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Did Cork field 6 subs a few years aback against Limerick in a Munster final and the GAA come out with something along the lines of, although Cork have violated a rule, there is no sanction for this violation and they have therefore been warned as to there future conduct

blood subs?

That's what I was thinking.

Am i right in thinking that no blood is actually required to introduce a blood sub, just some kind of injury that doesnt need to be proven and the player coming on can continue to be counted as a blood sub for the rest of the match?

Extended highlights available here http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Armagh-2-14-Kildare-2-08.aspx

Im in too but will need to change my time as its rubbish.  Also link at the top didnt work for me I had to drop the www.

I would have thought it had to opposite effect as I was of the understanding the two bodies were traveling in opposite direction when they hit (I have on seen a 3d rendering of the accident).  Assuming of course it was a straight on collision. Also that calculation isnt for the force of the impact just the kinetic energy of the spring at point mass hit it

I read the spring was supposed to be traveling at 160 mph. Ignoring the fact Massa was traveling in the opposite direction, the kinetic energy of the spring would have been in or around 2000 kg per metre squared per second squared (1/2 mass x the velocity squared or 1/2 * 0.8 x ([160*1.6*1000]/60/60)^2 which I believe from memory is a Joule.  Therefore the kinetic energy of the spring at the point of impact was approximately 2000 joules.  Thats I believe about 4 times a 9mm bullet at point blank range.  He is lucky to survive and thats with out even considering the relative force of the crash and the momentum.

Please note I havent done any physics in about 3 years and am open to correction on this.

Heard on the radio last night the car park was opening at 7am but the store wasnt opening till 11am and that motorists were being told to avoid the area.  Would Ikea really have such a draw given that theres one 90 minutes away and given the current economic climate

You do Dublin to the far side of Belfast in 90 minutes?!

Yes, without that much difficulty although it really depends on the time you hit Newry and the Westlink

I'm not taking the p*ss but what was there about McDonnells tactics to leak?   Was he not rather predictable?

I don't think thats the point.

He named a 'fake team' shall we say for the paper on the Thursday before the Monaghan game and we would have all thought that was the team for the game had the actual team not been posted on this board on the previous Wednesday night.

Obviously there was a leak from within the team which was clearly undermining McDonnell. This leak was outed momentarily on Orchard County.

Nothing to do with the Armagh situation, but what is this obsession wiith managers naming dud teams on a Thursday and then think they are pulling a fast one by naming a different starting team. International rugby have a process of naming their teams in mid week and to it religiously unless there is an injury. Either stop this ridiculous process of naming teams in the press midweek or introduce a rule stating that the team named has to be genuine. After all, it us the paying public that are having to swallow this load of crap that they dish out to us.

I thought county boards were fined if the team in the programme was different to that which started?

Heard on the radio last night the car park was opening at 7am but the store wasnt opening till 11am and that motorists were being told to avoid the area.  Would Ikea really have such a draw given that theres one 90 minutes away and given the current economic climate

David McKeown must be a first year law student... at Jordanstown. 

Worryingly I am a little more qualified than that.  I should have realised a long time ago to stop trying to second guess juries.  Well fair play to the defence team they must have been able to show that immediate fear of violence was there and/or that little weight could be placed on the cctv footage.

The problem with a self defence argument is that to relay on it Gerrard has to show an immediate fear of violence. That's very hard to prove when the guy appears to be doubled over before Gerrard appears to punch him. Hard to establish an immediate fear at the point especially if your in a group of mates

Realistically, if he is found guilty what can he expect?

It's a bit early to say a lot will depend on factors such as previous record, liklihood to reoffend etc.  Here we have pre sentence reports which really dictate the sentence. They aren't as a common in England. My gut feeling is either a short custodial sentence or a suspended sentence

Indeed, not much doubt on that clearer image, although not concrete either so he will probably get a bit of community service.

I'd be surprised at that the legislation seams to suggest that on a contest the minimum sentence is custodial. The other thing is if Gerard is convicted of affray then he is as guilty of the elbow as the man who through it.

The thing about the affray charge is if the prosecution can show that Gerard used or threatened to use any unlawful violence which would make any normal person fear for their safety then he is guilty of affray.  The problem though is if that if even a single punch being thrown by Gerrard  (not in self defence) can be proven then the actions of all the others in the fight are considered in other words, if Gerrard has even a tiny role in the actual violence, it wont matter, as the jury will have to consider whether or not the actions of all the fighters were such as to make a normal person fear for their safety.

Now given that Gerard apparently admitted at interview that he threw at least one connecting punch then his defence is likely to be one of the following.  Either a it was self defence or b the incident would not have made any normal person fear for their safety.  Id imagine its more likely to be a.  Jury trials are strange things so its hard to know how this one will go

Does ss3 not come as standard when you get either ss1 or ss2?  I have the whole package as the sports are the only thing I watch and find it great.  Although I dont get Sky Sports News which I would watch most often and have to switch to freeview (although I believe that SSN becomes part of the package next month)