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[Tipp and Cork like most of the hurling counties have a healthy respect for football]

I must say I find it hilarious when hurling people get on their high horse about the state of hurling in Cavan and Fermanagh.

In Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipperary football has been treated like sh*t for years. Kilkenny don't even pretend to bother any more.

So I'll listen to arguments about what needs to be done for Cavan hurling when those counties treat football equally.

Did Tipp not play in an All Ireland semi final recently? Cork have won the All Ireland a good few times, Kilkenny compete in the lower end of football Junior I think, and have won it a few times, as for Limerick, they always had a decent team, maybe Waterford and Antrim would have been a better example of underperforming or underfunding ..

These things I wouldn't find hilarious, but each to their own

"Kilkenny compete in the Junior"..😂😂😂 Well - you really disproved my argument, I surrender.
In case you're not aware, that competition is for native born Americans and English players and is played semi-final/final on same weekend like some Féile blitz. That's the level of effort Kilkenny are putting into football. What about club football in Kilkenny? How is that organised pray tell?

I've lived in Tipperary and Cork. Both county boards completely dominated by hurling heads. Officials and coaches in both counties actively discourage dual players playing football. That's quite well known.

There are hardcore football clubs and people in both counties, especially in West Cork which is a heartland of football but the board has treated them like shit to varying degrees over the years. Cork should be a dominant football county but aren't. Why? I could fill a book with stories.
A few years ago at one state the Senior hurlers were training in a college gym in Cork city, paid for by board - while the footballers were forced to rent a warehouse in Fermoy and kit it out themselves. Look up how far Fermoy is from Castlehaven, Bantry or Rosscarbery where footballers were travelling from.
As soon as any talented dual player enters a Cork squad system they are told giving up football is one of the keys to progressing. The large traditional hurling Clubs like Midleton, Sars, Blackrock, Glen Rovers, Na Piarsaigh treat football with absolute spite. The irony being that the one true dual city club who don't - St Finbarrs - excel in both codes because of it.

So to be perfectly honest laughter is all I offer when I hear hurling heads bleating about Leitrim or Cavan hurling. If Hurling snobs ran the GAA and got their wish, football would be banned.
Hurling is a good sport and anyone who wants to play it should be given the opportunity to do so but what hurling people don't seem to get or want to admit though is that
north of the Dublin-Galway line - as Martin Fogarty outlined in many interviews since quitting his role with GAA - there is very little interest in hurling. Hurling is strong in the rich farming counties mainly. There are well documented historical reasons for this.

Not sure how you can draw a comparison between Tipp and Cork and Cavan and Louth. Tipp and Cork like most of the hurling counties have a healthy respect for football and the numbers participating is testament to that. Just because its not the holy grail as it is in Kerry should be no reason to have a cut at them. We all know the same is not true of Cavan and Louth where hurling is almost non existent. Maybe its just a Kerry thing, hurling somehow undermines their superiority complex.

The bolded bit is absolute nonsense. I've lived in Cork for a long time and been involved in GAA at club level.
As I outlined in previous posts, Football is looked on with disdain by the hurling dominated board in Cork (and Tipp) and any meagre success is in spite of this and down to a handful of hardcore football people largely from West or Northwest of Cork or other isolated pockets like Nemo Rangers in the city.

Anyone prepared to discuss how football is treated in Kilkenny? I won't hold my breath.

I wont disagree with you but honestly is their respect for football any worse than Kerrys respect for hurling?

You mentioned Kilkenny, appreciate only in relation to the other post, but that's why I mentioned it, there is literally no comparison between the two in this instance, maybe other football dominant counties with teams at the very bottom of the hurling levels, even though I appreciate that there's hurling mad people in those counties, they maybe don't get the backing they should, certainly not by the GAA, judging by the recent proposal.

I wont disagree with you but honestly is their respect for football any worse than Kerrys respect for hurling?
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I don't know about the powers that be and their respect for hurling in Kerry but they have a very passionate hurling stronghold in North Kerry and their hurling team is fairly strong just below the Liam McCarthy. Kilkenny have neither a  football team in league nor senior championship. There is literally no comparison between the two.

Downing Street deletes post about Northern Ireland with Irish flag

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67485141

GDP per head in Greece is about a quarter of the level in Ireland so an Irish salary could be very attractive for Poyet.

Football salaries and GDP have very little correlation I'd imagine.

Brian Dooher point against Kerry in the AI Final, 2008.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/1102/1414384-martens-corbett-hearing/

Jason Corbett manslaughter hearing has been told by a medical expert that Mr Corbett's first wife Margaret did not die from asthma in Limerick in 2006.

Asked about claims made by two defence expert witness reports on the same material, which said it was possible Ms Corbett's death was due to homicide, Dr Nichols said it was possible.

Dr Nichols then listed a whole series of tests and checks that had not been recorded in the pathology report. He said: "We have nothing to indicate the cause of death of this woman."

He added that there was no information in the report to indicate any sign of choking or asphyxiation.

Dr Nicholls also rejected defence expert testimony on an alleged strangulation attempt on Molly Martens Corbett the night Mr Corbett was killed.

He said one of the experts had taken what is possible and made it into something plausibly probable without any basis in science.

Family of Corbett's first wife criticise 'wildly inaccurate' claims - The family of Jason Corbett's first wife have said that suggestions that he had anything to do with her death are "wildly inaccurate and untrue".

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1104/1414619-corbett-family/

See Trillick v Cross on RTE2 Saturday night & Kilcoo v Scotstown on TG4 Sunday.

I assume they'll not try to chance the double header for Omagh on Saturday evening?? (Pomeroy v Cullyhanna in IFC down for 5.30).

The intermediate game will be a cracker as well. 2 very good teams. Will any streaming service have the rights to it?

Ulster GAA, £60 I think for a season ticket which covers most games that aren't chosen for national coverage

Presume you can just buy the one game?

I think so yes

See Trillick v Cross on RTE2 Saturday night & Kilcoo v Scotstown on TG4 Sunday.

I assume they'll not try to chance the double header for Omagh on Saturday evening?? (Pomeroy v Cullyhanna in IFC down for 5.30).

The intermediate game will be a cracker as well. 2 very good teams. Will any streaming service have the rights to it?

Ulster GAA, £60 I think for a season ticket which covers most games that aren't chosen for national coverage

Who's the real flops?

Clubs with the highest net spend between 2014-2023:

Manchester United – $1.48 billion
Chelsea – $1.10 billion
Paris Saint-Germain – $1.08 billion
Arsenal – $932 million
Manchester City – $916 million
Newcastle – $718 million
Barcelona – $709 million
Tottenham Hotspur – $652 million
AC Milan – $583 million
West Ham – $564 million

https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/man-utd-has-highest-net-spend-of-any-club-during-last-decade-20230906-WST-454283.html

[right minded unionist]

Would a right minded unionist not wonder about a nation on its doorstep building a sovereign wealth fund whilst their particular political representatives are telling them we better off with those lads across the qater that keep stabbing us in the back and all we have to do is go back to London and tell them you just need to keep handing us more charity money and it will be OK.

An oxymoron if ever there was one

[28 - 10 - 2023]

Dia Sathairn  28 - 10 - 2023

Na Piarsaigh v Patrickswell  beo
5-15pm


Dia Domhnaigh  29 - 10 - 2023

Thurles Sarsfields v Kiladangan  beo
3-00pm

Just the one game on Sunday as the audience will be knackered after staying up too late because they are getting an extra hour's sleep.

I would have thought the Derry final might have been on bearing in mind Glen are playing and fact they just missed out on the All-Ireland last season.

I'm not sure Derry county board would allow it to be on TG4 as it is being streamed.

Will Trillick be any use to them in the final?

Strong contenders for Ulster at this rate.

[Maybe they'll throw out Israel as well]

Looks like all 5 of Ireland, NI, England, Wales, and Scotland will go through qualifying for Euro2028. There will be 2 "safety net" places for the two non-qualifiers with the best record. Will take some going to fail to qualify.

There are 54  teams in UEFA qualifying (Russia  not included ). Maybe they'll throw out Israel as well . (Well, is there any difference  there than with Russia?)

When you consider there are about 10 of the  likes of Liechtenstein , Andorra , Faroes, Gibraltar, San Marino  etc,  who  haven't a hope of qualifying , that leaves about 44 teams

There are probably another 10 of the likes of  Latvia, Montenegro, Cyprus , Luxembourg, Moldova etc. That leaves 34

24 qualify, so  realistically you'd need 10 teams  worse than Ireland.  I  know  Ireland are in a poor state  right now , but  it looks nearly easier to qualify than not. Even in the state Ireland are in

I detect a hint of sarcasm there, there's zero chance of that ever happening and they should be in the same way the South Africa were banned.

Can Mick McCann now be declared as the greatest Antrim footballer ever?

Who else is in the conversation. Rank your top 5

Mick McCann
Paddy Cunningham
Kevin Niblock
Sean Kelly
Anto Finnegan

What about the last century?
Kevin Armstrong
Andy McCallin
& there will be others

[Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares.]

Trouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.

Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

So you basically see them as sub human. Says it all about you!