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I do not understand homelessness.It was never a problem in my young day,yet money was scarce.Addicts were committed to appropriate institutions to receive treatment and often "signed in" by their families,contrary to their own wishes.

It all boils down to living within your means.

There are two reasons for homelessness as I see it,addicts who won't seek help,and people who have proved they cannot manage their finances to keep a roof over their heads.

More houses for people who are incapable of dealing with the responsibilities of household management doesn't seem to be the answer.

This post just highlights the complete lack of understanding and empathy of the situation that people find themselves. Using this mantra, society should be 'every person for themselves' and an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude. It's a horrible stereotypical attitude that would not be out of place on the far right wing of the Tory Party.   

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 01:37:00 PM »
results have been good this season from Utd, no doubting that. What concerns me most is the style of football and the fact that the traditional attacking football of the club has been discarded in favour of a pragmatic safety first low risk game. Man City are over hyped but I do think that if we simply swap managers then it could easily be Utd sitting at the top of the table playing the all out attacking football. Mourinho was never a Utd manager and the only way he will ever justify his methods is by winning PL/CL titles.   

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:00:38 PM »
Foster says she was looking for more time for "more clarification" but May told her there was no more time and she was going with the text as it was.
In other words ya've had yar  fun Arlene now the big girls are going out to play.
That Frew is in some parallel universe.

Listening to the radio and commentators are saying they can't belive the DUP are saying there wasn't enogh time as their usual gig is to stall until the 11th hour and get what they want.
The fact that are talking like that means their hand was forced.

Also any tweets from Borris or any Brexiter or DUP person is surely just saving face and keeping up the stupid bluster that has us all where we are.

I also found it very curious that Foster said that she ran out of time. Sounds like the Tories were for steaming ahead regardless knowing full well that the DUP couldn't countenance the alternative of potentially running the risk of another general election.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:35:20 AM »
Demographics mean nothing.Unionists are getting ready to celebrate their 100th birthday.Expect to see a pledge to reach 200.Then again there is the issue that very few in the South want a United Ireland.None of us will ever see it.

Again I ask the question,what makes anyone think a United Ireland is viable when the South went bankrupt despite its love affair with the EU? What is the difference in swapping sovereign govt by Britain for that of the EU? Or as I suspect is everyone just politically motivated by outcomes that will annoy the prods?

Demographic's mean everything you eejit.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:43:44 AM »
Economically it has become a no brainer, the statelet is in a permanent state of disrepair in its current guise.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/demographics-are-shifting-towards-a-united-ireland-we-must-have-a-plan-35865222.html

Also the demographics show that unionists still have a significant majority at older age groups. As the age profile gets younger this veers towards a nationalist majority. Be it 10/20/30 years time, at some point in the not too distant future this will translate into an overall majority. Once the economic argument can be won this will lead to an inevitable UI.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 07, 2017, 11:26:06 PM »
Both letters pages are generally a good barometer of opinion.FFS show me a shred of evidence that any section of unionism is willing to even consider a United Ireland.When the likes of Alex Kane won't even contemplate it there is no chance of Unionist consent.

Dear god, twitter and message boards are more relevant than newspaper letter page in the current age.

The fact that you personally as a middle ground independent state advocate couldn't categorically state that you wouldn't vote against a UI is progress in itself.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 07, 2017, 09:33:57 PM »
And a United Ireland is sustainable? How? Sure the 26 counties was bankrupt recently😂😂😂.It cannot even manage itself never mind taking on board the basket case economy of the six counties!

Seriously I would doubt if I'd vote for a United Ireland now.I am not convinced about its financial management ability ,all its governments were crap,many run by corrupt shysters,it is behoven to the EU with little or no sovereignty left,and I disagree with its stance on gay marriage etc,its shameful and immoral tax concessions to big multinational companies

Better the devil you know! In any event not one person posting on this board will live long enough to see a United Ireland.

 ;D ;D ;D And that is different to the politicians in the north how?

If you're arguing over the respective strength of the 2 economies then you're talking nonsense. The north is an economic basket case at present but given time could eventually flourish inside a UI.

Also you say you doubt if you would vote for a UI. Yet countless times previously you have advocated an independent state due to a distinct culture. So in that case why is there even a doubt that you might even contemplate a UI that you can't even say for definite that you wouldn't vote for it now. If even you are doubting your own decision that previously you were set against then that in itself is a sign that the middle ground alliance and soft unionists are at least contemplating the prospect.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 07, 2017, 04:15:38 PM »
So the latest ruse is that discrimination was just an excuse for all those low life failure's in society who never made anything of themselves. Just because you personally were so wonderful to be able to overcome any prejudice and become a member of the middle class in society does not make it true for a whole population of catholics.   

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 05, 2017, 09:51:38 PM »
So one guy fantasises about a United Ireland and it's going to happen? Maybe its because I'm from Portadown that it makes it easy for me to realise the depth of Unionist feeling and determination to resist a United Ireland,and know it's never going to happen.

They see themselves as more British than the British themselves.If Brexit makes the people of Britain starve,Unionists will be happy to starve with them to prove they are equally British.

You must not have actually read the article. The blogger in question is not fantasising about a United Ireland, in fact he is an Alliance party member, the party with which your own views are most closely aligned.

Of course the Unionists want to resist it but whatever chance they have had of attracting the middle ground will not have been helped with their behaviour of the last 18 months. They will always retain a significant minority of 'never never' voters who they can rely on by whipping up fear, hate and paranoia but the tide has turned dramatically in a short space of time since Brexit. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 07:36:22 PM »
This latest choreographed tactic of blaming the Irish government because the British government told them that they prevented the DUP from seeing the text is diversionary tactics. The only surprise is that they haven't somehow tried to blame Sinn Fein as well!

She scuppered a deal that had the potential to be a game changer for the northern economy over a fleg. Now that they are back to the forefront dominating British politics they feel they are in their rightful place again. Supremacists to the core

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:59:54 PM »
Before you all get sticking th boot into benny I can clearly recall when all the hard men chat on here was f**k the eu, ecb, Von rompuy etc etc they put us into this bailout, its their fault a semi detached house on a flood plain in Athlone was worth 880,000 Euro.

Id find the sudden change of heart amongst the populists funny if it wasnt so damn pathetic.

You may find it funny or pathetic. I find it a good example of grown up people being able to think in terms other than white hats good, black hats bad. Grown ups know that we were gang-raped by Germany and the ECB. But no process of reasoning would lead them to respond by leaving the EU and thereby impoverishing ourselves by hitching our economic wagon to a nineteenth-century horse and buggy economy that is about to shoot its horse.

Where has being in the EU got Ireland? Two treaties enforced, dictated to on what they must/can't do, massive bailout to be paid off for years to come, flocks of nationalities driving down wages and leading to stresses on hospitals housing etc. Thousands of Irish left for work. Many have lost their homes, now growing homelessness, pay cuts, education/health/benefit cuts etc etc. If that is the situation after bowing to Europe, then God help Ireland.

Ah but sure the EU gave us money for a couple of motorways, so it's all grand.

This is the sort of ill founded insular rhetoric that got the UK into the current Brexit clusterfcuk that it presently finds itself. Scaremongering and playing on old ill conceived prejudices with no semblance of a clearly defined alternative plan.

Well, was any of that post incorrect?

Come on Benny, its not a black and white world. Take the blinkers off. It sounds like you're just looking for an argument and I don't have the energy to get into one with someone taking such a ludicrous viewpoint.

 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:29:00 PM »
Before you all get sticking th boot into benny I can clearly recall when all the hard men chat on here was f**k the eu, ecb, Von rompuy etc etc they put us into this bailout, its their fault a semi detached house on a flood plain in Athlone was worth 880,000 Euro.

Id find the sudden change of heart amongst the populists funny if it wasnt so damn pathetic.

You may find it funny or pathetic. I find it a good example of grown up people being able to think in terms other than white hats good, black hats bad. Grown ups know that we were gang-raped by Germany and the ECB. But no process of reasoning would lead them to respond by leaving the EU and thereby impoverishing ourselves by hitching our economic wagon to a nineteenth-century horse and buggy economy that is about to shoot its horse.

Where has being in the EU got Ireland? Two treaties enforced, dictated to on what they must/can't do, massive bailout to be paid off for years to come, flocks of nationalities driving down wages and leading to stresses on hospitals housing etc. Thousands of Irish left for work. Many have lost their homes, now growing homelessness, pay cuts, education/health/benefit cuts etc etc. If that is the situation after bowing to Europe, then God help Ireland.

Ah but sure the EU gave us money for a couple of motorways, so it's all grand.

This is the sort of ill founded insular rhetoric that got the UK into the current Brexit clusterfcuk that it presently finds itself. Scaremongering and playing on old ill conceived prejudices with no semblance of a clearly defined alternative plan.   

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:12:46 PM »
So in the space of 24 hours the DUP have managed to scupper a good deal for both Irish economies, forced Teresa May to dance to their tune, belittle and scold Leo Varadkar and then in the house of commons today Dodds forced David Davis to bow down to their wishes. This from a party that has a sum total of 10 seats. It really is the tail wagging the dog but they have an undeniable swagger and air of supremacy about them again. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:43:21 PM »
Benny, you should never let the facts get in the way of an irrational rant. This particular thread is full of plenty of wind up opinions which are often best ignored but I believe that you are actually serious which is even more worrying. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 05, 2017, 12:26:48 PM »
Then you have Edwin Poots condescendingly referring to Varadkar as 'Little Leo'. Dominate, obfuscate, humiliate and cheer from the rooftops after another small minded pyrrhic victory for the DUP.

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