

I wonder if a recent social media video of a player on a certain team doing something they shouldnt being doing on a night out doenst get as much traction in the media because they are not high profile enough, imagine a player from Dublin or Tyrone caught doing the same, natioanl news, a but sure the hurlers, lovely fellas , role models etc.

Is is appropriate to ask you to spill the beans?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/michael-verney-donoghues-shock-exit-leaves-tribe-at-crossroads-38425363.html

I wonder if a financial tightening of the belts in Galway has expedited his departure?

He may have been coaxed to jettison some of the backroom staff.......

Hard to argue with anything that has been said, its a good debate.

IMO Kilkenny ran out of ideas very quickly, think this probably shows their lack of a squad too. Cody couldnt turn around at HT and change personnel to counter act what they knew would be coming from Tipp with the extra man. So he reverted to type.

Maybe the game has moved on from this type of hurling and KK havent moved with it.

KK extremely lucky to make the final but probably got shown up for where they are currently, slightly short.

Cody threw on a few speedsters yet the ball from defence was still high and central.

Didn't make much sense.

It's all that heading the ball that causes that level of utter stupidity.
Angela M has fairly put it up to Gobshite Johnson.
He wanted "Oomph"..... he's got it

Interesting to hear both of them. Merkel must have mentioned the Good Friday Agreement on several occasions, but Boris didn't once that I can recollect.

He's got 30 days to come up with a backstop alternative so to use his own term, that's a blistering pace, so get to it ballbag!

With all thisKilkenny talk about manliness in hurling,  Kilkenny are still whining like hungry piglets about the red card decision. Can't they lose a game in a manly fashion?

Tipp already demonstrated they could win after going a man down and overturn a 5 point deficet in the doing.

I'm not sure what grounds they can appeal on.

We all know an infraction occurred, they can't deny that it didn't and it was to the head area.

A bit like Caolan Mooney earlier in the year.

[09 Tipp could have and should have beaten Kk]

09 Tipp could have and should have beaten Kk,in 14 they were millmetres from beating them

In those 3 finals that they have lost ,Tipp have beaten them by a cumulative total of 31 points.

Ten years later, are people still really trying to push this myth?

Have seen a lot of guff proclaiming tipp the team of the decade on Twitter since Sunday. Since "this" Tipp team emerged in '09 they've had, by my count, 8 championship meetings with 2014 counting as one meeting. It's 5-3 to KK with 3 all Irelands each, an almighty drubbing in the 2012 semi for KK included. Kk have also beaten then in four League finals in that period, with Tipp failing to win a single League title. Does anyone who is capable of ignoring recency bias actually think Tipp are the team of the decade?!

Kilkenny still lifted 4 AI's in this decade to 3 for Tipp, so it's KK for me even if it was the earlier part of the decade and not as fresh in peoples minds.

Cody has managed KK to 11 AI's, that will need be achieved again, but as someone alluded to he also like Fergie may be outstaying his welcome and like Fergie may have stayed for one last horrah (Fergie managed his) and failed.

The style of hurling has changed, but at times you think Kilkenny are still sticking with the tried and tested, outwork and overpower your opponent, force the errors and punish them on the scoreboard.

Not a lot wrong with that, but when some team competes and betters you in the physicality stakes, nullifies your best players you need something more than putting TJ, Walter and Fennelly under a high ball and hope for the best.
It smacks of lack of trust in the young guns and yes, they're not Henry Shefflins, Eddie Brennans or Eoin Larkins, but at least play ball in that suits their skillset.

I can see Paul Murphy hang up the boots, there's a year or two left in TJ Reid and probably Fennelly. Wally needs to become a leader and failed miserably at that when out caught two or three times by Heffernan and the Mahers in the second half. He failed to stand up.  Buckley is a fine hurler but the long injury spell affected him badly and he should be a more formidable player next year.
Hogan, I'm not so sure about. Yes, terrible way for him to go out but I really can't see Cody (If he goes another year) doing sentiment as you get the impression that Cody doesn't totally buy into him now.

Big Lawlor at fullback is a find all the same and the much maligned Joey Holden had a stormer of a year.
They may have rode their luck to get to an AI final, but Kilkenny will never be too far away.

I see all the teams from the higher division won the play off games, playing against higher level opposition every week def gives teams an advantage, what was the reasoning for the 2 legs both at neutral venues? Found that strange, either 2 legs with a home and away or a one off at a neutral ground. Maybe next year they'll tweak it a bit

didnt make any sense at all to me that as well. would of potentially got each team a decent gate but i assume the county were at the gate collecting as it was a neutral venue?

Doesn't make much sense at all.

Our neutral venue was in St Galls, about 2 mile from the Stewartstown road.

I suppose in fairness the next game will be in Ballycran   

Eoin Larkin reckons nobody deserves to be sent off on All Ireland final day, well probably just Benny Dunne in '09

What planet are these lads on?

Are Munster finals and Leinster finals also to be exempt?

What about Gerry Quinn taking a go at Henry in an AI semi-final replay, that's probably OK now as well?

Yeah in isolation Hogan's tackle is a red card but when looking at consistency compared to other decisions that is when it becomes more controversial.

I think eventually Tipp would have taken control anyway. Feel a bit for Hoga although I do think there was some red mist from previous incidents.

Barratt and Hogan was flaking each other just before Barratt broke out to the wing to collect that ball.

Hogan had the mist on and was about to bury Barratt but was undone by Barratts neat set back, throwing the elbow up was just too tempting in that situation.
Hogan probably wasn't helped by his lack of remorse but IMO the referee was right to send him off and as Barry Kelly said on the Sunday Game, if that wasn't a sending off offence then what is?

Body found in the search for Nora Quoirin. Likely to be her.

Very sad case. Small consolation though it is but at least they have a body, (if it is her obviously)

Agree, an awful tragedy - but some small consolation as you say that they have found her when you think of the likes of the Maddie McCann case. Terribly sad.

Seems like the police are saying she was wandering around lost in the jungle for days and foul play not suspected. She was still alive when the search efforts started it seems. Terribly sad.

I would say there are still a few question marks surrounding this case.

It seems the family are still guarded in their response to the local coroners report;

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nras-family-are-treating-cause-of-death-with-caution-lawyer-warns-38408541.html

[but no amount of money will produce hurlers]

I'll be shouting for Tipp, mainly because they have surprised me this year, Kilkenny deserve some credit also in fairness but Tipp just shade it for me.

What kills me mainly is the amount of crap discussed about football! It's literally dung but it doesn't stop the shit being talked about it. I hope Dublin continue to wipe the floor with everyone in football as you can produce 'footballers' with money, but no amount of money will produce hurlers

Ahem. JP. Cough.

One every 40 plus years is a very poor return of investment

P Kinnerk should be on Dublin's shopping list if AIG are serious about lifting a hurling AI.

I still like watching him fight all the same.

In the Octogon I presume.

Big lad on the stool wasn't overly perturbed by the sneaky punch.

[but that has no implications for political structures]

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The difference is that we are not in Britain and any attempt to convince people that they are something else is always a hard sell. The unionists are in Ireland and them being Irish is simple normality, in the end normality asserts itself.

And right there you have a perfect illustration of why we will never be able to persuade the unionists to leave the UK and join a united Ireland.

I post white and you say black. Perhaps you might want to elaborate.

Rather than recognise their identity and look to ways that it could be incorporated into a united Ireland you simply tell them "No you're not British" and expect them to agree to it. If you can't understand why that won't persuade them into a united Ireland then there is nothing I can say that will get you to understand.

They may consider themselves as being of British heritage if they wish, but that has no implications for political structures any more than Irish Americans required to be actually ruled from Dublin. All I want is normality.

Except for the fact that Northern Ireland is still part of the United Kingdom.

And a lot of people still die from cancer, but progress will be made in both situations.

4 Years later.

I think there's significant progress on both.

Meanwhile back to United Ireland... 
Will you folks in the 6 be having a Census in 2021?

Yes, but expect some gurning about how certain questions are worded.