Ineptitude in the public service

[seafoid]

This is a huge subject. The Gardai are just one example

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/call-to-allow-overseas-officers-take-up-top-garda-posts-rejected-1.3065739

[armaghniac]

This is a huge subject. The Gardai are just one example

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/call-to-allow-overseas-officers-take-up-top-garda-posts-rejected-1.3065739

One reason it is a huge issue that the public do not distinguish between inept public services and good ones, nor between the politicians responsible for same. Unless you stop lumping the good, the bad and the ugly in the same generalities then nothing will change.

[Milltown Row2]

It won't affect the yuppies in the 26, maybe the just the queues of people lining up at the food banks

[Avondhu star]

Thankfully there are no shyster solicitors, crooked auctioneers, Del boy type motor dealers and general useless tradesmen and builders in the private sector waiting to rip off their customers.

[Milltown Row2]

Thankfully there are no shyster solicitors, crooked auctioneers, Del boy type motor dealers and general useless tradesmen and builders in the private sector waiting to rip off their customers.

Why should they miss out?

[trileacman]

Thankfully there are no shyster solicitors, crooked auctioneers, Del boy type motor dealers and general useless tradesmen and builders in the private sector waiting to rip off their customers.

Not the same thing. What you describe is deliberate malificence but it takes brains for that kind of stuff. The public sector and everyone working in it is a money wasting tit. The majority of them haven't the brains to line their own pockets but prefer to piss away someone else's money.

[magpie seanie]

In my experience the higher up you go in these organisations the more the ineptitude increases. The vast majority of rank and file guards, nurses and other frontline public servants are excellent.....doing a super job in often terrible circumstances. It's very wrong that they are put in those positions every day, trying to do their jobs with one hand tied behind their backs.

[Avondhu star]

Thankfully there are no shyster solicitors, crooked auctioneers, Del boy type motor dealers and general useless tradesmen and builders in the private sector waiting to rip off their customers.

Not the same thing. What you describe is deliberate malificence but it takes brains for that kind of stuff. The public sector and everyone working in it is a money wasting tit. The majority of them haven't the brains to line their own pockets but prefer to piss away someone else's money.

They knew enough to organise your remedial learning class even though that was obviously a waste of money

[seafoid]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/35-children-in-contact-with-hse-died-over-last-18-months-1.626861

The Irish Times - Wednesday, October 19, 2011
35 children in contact with HSE died over last 18 months
CARL O'BRIEN Chief Reporter
THE HEALTH Service Executive has pledged to improve child protection services following reports which show up to 35 young people who were known to social services have died over the past 18 months.
Most young people died from natural causes, followed by suicide, accidents and drug overdoses. The deaths include children who were known to social services or previously had contact with child protection services. Only three children were in the care system at the time of their death.
The National Review Panel – a group established by the HSE to investigate all deaths and serious incidents of children in care – has found that the inaction of the HSE was not directly linked to any deaths.
However, the independent chair of the group, Dr Helen Buckley of Trinity College Dublin, criticised the HSE for numerous failures which led to sub-standard care in some cases.
She said the HSE was responsible for failing to have a standardised method to assess the needs of children and young people who come to the attention of social services.
There was a lack of co-operation and communication between different agencies responsible for providing services to children at risk.
In addition, she said pressure on frontline social work services meant they were unable to respond quickly to many child welfare referrals.
In one case highlighted – the death of a four-month old baby "Baby G" – it took almost two years for social services to meet face-to-face with the child's mother, despite serious welfare concerns for her family.
Paul Harrison, the HSE's national child care specialist, sympathised with families who have lost children.
He said the executive was working to introduce standardised assessments of children at risk from next year onwards. He added officials were examining new ways of handling "how cases come in through the front door", and making greater use of community and voluntary groups.
The annual report for the National Review Panel also states that its workload is "virtually impossible" to carry out due to the number of cases it is required to investigate.
While initial estimates suggested the panel would be likely to deal with just two deaths and eight serious incidents a year, the panel dealt with some 22 deaths and eight serious incidents in 2010 alone.
Children's groups including the Children's Rights Alliance and Epic – which represents children in care – called on health authorities to urgently address the gaps and deficits highlighted in the report

[armaghniac]

The recent "Grace" case is a good example.
Various people called for action over the years, but other people prevented this action. If you have  a situation where there is no effective reward for having been doing the right thing, nor sanction for those neglected the person in care, then little will change 

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/not-just-shocking-but-a-scandal-judge-approves-63m-settlement-package-for-grace-35659910.html

[seafoid]

Moyross in Limerick is another great example. Problems were left to fester for years.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/seven-of-top-10-jobless-blackspots-in-limerick-1.1069364
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/moyross-revamp-must-be-followed-up-priest-241633.html

The costs are over one billion

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/limerick-is-safer-but-threats-still-remain-1.1493316
"Remember, the neglect in Limerick wasn't a recent issue," said one former senior city official, who declined to be named. "This happened over the course of three decades. You can't change that overnight.
"We have to make sure that a new generation doesn't step into the vacuum left behind."
The scale of that challenge is daunting. Dr Niamh Hourigan, a Limerick-born sociologist, found as much during her in- depth community level study of fear and feuding in the city between 2007 and 2010.
Her study chronicles mothers who consciously decide to raise their children "tough" simply to enable them to survive, to children who have worked hard to acquire the mannerisms of "hard men"in order to survive, to the "serious players" in feuding whose stress disorders are comparable to those of soldiers in war zones.

[seafoid]

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/new-figures-show-25-children-in-care-or-known-to-social-services-died-last-year-35700067.html

[johnneycool]

Poor old Nóirín cant find her phone;

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/incredible-that-mobile-phone-belonging-to-garda-commissioner-has-gone-missing-791600.html

[StGallsGAA]

Dunno about the South but in the North the Civil Service exists primarily to give employment to the otherwise unemployable section of the public. 

[armaghniac]

Poor old Nóirín cant find her phone;

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/incredible-that-mobile-phone-belonging-to-garda-commissioner-has-gone-missing-791600.html

Do you have your 2013 phone to hand?