East wall #Irelandisfull

[whitey]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Christ more examples..

You don't! How did the Americans know that you weren't a waster, or a bigot or a racist?

Maybe that fits well in the States but if you had to pass a test to get into a country based on morality, you'd fail

You're the one saying how things work (or should work) but when the rubber meets the road the laws aren't enforced

Is asking for laws to be enforced rascist?

[whitey]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/fugitive-wanted-in-sweden-for-attacking-cops-during-burning-of-quran-riots-refused-bail/a75515938.html

This guy entered without a passport even though he had an active warrant from Sweeden

Am I a racist for suggesting he should have been denied entry?


Is the judge a racist :

" Ms Justice Melanie Greally said the court was concerned that he appeared to have travelled to Ireland without his passport"

[Milltown Row2]

You're sad. It's ok, living away in the states won't have help. God love you

[whitey]

You're sad. It's ok, living away in the states won't have help. God love you

I'm actually quite comfortable with my views

Legitimate questions are being asked of the governments handling of this crisis

The answer to these questions is not to accuse the people asking of being racist and far right.

[Milltown Row2]

You're sad. It's ok, living away in the states won't have help. God love you

I'm actually quite comfortable with my views

Legitimate questions are being asked of the governments handling of this crisis

The answer to these questions is not to accuse the people asking of being racist and far right.

Questions are not being asked or put to politicians..

No, it's easier to terrorise refugees or immigrants than go to the houses of politicians and terrorise them or, oh I know, vote them.

Blame the system not people taking advantage of it

[burdizzo]

You're sad. It's ok, living away in the states won't have help. God love you

Pathetic, cheap shot. You don't say that to Eamonnaca, I notice, and no one says it to you, living in the north, and all. Besides, for you holier-than-thou bleeding hearts, it shouldn't matter where someone's from, eh?

[Armagh18]

So because we have criminals here already it's ok to import more? And if you don't want that to happen you are s racist?

[Eire90]

when people protests outside homes of politicians does a lot of people not moan and say its over the top

[trueblue1234]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

[Rossfan]

The Fascist catchphrases translated from mid or Eastern European languages...
"Unvetted" (as most Irish people are too). IP applicants are screened.
"Single males of military age". Conspiracy theory that these are all undercover soldiers  One genius in Newbridge says they're all undercover NATO soldiers.
Of course it is and was always easier and safer for young males to move around than for females or older people.

"White genocide" "Plantation" "Invasion"

[Milltown Row2]

So because we have criminals here already it's ok to import more? And if you don't want that to happen you are s racist?

Thats a tired argument, stop using it.
Immigrants refugees illegals are here, standing with pitchforks and torches where these people are living makes you a racist.

You might as well stick on the white hooded cloaks while you're at it

[ThomasMullan]

The Fascist catchphrases translated from mid or Eastern European languages...
"Unvetted" (as most Irish people are too). IP applicants are screened.
"Single males of military age". Conspiracy theory that these are all undercover soldiers  One genius in Newbridge says they're all undercover NATO soldiers.
Of course it is and was always easier and safer for young males to move around than for females or older people.

"White genocide" "Plantation" "Invasion"

Plantation is my favourite. Absolute simpletons.

[Kidder81]

Is this a good thing (I think it is) or is this a racist government ?

Or too late ?


https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mcentee-to-expand-list-of-safe-countries-to-cut-down-on-asylum-seekers-1580180.html

The Minister of Justice is to expand the list of "safe countries" in a bid to cut down on the numbers arriving here seeking international protection.

Helen McEntee has told fellow ministers that she plans to add more countries to the current list of eight safe countries and will have a memo ready to go to the Government for sign-off in the coming weeks.


As the Irish Examiner reports, the Government also wants to substantially increase the fines that are imposed on airlines if passengers arrive here without passports or official documents.

It is understood Minister for Housing Darragh O'Brien suggested that the current airline penalties, which stand at €1,500 per offence, should be doubled and perhaps tripled.

There was broad agreement to this proposal during a meeting of the Sub-Cabinet Committee on Ukraine this afternoon.

Out of the 16.6 million passengers that arrived at airports, 3,285 could not provide documentation and the Government accepts that this must be tackled.


Outlining her plans to expand the list of safe countries, Ms McEntee pointed out that the number of people arriving from Georgia has halved since it was added to the list of "safe countries".

Ministers also discussed health provisions for those arriving from Ukraine and elsewhere, as well as education.

It is understood Education Minister Norma Foley called for increased capital investment in schools, pointing to a particular pressure at secondary level and late primary level.

Minister for Public Expenditure Paschal Donohoe, who attended the meeting, is already engaging with a number of Departments on funding for capital projects.

Both the Taoiseach and the Tánaiste stressed the need for a coherent and coordinated communications strategy on the asylum process and accommodation for both Ukrainians and others seeking protection here.

[tonto1888]

The Whiteys of the World only see black skin or Muslim sounding names to get outraged.
They dont notice or feel the need to  comment on crimes by people who look like themselves or have "white" sounding names.

Absolute racists.
 

So it's racist to expect immigration law to be properly enforced and "foreign" criminals to be deported? (where appropriate)

There have been home grown Irish criminals since the foundation of the state.

Are you suggesting that because some Irish people are criminals, we should open our borders to criminals from other countries and not make any effort to prevent "bad apples" from coming in? 

(Doesn't make much sense to me)

One thing we should be able to expect is equal outrage when the murderers or criminals are locals. We don't get that though. Can you explain why?

[tonto1888]

Only, or mainly, in Western Europe are countries having serious problems with immigration. I merely want us to protect ourselves for future generations.

However, thanks for the holier-than-thou lecture.

Look, it's pretty obvious neither of us is going to persuade the other, and while I know arguing with strangers on the internet is basically pointless, sometimes it can be stimulating. This, though, isn't -  so I'm off to scrub the dishes!

Like what? Upsetting racist patients who want to be treated by one of their own?

Or upsetting racist patients who don't want a fella jerking off at the foot of their hospital bed when theyre recovering from an operation might be a start

A fella with 8 priors BTW

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/serial-flasher-jailed-after-performing-sexual-act-in-front-of-woman-in-hospital-as-she-recovered-from-surgery/a2146621981.html

Are you gonna comment on the fella with over 30 priors who was free to murder a young lad in lurgan? Or does thefact he was a local make it ok? Or maybe it's because his victim was from the north?