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[the people behind it don't deserve to get it built - though some of the rest of us do!]

I have my doubts on whether it will ever happen. The euros changed that doubt a bit but I don't think it'll ever get the money unless it's for something like the euros. It has honestly been a debacle since day one and the people behind it don't deserve to get it built - though some of the rest of us do!

If it doesn't get built for the euros it'll have to be a lot more modest I would think.

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Ulster GAA's performance on this has been totally pathetic every step of the way. And they have brought nothing to the table.
They executed a land grab on Antrim's ground*
They got a handout from Central Council.
They got a handout from the government.
They're back with the begging bowl.
They are totally incompetent yet if they manage to fluke this stadium over the line they will be like the dog with 2 dicks.

*How in the name of Christ Antrim stumbled into this one is entirely beyond me.
How the clubs aren't kicking up a shitstorm about it to this very day is beyond me. They should be demanding it returned.
It wasn't signed away 10 years ago. It appears that it was only signed away in July 2021 ffs!

It would probably be wise to announce how the build is being funded and providing details of financial guarantees before asking people to tender.
I mean, who is going to take the project on without that minor detail in place?
Any ideas on why Heron Bros have pulled the plug at this stage seeing how they've waited patiently on this project for 10 years?

I wonder about this rush to claim superiority on that front. I could agree with it if lotto tickets and fundraising was paying for everything in clubs.
But, it appears it isn't. Indeed if you were to push people on their club paying a manager, they would quickly point to a businessman from the club bankrolling it.

There was a line crossed a long time ago. We are now discussing how far clubs are over that line.

A lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.

[I generally kept them on the phone and waited an hour and hung up]

Does anyone still have house phone? Ours broke down about 10 years ago, we haven't replaced it

I tried that one several times MR and got faceache from the missus. "Oh what about x, y and z who have our number", "what if the mast goes down and we can't ring for an ambulance etc.". Our phone only ever rings when her Ma calls her or nuisance calls (some may consider them the same thing  ) - 99% of calls are via mobile!

I got fed up answering calls or getting off my arse to do it only to get some arsehole telling me my computer (didn't have one) was going to have problems with a virus!

I generally kept them on the phone and waited an hour and hung up

Fair to say you won that one.

Whatabout.....
You only picked 1 item to quibble with in McBride's piece I see😉

Is Sam McBride's article not complete whataboutery?

Playing without county players I think.

Has Cargin ever played a match without it kicking off on here?

[Casement should only be used if a near capacity crowd is expected, or at least 20,000 and up.]

You don't need to worry. There's nearly 2,00O GAA pitches in Ireland where you can stand. I recommended one stadium in each province to be a modern all seater. The grey concrete empty terraces in Páirc Uí Chaoimh look ridiculous. Casement if built to designs will look so much better.

... and if its a provincial game (club or county) that I want to see and it happens to be in Casement?

[which you know the Ulster council are going to flog to death to try and justify it]

Would it be any different to your club and county playing in Croker when the Hill is closed (as it often is). Nine out of ten times you'll still most likely be in a ground where you can stand. Casement should only be used if a near capacity crowd is expected, or at least 20,000 and up.

I've been waiting on this....

Oso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.

Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

One thing doesn't help is the glen player is one of the smallest on the pitch. I think it looked worse than it was. Tomas was not helped in any part by the excessive rolling and head clutching of the glen player

Perhaps but fundamentally he wasn't helped by putting in a poor challenge borne out of frustration having cheaply given away his previous 2 possessions.
He put himself in a precarious position. Any finger pointing comes after that.

Oso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.

Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

Oso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

Cargin had a go, but unfortunately came up short once again. Beat the handicap odds as expected whilst spurning enough genuine chances to bring it to the wire. Tomas red card had an influence when it was,a one point game.

Gutsy effort and definitely not disgraced in defeat, but no doubt there will be a winter of head scratching around Toome about another one that got away.

Antrim football completed for another year.

St pauls minors still have another game ( at least 1, but with home advantage who knows )

I think the biggest advantage is that they will be playing an U17 game against a club who didn't play U17 football this year.

[Who says Banagher would have won Derry if Glenullin had been promoted]

Who says Banagher would have won Derry if Glenullin had been promoted.
They had Glenullin beaten going into injury time, then they sh1t themselves

Literally nobody.
Clarshack said they'd be the most likely.

Who was the Trillick manager last year?

Nigel Seaney was manager for previous 6 years up until Jody Gormley took over at the start of this season

Jody Gormley was definitely knocking about last year though?