FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by CĂșig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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Feckitt

What would the attendance be at that Sligo game today?

ballinaman


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Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.
Don't forget that there are  some people who have a rationale based hatred of the man.

I'm okay with Keane being under the tutelage of MON. He's emotionally immature, still has a lot learn  re managing players, and regardless of what MON has to offer to the team  from a coaching perspective, he's a character that demands respect and not even Roy Keane can go within a country mile of impacting negatively on that.
But as an assistant to the manager I would be disturbed at the figures being speculated as to what Keane will be paid, some Eur. 700k p/a.







rodney trotter

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It was good for Keane to be given a No 2 role, as that was as good as he as he was going to get at present with Ireland. He can learn from an experienced manager like O Neill.
Keane walked out of the job at Sunderland when results started to go bad and was sacked at Ipswich, with players relieved he was gone. Hopefully O Neill and Keane can work well together and no fck ups with players over communication about not being in the squad ,like what happened with the previous management.

anglocelt39

Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.



Well I don't fall into either category Muppet so let's continue:

1. Why does Martin O Neill need a "high profile" 2ic to "assist him in his job as Ireland Coach?

2. Our Roy has been out of work now for, what is it again, 2 years and 10 months. So is it safe to assume he has been turning down positions in the knowledge that the plum job of 2IC to the new Irish gaffer had his  name on it?

3. Summed up nicely in the Sunday Times today, you can imagine the players man Roy acting as emissary on behalf of Robbie Brady/Shane Long/Stephen Ireland to the fearsome MON to advise that their hotel beds aren't as comfortable as expected. FAI are seriously broke and the Roy show will at least guarantee a full house at the up coming friendly so thats the financial side sorted out in the short term at any rate.

Will sell a few seats in the short term, surprised at MON allowing himself to be involved in such a circus but wait, if it goes pear shaped sure how could he operate in such a mad set up..............................

Undefeated at the Polo Grounds

laoislad

Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Or you could say there are some who have an irrational love of the man and there are some who don't.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

muppet

Quote from: laoislad on November 03, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Or you could say there are some who have an irrational love of the man and there are some who don't.

This would be the line of one with the irrational hated. Anyone else who doesn't share the irrational hated, obviously then 'loves' the man.
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muppet

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 03, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.



Well I don't fall into either category Muppet so let's continue:

1. Why does Martin O Neill need a "high profile" 2ic to "assist him in his job as Ireland Coach?

Ask Martin O'Neill, it was his idea.

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2. Our Roy has been out of work now for, what is it again, 2 years and 10 months. So is it safe to assume he has been turning down positions in the knowledge that the plum job of 2IC to the new Irish gaffer had his  name on it?

He hasn't been 'out of work'. Making stuff up would be heading towards the irrational.

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3. Summed up nicely in the Sunday Times today, you can imagine the players man Roy acting as emissary on behalf of Robbie Brady/Shane Long/Stephen Ireland to the fearsome MON to advise that their hotel beds aren't as comfortable as expected. FAI are seriously broke and the Roy show will at least guarantee a full house at the up coming friendly so thats the financial side sorted out in the short term at any rate.

Are you saying the players wouldn't play for Roy or for 'the fearsome MON'? I have little time for the likes of Stephen Ireland personally and don't see him as a loss. It is hard to see what your point is here. Other than maybe a full house would suggest there are people who will be excited about the appointment.
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Will sell a few seats in the short term, surprised at MON allowing himself to be involved in such a circus but wait, if it goes pear shaped sure how could he operate in such a mad set up..............................

If it goes pear-shaped it will be on MON's head, among others.
MWWSI 2017

laoislad

Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 03, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 02, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.



You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Or you could say there are some who have an irrational love of the man and there are some who don't.

This would be the line of one with the irrational hated. Anyone else who doesn't share the irrational hated, obviously then 'loves' the man.

If you say so.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

anglocelt39

Ah so in the new gospel according to Roy punditry now constitutes gainful employment eh? Christ maybe he is capable of further reinventing himself so.

Lets try again so Muppet and I hope you can find time in your hectic schedule to respond, what exactly does Roy bring to the party as a second in command to MON (good god its a sad reflection in how Roys stock has plummeted even typing that) that some less high profile dude with 100 tonnes less baggage would not bring. After all he is going to be MON's gofer, isn't that correct?

Jesus the more you think of it the more bizarre it becomes, even by the FAI/Delaney's donkeys standards.
Undefeated at the Polo Grounds

muppet

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 03, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
Ah so in the new gospel according to Roy punditry now constitutes gainful employment eh? Christ maybe he is capable of further reinventing himself so.

Of course it is gainful employment. Do you think he does it for free, and for the fun?

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Lets try again so Muppet and I hope you can find time in your hectic schedule to respond, what exactly does Roy bring to the party as a second in command to MON (good god its a sad reflection in how Roys stock has plummeted even typing that) that some less high profile dude with 100 tonnes less baggage would not bring. After all he is going to be MON's gofer, isn't that correct?

Jesus the more you think of it the more bizarre it becomes, even by the FAI/Delaney's donkeys standards.

The bit in bold, why do you write such patronising shite? It does't add to your argument in any way.

As for the rest, why ask me? Ask Martin O'Neill, it was his idea.
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laoislad

I can't wait to see Keano going ape shit at the Aviva some night when we're 3 down against Holland and the fans are still singing.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

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Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

muppet

Quote from: laoislad on November 03, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
I can't wait to see Keano going ape shit at the Aviva some night when we're 3 down against Holland and the fans are still singing.

You must have been orgasmic when we were being jockeyed during the 2012 Euros.
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