The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Hound]

Ned i agree about Morelos tackle tbh but other than that he didn't get us beat today. It all boils down to one stupid act of play from Bitton that cost us the game, that's it in a nutshell.

Clearly Stevie G has well outperformed Lennon this season, but today Lennon's team were the dominant one until that ridiculous take-down. If Morelos was a guy who scored everytime he came up against Celtic, you might have some justification for what Bitton did, but it's almost certain that would have been blazed high or wide or both.

And of course the only goal was a bit of a fluke (albeit like most OGs, some blame should attach to the player, even though commentators seem to always to try and absolve the 'scorer' of all blame).

Anyone know or hear of what Lennon's wages are compared to Gerrard's? Or how much extra Rodgers got for going to Leicester?
While Celtic can't afford the best players in the world, I'd have thought paying for a good manager wouldn't be out of the question.

[Angelo]

Ned i agree about Morelos tackle tbh but other than that he didn't get us beat today. It all boils down to one stupid act of play from Bitton that cost us the game, that's it in a nutshell.

Clearly Stevie G has well outperformed Lennon this season, but today Lennon's team were the dominant one until that ridiculous take-down. If Morelos was a guy who scored everytime he came up against Celtic, you might have some justification for what Bitton did, but it's almost certain that would have been blazed high or wide or both.

And of course the only goal was a bit of a fluke (albeit like most OGs, some blame should attach to the player, even though commentators seem to always to try and absolve the 'scorer' of all blame).

Anyone know or hear of what Lennon's wages are compared to Gerrard's? Or how much extra Rodgers got for going to Leicester?
While Celtic can't afford the best players in the world, I'd have thought paying for a good manager wouldn't be out of the question.

Rodgers was on around £2m a year at Celtic. We were supposed to have around £7m from Leicester for Rodgers and his backroom team members that left.

[MK]

Rodgers left for a club that spent £100 million on training facilities...after Celtic failed to up their measly bid for John Mc Ginn amongst other things...poor management at all levels now showing in results

[clarshack]

When we didn't score when on top in the first half there was only going to be one outcome.
If there's any consolation we've been put out of our misery at this stage of the season, and now it's time to finally get a new manager in to rebuild for next season. And even Bilic would be a massive upgrade on Lennon.

[marty34]

Rodgers left for a club that spent £100 million on training facilities...after Celtic failed to up their measly bid for John Mc Ginn amongst other things...poor management at all levels now showing in results

True - they gambled and lost...big time.

Lawell thought Celtic could keep winning in Scotland and get an odd result in Europe to get to the group stages (Champions Lge or Europa Lge) and everything would be happy.  Didn't want to spend money on Mc Ginn or, more recently, Toney, but then panic buy with Ajeti etc.

League not lost today - Lennon should have went 4 months ago. It was clear this past few years, especially in Europe, that he didn't have a clue about tactics or formations etc.  He's a nodding dog for Lawell and isn't good enough.  Some of the results against minnows in Europe have been more embarrassing than today.  Be interesting to see where he goes after Celtic.

The club has been run down this past few years - everything on the cheap.

[ned]

Rodgers left for a club that spent £100 million on training facilities...after Celtic failed to up their measly bid for John Mc Ginn amongst other things...poor management at all levels now showing in results

True - they gambled and lost...big time.

Lawell thought Celtic could keep winning in Scotland and get an odd result in Europe to get to the group stages (Champions Lge or Europa Lge) and everything would be happy.  Didn't want to spend money on Mc Ginn or, more recently, Toney, but then panic buy with Ajeti etc.

League not lost today - Lennon should have went 4 months ago. It was clear this past few years, especially in Europe, that he didn't have a clue about tactics or formations etc.  He's a nodding dog for Lawell and isn't good enough.  Some of the results against minnows in Europe have been more embarrassing than today.  Be interesting to see where he goes after Celtic.

The club has been run down this past few years - everything on the cheap.

Pretty succinct summary. The problem hasn't just been this season. It goes all the way back to when MON left. From there we have had two good years under a good manager. Basically 15 years of mismanagement. There was going to come a time when Rangers won the league but it shouldn't be this year or next (because they aren't  a good team, functional at best) but in about 5 or 6 years time at earliest. Negligence on part of our board.

[Angelo]

Rodgers left for a club that spent £100 million on training facilities...after Celtic failed to up their measly bid for John Mc Ginn amongst other things...poor management at all levels now showing in results

True - they gambled and lost...big time.

Lawell thought Celtic could keep winning in Scotland and get an odd result in Europe to get to the group stages (Champions Lge or Europa Lge) and everything would be happy.  Didn't want to spend money on Mc Ginn or, more recently, Toney, but then panic buy with Ajeti etc.

League not lost today - Lennon should have went 4 months ago. It was clear this past few years, especially in Europe, that he didn't have a clue about tactics or formations etc.  He's a nodding dog for Lawell and isn't good enough.  Some of the results against minnows in Europe have been more embarrassing than today.  Be interesting to see where he goes after Celtic.

The club has been run down this past few years - everything on the cheap.

Pretty succinct summary. The problem hasn't just been this season. It goes all the way back to when MON left. From there we have had two good years under a good manager. Basically 15 years of mismanagement. There was going to come a time when Rangers won the league but it shouldn't be this year or next (because they aren't  a good team, functional at best) but in about 5 or 6 years time at earliest. Negligence on part of our board.

Lawwell joined in O'Neill's last season so spot the pattern.

Tbf Lawwell should have been sacked after the shambles he made with Balde's contract then froze our best centre half and highest earner out of the first team because he made a mug out of him.

[StPatsAbu]

What a sad fcking day.  The fact it was a must win is in itself a tragedy.   

The lockdown should have presented the opportunity to see Rangers bankrupt again but the board pissed away millions on average players, penny pinched on real quality like John McGinn to save 500k and then went for a cheap manager in Lennon thinking he could beat a Rangers who were in financial diffs again.

Gerrard will probably get them into the UCL group stages and clear their debt in one go. Joke

[clarshack]

What a sad fcking day.  The fact it was a must win is in itself a tragedy.   

The lockdown should have presented the opportunity to see Rangers bankrupt again but the board pissed away millions on average players, penny pinched on real quality like John McGinn to save 500k and then went for a cheap manager in Lennon thinking he could beat a Rangers who were in financial diffs again.

Gerrard will probably get them into the UCL group stages and clear their debt in one go. Joke

That petty much sums it up unfortunately.

[Tommo2]

The money men couldn't afford for sevco to go bust again. If rangers fail, Celtic make less money ala 2012-2016. Sevco in so much debt this year, that if they don't qualify for champions league, they are gone again. Money men made a decision to effectively forfeit the league to keep sevco alive. 10 in a row would be great for the support, but money men don't care about that. Lennon is just the fall guy.

[sid waddell]

What a sad fcking day.  The fact it was a must win is in itself a tragedy.   

The lockdown should have presented the opportunity to see Rangers bankrupt again but the board pissed away millions on average players, penny pinched on real quality like John McGinn to save 500k and then went for a cheap manager in Lennon thinking he could beat a Rangers who were in financial diffs again.

Gerrard will probably get them into the UCL group stages and clear their debt in one go. Joke

It was a football match FFS

50 years ago to the day when Rangers played Celtic at Ibrox, now that was a tragedy

[RedHand88]

The money men couldn't afford for sevco to go bust again. If rangers fail, Celtic make less money ala 2012-2016. Sevco in so much debt this year, that if they don't qualify for champions league, they are gone again. Money men made a decision to effectively forfeit the league to keep sevco alive. 10 in a row would be great for the support, but money men don't care about that. Lennon is just the fall guy.

Or maybe, maybe... Celtic are just crap?

[From the Bunker]

The money men couldn't afford for sevco to go bust again. If rangers fail, Celtic make less money ala 2012-2016. Sevco in so much debt this year, that if they don't qualify for champions league, they are gone again. Money men made a decision to effectively forfeit the league to keep sevco alive. 10 in a row would be great for the support, but money men don't care about that. Lennon is just the fall guy.

Have heard of that sort of stuff before. Back 20+ years ago when Rangers were very strong and a plethora of points in front in the League, Rangers would throw a League game the week before the scheduled Old Firm Derby. In doing so they'd offer a (very) small window of opportunity to Celtic. This would heighten the profile and interest of the upcoming game. Fans would go crazy for tickets. Betting on the game would go up! It also helped make the League look competitive - even if it was not!

I think of the Dublin Football team in AI finals the last couple of years where they take the foot off the pedal and try to make the final score as if the final was not a mis-match.

[Mikhail Prokhorov]

The money men couldn't afford for sevco to go bust again. If rangers fail, Celtic make less money ala 2012-2016. Sevco in so much debt this year, that if they don't qualify for champions league, they are gone again. Money men made a decision to effectively forfeit the league to keep sevco alive. 10 in a row would be great for the support, but money men don't care about that. Lennon is just the fall guy.

Have heard of that sort of stuff before. Back 20+ years ago when Rangers were very strong and a plethora of points in front in the League, Rangers would throw a League game the week before the scheduled Old Firm Derby. In doing so they'd offer a (very) small window of opportunity to Celtic. This would heighten the profile and interest of the upcoming game. Fans would go crazy for tickets. Betting on the game would go up! It also helped make the League look competitive - even if it was not!

I think of the Dublin Football team in AI finals the last couple of years where they take the foot off the pedal and try to make the final score as if the final was not a mis-match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz1nIHv6P6Q

[trailer]

The money men couldn't afford for sevco to go bust again. If rangers fail, Celtic make less money ala 2012-2016. Sevco in so much debt this year, that if they don't qualify for champions league, they are gone again. Money men made a decision to effectively forfeit the league to keep sevco alive. 10 in a row would be great for the support, but money men don't care about that. Lennon is just the fall guy.

f**k me, this is up there with Bill Gates is injecting us with microchips.