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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: November 15, 2017, 01:52:08 PM »
Too much whinging about the initial assessment instead of actually focussing on why it failed. There was a forlorn hope that our penchant for the brown envelope might see us yet go close but we were embarrassingly defeated in the end.

GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: November 10, 2017, 10:26:35 PM »
I thought that Brendan Crossan had a very good article in today's Irish News about how it was bestowing nationalists/republicans to reflect for a minute themselves and ask if they would have reacted any differently. I would concur with his view and Creggan were unfortunate in that the same situation would undoubtedly have occurred at dozens of clubs throughout the province. The original article from Brolly was brave and he knew full well he would get plenty of flak over his defence of Heffron. On a human level you would want to be totally heartless not to feel sympathy for him and his daily suffering. Even in the reaction to his plight, plenty of republicans have more or less shown a complete apathy to his situation. To be alienated and isolated by your own people must be the worst feeling in the world. Yes, he knew the fragility of the situation he was stepping into but thar doesn't excuse the complete futility of that bomb.

GAA Discussion / Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
« on: November 08, 2017, 05:00:10 PM »
Livestock? Don't make me laugh. Such a sweeping generalisation. To bracket a corner back from Leitrim in the same category as a multiple AI winner and All Star is ludicrous. You might have a case saying that the Leitrim corner back gets relatively little in return for the sacrifice he puts in. The likes of Gooch though has done and will continue to do well due to his profile as a top GAA player. That is only as it should be, but don't pretend that poor Gooch was treated shabbily by the GAA, he wasn't. Privately I think the O'Se's would not have been happy with his blatant money grab and it's no co-incidence that this event is taking place so soon after Cooper's only highlighting his greed moreso.

GAA Discussion / Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
« on: November 07, 2017, 11:21:08 AM »
Apparently it turns out both his club and the kerry county board are not getting any of the money. Will this meam more money for the charities or will it be additional funds for the gooch to trouser away. Normally there are formal cheque presentations where charities benefit but I suspect we might not see that in this instance since it would be too transaprent what the gooch got for himself then.

General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 05, 2017, 07:04:08 PM »
How has he been disrespectful wobbler?

For a city that has produced its fair share of sportsmen and woman I can't think of too many to be prouder of.  Some of things he has done for the people and the community here are amazing.  Has never forgotten where he has came from and gives a hell of a lot back.  All done away from the glare of media and attention.  But sure have pot shots at him for his stance on the poppy.  Anybody with a half a brain can understand his views and actions given where hes from.  I dont think it's something he should be derided for, the opposite in fact.  If thats not your opinion  fair enough, but there are many more attributes to his character that deserve attention, and I dont see those same countrymen of his that criticise him ever mentioning that.

I don’t ignore it.

But with McClean and his strong opinions, I always find myself returning to a base point that he has, through his own choice, spent his entire adult life working in England.

There are plenty of ways to maintain your cultural identity when living in another country. His is the militant sort. And as mentioned a few posts back, if a foreigner in this country behaved in a similar way he would be similarly reviled. Surely anyone with “half a brain” can work this out?

Sweet Jesus, if refusing to wear a poppy is considered militant then I give up. Maybe he should just sheepishly abandon his principles. Instead he has not forgot his roots when the easy option would be to go with the flow. Have heard how McClean regularly supports local charities with big cash donations. He might be a bit daft and pig headed but I admire his free thinking in a profession where players excel in blandness.

GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: November 05, 2017, 12:01:12 PM »
Brolly sets the news/sports agenda for the week and now a few other opportunists have rowed in with their tuppence worth to try and make political capital out of it. This was an incident that happened over 7 years ago and the climate has changed since then. This doesn't appear to be a black and white issue as Brolly and others are trying to portray it. A GAA club can't be held reposnsible for individual actions of their members, any club will have a diverse range of opinions so I think its a bit unfair on the Creggan club to take this on the chin. Would many otehr clubs have had a dissimilar reaction. I can understand the anger of Heffron though and it's a sad situation when he felt the betrayal of his own people. It was a powerful interview and definitely made you think of how you might have reacted in the same situation or would you have just sat it out. I'd say there plenty of guilty consciences after reading that interview so if there is any positive to take out of the interview maybe it is just that.     

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2017
« on: November 02, 2017, 12:50:10 PM »
If Slaughtneill do win the Ulster title this year they will have earned it. They had the draw from hell. 

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2017
« on: November 01, 2017, 01:19:19 PM »
The draw is very lopsided this year. The real Ulster Final is the match between Slaughtneill and Kilcar. The extra weeks rest will help Slaughtneill after a gruelling period for duel players. They are a bit more streetwise and mechanical than Kilcar who probably have more individual talent and flair. Slaughtneill are dogs of war though with an excellent defensive system and they suit winter football. I don't expect a classic match by any means but I would still expect Slaughtneill to edge a tight match. The other match should be a bit more open and it could go either way but I'd marginally favour Cavan Gaels who have a lot of experienced players.   

General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: October 31, 2017, 04:23:02 PM »
In general the poppy is meant to be a symbol of peace and sadness that war has caused death. they are sold to collect money to help people who have been bereaved by these conflicts.

All good so far except that the story doesn't end there. It is quite clear that it is now used as a symbol of vitriol. It is a marker not of sadness at all conflict death but a glorifying of victories and the glory of battle itself. If we say all conflicts are sad and regrettable then how can the poppy and poppy day be used to glorify the military effort? It has become a pseudo glorification not condemnation of war.

Also it has become a defacto symbol of everything it should be opposed to. To refuse to wear one means being treated with disgust by our media. When the fact that the poppy exists should be only justified in allowing freedom as a result of the bloodshed instead of allowing only the freedom to do exactly as the bullies tell you (kinda sounds like the very thing that was being fought).

In principle I think it is fair to say - You may be right, but I will only agree with you when you stop saying I am not allowed to choose anything other than agreeing with you.

As for closer to home. No English, Scots, or Welsh villages suffered British Soldiers harassing and abusing the residents let alone shooting them.  If it were truly a symbol of peace not selfish self-righteousness then the poppy sellers would all universally condemn the atrocities of the British Army in Northern Ireland and agree it is an inappropriate symbol for us. After all they don't insist on the Germans wearing them...

Excellent post.

General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:03:17 PM »
How did they justify giving NZ the world cup in 2011 when some of their venues had grassy banks for spectators on either side of the pitch? 

General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:01:09 PM »
I had got the previous impression that the Ireland bid was going to be the winning bid from most commentators in the media. However it was mostly Irish pundits that were putting across such a view so maybe they were just completely blinkered. The bottom line is that money talks and South Africa were putting up an extra €40m so they could dress up the report whatever way they want to justify choosing South Africa. Personally I'm not overly bothered whether it came to Ireland or not although it would have been good for the economy and also good to host a world event on an all island basis.   

Horrible stuff from St Vincents in particular and they will argue that the end justified the means. It was a brutal spectacle for what was effectively the Leinster club final. 

General discussion / Re: Dirua
« on: October 19, 2017, 11:42:22 PM »
Am I right in thinking that somebody (Drici) actually goes to the bother of updating the exchange rate onto a GAA website on a daily basis. Surely there are specific foreign exchange sites that have this information in real time if someone wants to check this.

GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: October 18, 2017, 08:20:00 PM »
Has Parkinson ever held down a job outside of the GAA. Parkinson I'd say is good craic but definitely not an analyst to be taken too seriously. He has surfed the wave of a minor AI win about 20 years ago and appears to be still riding it since. A wind up merchant who know's how to play the game of keeping himself relevant.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: October 18, 2017, 12:18:02 PM »
Varadkar is all PR and image, but his latest comments are very disconcerting for nationalists in the north. Moving the goalposts from what was signed up for in the GFA. Does he not even see the irony of the fact that an artificial majority was created when drawing up boundaries to split the state to ensure this 50+1 unionist majority. Now he realises that the gap is narrowing he is attempting to suggest that the majority needed should be more than this. Just a typical Fine Gael me me, I'm alright jack attitude. 

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