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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 16, 2018, 12:16:24 AM »
the unionist played a blinder by taking to Mr Black to RTE to pour his heart out. SF & Barry knew that once this happened that he had no other choice but to step down as it would do more harm in the south than up here. Isn't it a turn of events that the unionists are now running more to the southern media than there very own BBC. Mr Black has been very well staged managed by whoever is pulling the strings for unionism.

Very true, this. Unionists like Donaldson and Paisley have often opted to use RTE media whenever it suits them to get their message across. No coincidence that Alan Black found his way onto RTE to try and damage SF in the southern media. Bizzarely I feel that the unionists would have preferred if McElduff had remained in his post so that they could continue to use this as a stick to beat SF with.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 15, 2018, 05:48:40 PM »
Martial is probably only behind Pogba and De Gea in terms of ability even if he hasn't totally fulfilled that potential yet so no chance that he is going anywhere.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 15, 2018, 05:27:37 PM »
The result from the GE in June:

Barry McElduff (SF)            22,060        50.7%
Thomas Buchanan (DUP)    11,718        26.9%
Daniel McCrossan (SDLP)     5,635         13.0%
Alicia Clarke (UUP)              2,253          5.2%   
Stephen Donnelly (All)        1,000           2.3%
Ciaran McClean (Green)         427           1.0%
Barry Brown (CISTA)             393           0.9%

Majority                            10,342        23.8%

Turnout                            43,675        68.2%

On these figures it would take something earth shattering for SF to lose this seat.  McElduff got more than 50% of the vote.

What would happen if the candidate was to be a victim of the Omagh bomb running on a respect/reconciliation ticket? 

The SF vote maxed out in 2017, while in WT many voters opposed to SF no longer vote as it is pointless on a split vote trying to have their preferred candidate elected, only core non-SF voters turn out. 

There is plenty of scope to increase the non-SF vote if there was a prospect of sending a strong message to the politicians that the sectarian nonsense has no future. Someone like Stanley McComb would be capable of drawing a considerable non-partisan vote and would highlight the case for the victims of the Omagh bomb in their campaign for a proper inquiry.

Like West Belfast, West Tyrone has gained nothing from its SF representation in government in Belfast and elected to Westminster.  It has lost the acute hospital to FST and the A5 will begin at the other end in Foyle instead of an extension to the A4 dual carriageway (another serious accident at Garvaghy on Saturday night) due to decisions by SF ministers seeking party votes in other constituencies.  No new employment to replace the downgrading of the lost civil service jobs and at the Education Authority.  Yet SF supporters continue to return representatives every time, strange.


Do you have any facts to back any of this up?

The loss of the hospital and the change in the building of the A5 are facts.  Decisions taken by SF ministers are facts.  No new employment brought to replace jobs taken away by DUP-SF government by borrowing money to make people redundant are facts.  EA downgrading of WELB employment in Omagh a decision taken by SF minister is a fact.  SF supporters voting in SF candidates every time despite gaining nothing in terms of jobs or roads to the West and losing health facilities is a fact. Highest votes achieved in an election by SF in WT in 2017 elections is a fact.  Speaking to others who live in the constituency who do not support SF they are despondent at the lack of progress in health and employment and many tel me they no longer see a point of voting, others say they vote to stop their vote being stolen, that a fact.

Stanley McComb or another similar person of integrity standing in election against SF as a victims representative would beat SF, that's my opinion.

I'll have some of whatever your smoking.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:15:30 AM »
Ultimately the correct decision, I think he should have done it a week ago but at least it show's some level of accountability for his actions. It sends a message out that certain standards are expected of public representatives and negates any accusations of hypocrisy. For the Sinn Fein bashers it will probably still not be enough though. 

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General discussion / Re: Off the Ball v Second Captains - So Who Won?
« on: January 11, 2018, 11:28:35 AM »
Molloy is excellent, best sports presenter around and Gilroy is also very good.

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General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
« on: January 10, 2018, 11:50:56 PM »
Sean Spicer to appear on the show on Friday. Pity they couldn't have a tough interviewer like Browne or Cooper wheeled in to doi T rather than the fluff from Tubs the children's tv presenter.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 09, 2018, 02:32:39 PM »
Just remember. Barry McElduff wasn’t mocking anyone. He was making fun of himself. It is not against the law for an elected representative to have a bit of fun. His voters seem to like it. He tops the poll in every election he participates in and is known for his 24 hour service to his constituents. What is utterly sickening about this is the kicking he received from fellow politicians who know him, know his anti sectarian principles and know he meant absolutely nothing to do with Kingsmills when he put that loaf of bread on his head. There was no rational or logical advantage for him to gain by mocking the victims of a sectarian outrage that even horrified senior IRA figures and happened during a ceasefire. But the poor victims and relatives were the last thing on the minds of those who decided that this would be a great piece of moral high ground to bash him around the place.

Maybe he wasn't however if he wasn't mocking then it doesn't say much for his level of intelligence. Either way he should have done the decent thing and resigned the position himself.

The standard of politician in the north is very poor, too many politicians more concerned about their social media profile and treating it as a career than actually serving the people.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:30:49 PM »
McElduff can actually give his party the high moral ground here by resigning which would be a big statement that they are serious about respect across the board and show that there is a bit of decency. Considering his apology and subsequent offer to meet the families, I don't believe it was a deliberately malicious act but it was an idiotic thing to do and he would be best doing the right thing for his party and for nationalists/republican's in general and that mean's stepping down.

It would negate any accusations of hypocrisy when SF call on Foster et al to resign. Frampton should stick to the boxing instead of weighing into this debate.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 06, 2018, 09:34:30 PM »
He embarrassed all nationalists/republicans with his idiotic video. Let's not be hypocrites, if this was Poots, Wilson or Campbell we'd be rightly up in arms. The sensible decision in the interest of the party would be for him to step aside. Will he? Probably not.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 06, 2018, 12:06:00 AM »
Have really warmed to Lingard this season where previously I wasn't convinced that he was anything more than a squad player. This was another game which looked like petering out into a draw until he broke the deadlock with another good goal. He has now become a really important player for the club with a great attitude.

As for Mourinho and Conte firing off verbal insults, it's childish and embarrassing, like 14 year old schoolboys down the back of the bus calling each other names.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 03, 2018, 12:35:06 PM »
A bit like Taylor in the darts, the one thing that Mourinho will never have is any class. He wants everyone to dance to his tune but when they give an honest opinion (in the case of a club legend like Scholes) he tries to humiliate them by boasting of his own medals. It was actually embarrassing stuff.

He is right to call scholes out.

I actually think he's a moron now despite being one of Utds best ever players. At least Gary Neville (and phil) offers some insight and constructive criticism; despite failing at management in Valencia (personally though I don't think anyone else could have done better due to the internal politics).

Trying to hard to best Keane. At least Keane has tried his hand at management and had some moderate success plus plenty of failure. It gives him plenty of insight. Scholes needs to be consigned to the history books.

If he wanted to criticise his punditry then fair enough but it was the manner of how he chose to do it. You have to put it into context, Mourinho tried to belittle and humiliate a club legend by insinuating that he criticised Pogba because he was jealous of his wages, added in a boast about all the trophies he had won and then got a dig in about why none of the ex players had got coaching jobs in the club. If he set out to belittle and make a little boy out of Scholes then it worked and I don't see how it benefits the club to have all of this sledging going on in public. Scholes has done more for the club and deserves more respect than a narcissist like Mourinho who has a long history for picking battles and sensing paranoia where none exists.

I don't think Scholes is a particularly great pundit in terms of analysis but I do think he is giving an honest opinion and if it helps get a reaction in the case of Pogba then what he actually said had some effect on the outcome. Mourinho played him in his best position against Everton, Pogba was arguably the best player on the pitch and everybody should be happy.

However we are now left talking about this spat between pundits and management again, it's an unnecessary soap opera that Mourinho loves to create. I've stopped listening to Mourinho press conference's because they are often miserable, tetchy affairs but it's hard to avoid reading about them afterwards.   

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 02, 2018, 09:12:11 PM »
A bit like Taylor in the darts, the one thing that Mourinho will never have is any class. He wants everyone to dance to his tune but when they give an honest opinion (in the case of a club legend like Scholes) he tries to humiliate them by boasting of his own medals. It was actually embarrassing stuff.

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General discussion / Re: PDC Premier League of Darts
« on: January 01, 2018, 11:05:41 PM »
If it had've been MVG there he wouldn't stood for the nonsense. Taylor supposedly tried his mind games & slabbering with MVG a few years back and MVG is meant to have told him 'shut up knob'😀

It was during the Grand Slam of darts a few months back, he tried his gamesmanship during a break in play and MVG told him where to go. Cross was like a lion during the match and wasn't intimidated one bit but let Taylor take centre stage after it so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Taylor had words.

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General discussion / Re: PDC Premier League of Darts
« on: January 01, 2018, 10:31:57 PM »
Even in defeat it was Taylor's night!  8)

Both he and Sky made sure of that. Made it all about Taylor post match and Cross was nearly apologising for having beaten him. Wouldn't be surprised if Taylor told him not to celebrate so that he could soak up the acclaim because the lack of emotion from Cross was bizarre for a first time winner.

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General discussion / Re: PDC Premier League of Darts
« on: January 01, 2018, 09:45:05 PM »
Cross has played brilliantly, has very similar playing style and celebrations to MVG and it will be some battle with those 2 next season. Taylor has been soundly beaten and not sorry to see him thrashed.

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