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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:37:34 PM »
Whatever Rodgers is on he deserves a payRISE for what he has done since he came into the club. I doubted him in Europe but he has now got the club to 2 successive group stages and proven to be a great manager thus far.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:30:44 PM »
What a result!

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:39:01 PM »
Seen enough from Astana in the firsdt half to know that they are no mugs. They have to score at least one goal in the second half to remain in the tie though so it should have a real cup tie feel to it in the second half.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:29:38 PM »
If the final score stays like this then they will have one foot in the group stages.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:58:06 PM »
Does anyone know if the U17 final is being televised?

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General discussion / Re: Mayweather v Mc Gregor
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:55:20 PM »
So first we have Mayweather saying he is not the fighteer that he once was, then McGregore knocks 50 shades out of Malignaggi and now they announce 8oz gloves. You would nearly swear that it was a cleverly designed marketing ploy to make people think that McGregor has a chance of winning the fight. A pure pantomime. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:57:54 PM »
Why has this become an issue now all of a sudden anyway?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:46:02 PM »
Has anyone considered the odds on this to be a real gift? Tyrone are 5/2 with most places, surely that's great value and it's closer than that?

If the odds are based on past performances then they are probably correct. On the face of it, a team with 4 All Ireland's against a team that has yet to win a big championship knock out game, it's hard to argue. However Tyrone are just starting out and improving whilst Dublin are a couple of years past their peak and on that basis Tyrone are too big at those odds. I rarely back GAA matches but I will be backing Tyrone to beat Dublin the next day at those odds.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:36:05 PM »
It's pure guesswork but I'd doubt if those flying the flag even knew what it stood for. Now that it's connotations are widely known I'd expect that they refrain from flying it. Im not even sure why any Cork GAA county supporter feels the need to fly this or indeed any other non Cork GAA flag in any case.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 15, 2017, 04:19:24 PM »
You have to play the system that best suits the players you have at your disposal. Harte doesn't have any real marquee forwards capable of shooting the lights out a la Brogan, Rock, O Donoghue or Geaney. Most of his best players are stacked in the middle 8 and are strong athletes best suited to a running style. Therefore he has to compensate by playing this ultra defensive system. It is not pretty to watch but sometimes you have to cut your cloth to suit. Any rational manager with an ounce of sense would play a similar system as Harte. In his own words, he is not there to entertain, he is there to win.

Maybe this is the only system that suits these Tyrone players. Far be it for me to argue with Mickey Harte about this. Looking from the outside it seems a lot of decent forwards have been sacrificed to the system over the last few years. No forward is going to be marquee playing this kind of football but for me this style of football has nothing to do with lack of forwards and all to do with no confidence in his defense.
As I said Mickey Harte went all in a couple of years ago that this was the way to beat Dublin. He has been refining the system over the last 3 years. 2015 they were two inexperienced for Kerry so they didn't get a chance to try it on Dublin, 2016 they didn't perform and off course the big bad wolf Lee Keegan stopped them trying it out on Dublin. 2017, No more excuses. This is it. If it doesn't work where do Mickey Harte and Tyrone turn to

That probably rings true as well since I think they have weaknesses in the full back line as well that he is probably trying to cover up by offering them more protection. So what you get in Tyrone matches is a crowded defence who make it very difficult for opponents to kick the ball long into a full forward line that are operating in congested space and a Tyrone side that when they turn the ball over, have very few bodies up the pitch so that they have to run it deep from defence. It's like groundhog day with a lot of sideways passing and a basketball type affair with very little kick passing. I expect more of this on Sunday with a low scoring contest with very few goal chances. To expect Harte to do anything different at this stage would be foolish. If it doesn't work then it doesn't mean that another system would have worked. To believe that then you would have to believe that Tyrone have better players than Dublin which I don't think too many people would argue. Frustrating Dublin and denying them the space they need is the best way of giving themselves the best opportunity to win the match.
Neither Tyrone or Dublin have been involved in low scoring affairs this year in the championship. I don't expect it to be that low scoring. I'd expect it to get of to a blistering start but unfortunately I still think the Dub are ahead in the conditioning aspect and I expect them to drop the hammer in the second half.

The Dubs have just pummelled all of the hapless opposition to date with superior conditioning, movement and ability. Tyrone have picked off weaker opponents largely by turning over opposition ball and transitioning the ball quickly through the hand on fast counter attacks. They have improved greatly at the counter attacking aspect. You point to both sides scoring records in support of this being a high scoring contest, whilst I could easily point to their defensive records as proof that it will be a low scoring contest. Neither would be wrong.   

Neither side will have an advantage over the other physically in this contest and I expect that Tyrone will play the same system whilst the Dubs will set up a bit more cautiously to guard against Tyrone counter attacks. It will become an arm wrestle similar to Tyrone v Mayo (0-13 to 0-12) last year or even this years League encounter ending 0-10 to 1-7. Small margins will decide the outcome and I reckon the greater willingness to win will be on the Tyrone side which will see them over the line in the crucial last 10 minutes. 

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Expect to see the Kingdom win this one pulling up. Much the same as the Galway game. Mayo for all their virtues just can't keep it together against the Traditional sides. We are just a bit to cute for them. Whether it's influencing a referee to getting easy scores! Sad really as I'd love to see Mayo win an All Ireland.......one day! :)

What happened to the usual Kerry false modesty!

Prior to Mayo's performance the last day I would have agreed but perhaps there is something still there with Mayo. There was enough in that performance to think they will at least be competitive in this match. Or at least we can hope.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 15, 2017, 10:51:26 AM »
You have to play the system that best suits the players you have at your disposal. Harte doesn't have any real marquee forwards capable of shooting the lights out a la Brogan, Rock, O Donoghue or Geaney. Most of his best players are stacked in the middle 8 and are strong athletes best suited to a running style. Therefore he has to compensate by playing this ultra defensive system. It is not pretty to watch but sometimes you have to cut your cloth to suit. Any rational manager with an ounce of sense would play a similar system as Harte. In his own words, he is not there to entertain, he is there to win.

Maybe this is the only system that suits these Tyrone players. Far be it for me to argue with Mickey Harte about this. Looking from the outside it seems a lot of decent forwards have been sacrificed to the system over the last few years. No forward is going to be marquee playing this kind of football but for me this style of football has nothing to do with lack of forwards and all to do with no confidence in his defense.
As I said Mickey Harte went all in a couple of years ago that this was the way to beat Dublin. He has been refining the system over the last 3 years. 2015 they were two inexperienced for Kerry so they didn't get a chance to try it on Dublin, 2016 they didn't perform and off course the big bad wolf Lee Keegan stopped them trying it out on Dublin. 2017, No more excuses. This is it. If it doesn't work where do Mickey Harte and Tyrone turn to

That probably rings true as well since I think they have weaknesses in the full back line as well that he is probably trying to cover up by offering them more protection. So what you get in Tyrone matches is a crowded defence who make it very difficult for opponents to kick the ball long into a full forward line that are operating in congested space and a Tyrone side that when they turn the ball over, have very few bodies up the pitch so that they have to run it deep from defence. It's like groundhog day with a lot of sideways passing and a basketball type affair with very little kick passing. I expect more of this on Sunday with a low scoring contest with very few goal chances. To expect Harte to do anything different at this stage would be foolish. If it doesn't work then it doesn't mean that another system would have worked. To believe that then you would have to believe that Tyrone have better players than Dublin which I don't think too many people would argue. Frustrating Dublin and denying them the space they need is the best way of giving themselves the best opportunity to win the match. 

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David Brady now suggesting that Aidan O'Se should go to full back to mark Donaghy. How some of these pundits get air time, I don't understand. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 15, 2017, 10:20:18 AM »
Yellowcard, did you join Main Street and also marry a Tyrone woman as both of ye sometimes shock me with your very pro Tyrone stance.

I think it's fair to say that Mickey knows the system he has his team playing the last few years has been with playing a style to suit his players and to combat Dublin and Kerry (OK OK and maybe Mayo as well  ;D)

I don't think you will see Mickey move too far away from that template against the Dubs but there is of course the likelihood he will try somethings different.
For me kick-outs are a huge big deal in the game now and get them wrong the can lead to goal chances.
A bad short kick-out or one that a forward guesses right and intercepts can lead to a goal and in tight matches like this that can be the winning or losing of the game.
Also this year we've seen a lot more of the long kickout over the heads of the midfielders and so if it breaks right can lead to a player having a straight run through for a goal chance on the other end as Peter Harte had v Armagh but messed it up.

As Whelan said on TSG, you would not be surprised if both teams play it cagey for most of the game and let the other team win their own kick-outs so it will almost become like basketball where it's a matter of taking turns at attacks and can ye score or will it be turned over and the other team then attack.

Id say for a lot of neutrals it will not be an enjoyable game, especially if you like to see traditional kicking it in early to the FF line but for the two set of supporters and those who like tactical battles I'd say it could be a cracker.
I liked the way in recent games Tyrone have created goals chances from kicking it in long to space in behind the defence. Sean Cavanagh's pass to Mulgrew in the Armagh game was exquisite as it had to be weighted exactly right though Mulgrew still had a lot to do and resisted the blast it at the keeper option.

Certainly not, I'm neither pro or anti Tyrone just giving my honest opinion. I agree that this will be an overly tactical battle and the match will be won and lost on the sideline as much as it will on the field. I think if Micky Harte can win an AI with this Tyrone side, it will be his greatest ever achievement.   

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If Mayo are focussing on Moran and O'Donoghue then that will surely be music to Kerry's ears. Moran is excellent from kick outs but from open play he moves slowly around the pitch. If you take restart situations out of the game he is certainly not a man that needs any extra attention. Also it is hard to believe that Geaney seems to get less attention than O'Donoghue despite the fact that he is a much better player. O'Donoghue is a one trick pony who relies on blistering pace, putting the head down and running hard and direct at the goals. At his best he can be devastating but that hasn't happened consistently since 2014. Geaney on the other hand has been the best forward in the country for the last 2 years and he is the one they need to stop most. 

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