A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

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red hander

Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

Therealdonald

Think this is the SDLP signing their own death warrant once and for all. Hume knew by signing the GFA that he was probably going to cost his party its position in the future little did he know just haw far they would fall.

Not taking away from the man, he was a great man. Be nothing here only for him, McGuinness and Adams.

BennyCake

Quote from: red hander on April 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

When it comes to politics, people have short memories. Thatcher and her Tory's wreck the place, then the Brits couldn't get them back quick enough.


JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 19, 2018, 07:23:03 PM
Startling news for Arlene & Co:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43823506

Not really startling the actual moment has already come and gone with most number crunchers estimating that the catholic community background overtook the Protestant community background at the end of 2016. However its not a majority ie over 50% that will take a lot longer. He also dwells a lot on the identity question which was asked for the first time in 2011 and probably added as cover for the changing community background totals. Most people answered it based on a number of factors and probably didn't expect it to be used as another orange green stat with literally everybody claiming the 'northern irish' for themselves expect more British and Irish answers next time.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 10, 2018, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 09, 2018, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on April 09, 2018, 11:01:20 PM
So Bertie Ahearn after saying on Newsnight that a border poll which throws up a 52-48 majority for a United Ireland would not be good enough.  What does he want, 60-40, 70-30 or the best of three ... when democracy is no longer democracy.
He's irrelevant and despised by most.
+1.

Going off tangent but what are people's thoughts about a mooted FF amalgamation with SDLP for future NI elections?

This seems to come up every few years. Couldn't see it happening. SDLP's heart beats closer to Labour in any case.

balladmaker

#2286
So in 2021, the 100th anniversary of NI, a gerrymandered Protestant state for a Protestant people, and we will have a Catholic majority.  Oh the irony of it all.


Avondhu star

Quote from: BennyCake on April 10, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: red hander on April 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

When it comes to politics, people have short memories. Thatcher and her Tory's wreck the place, then the Brits couldn't get them back quick enough.
People have short memories. The Provos plant bombs ,murder innocent men women and children, disappear so called informers on the instruction of the worst informer of all in a hierarchy riddled with informers and still people will vote for their political wing. It isn't only FF have a history.
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

trailer

Quote from: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 10, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: red hander on April 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

When it comes to politics, people have short memories. Thatcher and her Tory's wreck the place, then the Brits couldn't get them back quick enough.
People have short memories. The Provos plant bombs ,murder innocent men women and children, disappear so called informers on the instruction of the worst informer of all in a hierarchy riddled with informers and still people will vote for their political wing. It isn't only FF have a history.

<mic drop>

Therealdonald

Quote from: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 10, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: red hander on April 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

When it comes to politics, people have short memories. Thatcher and her Tory's wreck the place, then the Brits couldn't get them back quick enough.
People have short memories. The Provos plant bombs ,murder innocent men women and children, disappear so called informers on the instruction of the worst informer of all in a hierarchy riddled with informers and still people will vote for their political wing. It isn't only FF have a history.

The Provos planted bombs with the support of the majority of the Catholic/Nationalist community. So people are just carrying on their support. It's not short memories...its simply people agreed with the means to an end and are now carrying on their support??? Don't understand how you dont get this...and befor eyou get on your high horse and start naming victims, mistakes were made and people died that shouldnt have. But for a whole are we better off now than in the 60's and closer to what we want and are entitled to? Damn right we are.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Therealdonald on April 20, 2018, 05:03:42 PM

The Provos planted bombs with the support of the majority of the Catholic/Nationalist community.

So how do you explain the SDLP being the biggest nationalist party for years until well after the Provo ceasefire?

Avondhu star

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 20, 2018, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on April 20, 2018, 05:03:42 PM

The Provos planted bombs with the support of the majority of the Catholic/Nationalist community.

So how do you explain the SDLP being the biggest nationalist party for years until well after the Provo ceasefire?

Just allow for the fact he is one of the Shinners useful idiots brainwashed by Adams
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Rois

Quote from: Therealdonald on April 20, 2018, 05:03:42 PM

The Provos planted bombs with the support of the majority of the Catholic/Nationalist community. So people are just carrying on their support. 
WTF?? Do you really believe this? SF's attempts to re-write the last 40 years are totally pathetic.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 20, 2018, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on April 20, 2018, 05:03:42 PM

The Provos planted bombs with the support of the majority of the Catholic/Nationalist community.

So how do you explain the SDLP being the biggest nationalist party for years until well after the Provo ceasefire?

When exactly did SF overtake SDLP, would it be 10 years ago or more at this stage?
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red hander

Quote from: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 10, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: red hander on April 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
Cannot believe FF are still a force in the Republic after nearly sinking the country a few years back. Jaysus, people have short memories. I know the SDLP are in dire straits, but to hitch their wagon to that shower of corrupt clowns shows how bad things are for wee Colum. Saying that, McCrossan would fit right in with FF, the snivelling little shit

When it comes to politics, people have short memories. Thatcher and her Tory's wreck the place, then the Brits couldn't get them back quick enough.
People have short memories. The Provos plant bombs ,murder innocent men women and children, disappear so called informers on the instruction of the worst informer of all in a hierarchy riddled with informers and still people will vote for their political wing. It isn't only FF have a history.

You're right. Freedom for 26 of the 32 counties was won by asking those awfully nice British chaps if they would mind awfully f**king off ... hypocrisy seeps out of almost everything you post, ya clown  ::)